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freddyg12 08-13-2009 01:25 PM

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I don't know about this. It sounded like to me that Stallworth could've gotten off on the manslaughter & only been faced w/dui. In which case his sentence would have been lighter, much less house arrest.

I disagree w/those that say he got off easy w/the plea. He made the deal to save he & the family from going through a trial. He's been up front & contrite from the beginning.

Ultimately, goodell has set a seriously high bar on the conduct policy. He just suspended a man that's on house arrest. I could agree w/even an 8 game suspension, a year seems awful extreme.

Is he suspended in part because of the manslaughter? i.e. if he had been found not guilty of that charge & only dui would the suspension be a year? If not, then the conduct policy is basically punishing Stallworth for reaching a quick & agreeable (w/the state & the victim's family) solution.

Skinny Tee 08-13-2009 02:36 PM

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[quote=freddyg12;575149]I don't know about this. It sounded like to me that Stallworth could've gotten off on the manslaughter & only been faced w/dui. In which case his sentence would have been lighter, much less house arrest.

I disagree w/those that say he got off easy w/the plea. He made the deal to save he & the family from going through a trial. He's been up front & contrite from the beginning.

Ultimately, goodell has set a seriously high bar on the conduct policy. He just suspended a man that's on house arrest. I could agree w/even an 8 game suspension, a year seems awful extreme.

Is he suspended in part because of the manslaughter? i.e. if he had been found not guilty of that charge & only dui would the suspension be a year? If not, then the conduct policy is basically punishing Stallworth for reaching a quick & agreeable (w/the state & the victim's family) solution.[/quote]

Yeah from what I heard Stallworth wasn't entirely at fault and they could have reduced the charge in his favor.

I think a year suspended is a little much. I feel terribly for the deceased family but it seems like the guy illegally crossed where he shouldn't have. No death is deserved there and I think Stallworth isn't entirely to blame.

Year suspension is steep for something that didn't yield jail time. Funny, it's like the exact opposite situation of the Vick scandal. Stallworth killed a human, served no time, but is suspended for a whole year. Vick brutally kills animals, serves 1.5yrs, and his suspension is time served.

...Strange relation there.

SmootSmack 08-13-2009 02:43 PM

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Stallworth had also already been in the NFL's substance abuse program once before, which didn't help his cause

FRPLG 08-13-2009 02:56 PM

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[quote=firstdown;575165]I thought he served like 20 some days in jail.[/quote]

30 and time off brought it down to 23 maybe.

ArtMonkDrillz 08-13-2009 02:59 PM

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[quote=Skinny Tee;575160]Yeah from what I heard Stallworth wasn't entirely at fault and they could have reduced the charge in his favor.

I think a year suspended is a little much. I feel terribly for the deceased family but it seems like the guy illegally crossed where he shouldn't have. No death is deserved there and I think Stallworth isn't entirely to blame.

Year suspension is steep for something that didn't yield jail time. Funny, it's like the exact opposite situation of the Vick scandal. Stallworth killed a human, served no time, but is suspended for a whole year. [B]Vick brutally kills animals, serves 1.5yrs, and his suspension is time served.[/B]

...Strange relation there.[/quote]Vick got time served because he was in federal prison plus the 4 games this year, and we have no way of knowing how long he would have been suspended had his prison sentence not interrupted those two football seasons. I think that if Stallworth had been sentenced to a year in prison (say from August 2009 - July 2010) he'd probably still be looking at a suspension for all of the 2010 season. But he only have to serve 20+ days in jail during the off-season so we'll never really know.

CRedskinsRule 08-13-2009 03:05 PM

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Stallworth still has 2 years house arrest. this suspension just makes it official, but he wasn't playing anyway.

freddyg12 08-13-2009 03:10 PM

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[quote=SmootSmack;575162]Stallworth had also already been in the NFL's substance abuse program once before, which didn't help his cause[/quote]

good point, forgot about that. He was suspended before wasn't he?

dmek25 08-13-2009 03:20 PM

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he was legally drunk at the time of the accident. the man WALKED in front of him. Stallworth is guilty of using piss poor judgement. should he penalized more? that's not my call. but i do smell a law suit coming. he is not the first bad boy in the N.F.L and most of the law is based on precedent. didnt Little of the Rams do pretty much the same thing? i think the code of conduct has been in the league for ever.

The Trigga 08-13-2009 03:21 PM

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Lol he should still be in frickin prison

GhettoDogAllStars 08-13-2009 03:33 PM

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;575174]Stallworth still has 2 years house arrest. this suspension just makes it official, but he wasn't playing anyway.[/quote]

Yeah, but he might have been able to go to work. People on house arrest are regularly allowed to do that, afaik.

I also read he has 8 years probation. Certainly not light, but given the fact that his actions resulted in the death of another person, it's hard to argue otherwise.

SmootSmack 08-13-2009 03:40 PM

Re: Stallworth suspended for the entire season
 
[quote=dmek25;575181]he was legally drunk at the time of the accident. the man WALKED in front of him. Stallworth is guilty of using piss poor judgement. should he penalized more? that's not my call. but i do smell a law suit coming. he is not the first bad boy in the N.F.L and most of the law is based on precedent. didnt Little of the Rams do pretty much the same thing? i think the code of conduct has been in the league for ever.[/quote]

Different commissioner when Little committed his crime. Goodell was especially cognizant of the belief that the league was way too light on Little and wasn't about to let that happen again

SmootSmack 08-13-2009 03:41 PM

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[quote=freddyg12;575178]good point, forgot about that. He was suspended before wasn't he?[/quote]

I don't remember. He was in a substance abuse program under orders by the league I believe.

dmek25 08-13-2009 04:00 PM

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[quote=SmootSmack;575194]Different commissioner when Little committed his crime. Goodell was especially cognizant of the belief that the league was way too light on Little and wasn't about to let that happen again[/quote]
i knew this. but the policy itself hasn't changed, has it?

FRPLG 08-13-2009 04:14 PM

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[quote=dmek25;575209]i knew this. but the policy itself hasn't changed, has it?[/quote]

The enforcement of it has. As it should be.


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