Run the 3-4 Anybody?
 

I think Blache is a great old school coach, and there is a lot to consider, but last year he said he'd be done after this year.

I don't think I would love anything more than for the FO to hire a really agressive up and coming D-coordinator to switch the front 7 to a 3-4. We have the personnel I think.
Orakpo- who's playing so far from his natural position as a 4-3 SAM linebacker
Jarmon- pass rusher
Carter
McIntosh
Fletcher
then for D-line: Haynesworth at NT, then you have Griffin, Alexander, Montgomery and Golston.

What are your thoughts? Who are potential candidates?

It's just something I thought about while sitting on my ass watching this G-Tech- Miami game.

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[quote=franklinhimself;590853]I think Blache is a great old school coach, and there is a lot to consider, but last year he said he'd be done after this year.

I don't think I would love anything more than for the FO to hire a really agressive up and coming D-coordinator to switch the front 7 to a 3-4. We have the personnel I think.
Orakpo- who's playing so far from his natural position as a 4-3 SAM linebacker
Jarmon- pass rusher
Carter
McIntosh
Fletcher
then for D-line: Haynesworth at NT, then you have Griffin, Alexander, Montgomery and Golston.

What are your thoughts? Who are potential candidates?

It's just something I thought about while sitting on my ass watching this G-Tech- Miami game.[/quote]

This was debated before, but it was before we got Haynesworth, I'll be curious to see what the debate would look like now that we have a big NT. The Packers seem to have made a good transition to the 3-4. I'm sure realistically any transition would happen in the offseason.

So do you think Miami is back? Or are GTech and FSU not that good?

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carter was a very average 3-4 lb in san fran. jarmon is not a linebacker in a 3-4.

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[quote=Ruhskins;590857]This was debated before, but it was before we got Haynesworth, I'll be curious to see what the debate would look like now that we have a big NT. The Packers seem to have made a good transition to the 3-4. I'm sure realistically any transition would happen in the offseason.

So do you think Miami is back? Or are GTech and FSU not that good?[/quote]

miami is definitely back. maybe not as a national title contender but they are going to be very good. its either them or us (VT) for the ACC this year imo.

Re: Run the 3-4 Anybody?
 

[quote=franklinhimself;590853]I think Blache is a great old school coach, and there is a lot to consider, but last year he said he'd be done after this year.

I don't think I would love anything more than for the FO to hire a really agressive up and coming D-coordinator to switch the front 7 to a 3-4. We have the personnel I think.
Orakpo- who's playing so far from his natural position as a 4-3 SAM linebacker
Jarmon- pass rusher
Carter
McIntosh
Fletcher
then for D-line: Haynesworth at NT, then you have Griffin, Alexander, Montgomery and Golston.

What are your thoughts? Who are potential candidates?

It's just something I thought about while sitting on my ass watching this G-Tech- Miami game.[/quote]

I don't think we have the personel for it. We don't have a pure NT, and we don't have 3-4 ends. We might be OK at LB though.

Re: Run the 3-4 Anybody?
 

[quote=skinsfan69;590860]I don't think we have the personel for it. We don't have a pure NT, and we don't have 3-4 ends. We might be OK at LB though.[/quote]

Even with AH? I mean when we just had Griff I could see that, but AH is huge. Granted, we would need more depth at NT b/c Griff wouldn't be a good NT.

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Miami's BACK!

Besides that though- we could acquire some depth for where we might b weak in terms of 3-4 personnel, but I think it's really possible. Yes, GB looks like they've done it successfully.

and if Haynesworth isn't a pure NT then i dunno who is.

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Why? Not enough LB's on the team and 4-3 is what the Skins D is built around.

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We're far from having the appropriate personnel to run a 3-4 defense. Even assuming big Al could make the transition is a stretch. That said there's much more we can do schematically to improve on our 4-3 base.

Best case scenario...Spags gets ripped apart as an HC and comes in to be our DC. Ok i don't know if that's legit but certainly there's gotta be someone who can "get more" from our guys on defense.

Re: Run the 3-4 Anybody?
 

[quote=The Goat;590867]We're far from having the appropriate personnel to run a 3-4 defense. Even assuming big Al could make the transition is a stretch. That said there's much more we can do schematically to improve on our 4-3 base.

Best case scenario...[B]Spags gets ripped apart as an HC and comes in to be our DC.[/B] Ok i don't know if that's legit but certainly there's gotta be someone who can "get more" from our guys on defense.[/quote]

TAMPERING! TAMPERING! Actually I'd be willing to give up a pick to get him. :)

Re: Run the 3-4 Anybody?
 

[quote=The Goat;590867]We're far from having the appropriate personnel to run a 3-4 defense. Even assuming big Al could make the transition is a stretch. That said there's much more we can do schematically to improve on our 4-3 base.

Best case scenario...Spags gets ripped apart as an HC and comes in to be our DC. Ok i don't know if that's legit but certainly there's gotta be someone who can "get more" from our guys on defense.[/quote]
Gregg Williams could get fired again

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Technically we play our 4-3 with 3-4 personnel. Two traditional linebackers (Fletcher and McIntosh), two outside rushers (Orakpo and Carter), and 3 interior lineman (Griffin, Haynesworth, and Daniels). However I don't think we should be running a 3-4. The way the personnel plays, (particularly Fletcher, Carter, and Haynesworth) is best suited to the 4-3.

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[quote=franklinhimself;590853]

I don't think I would love anything more than for the FO to hire a really agressive up and coming D-coordinator to switch the front 7 to a 3-4. We have the personnel I think.

What are your thoughts? Who are potential candidates?
[/quote]

I wish Blache was more aggressive in his schemes.
Is it the 3-4 you want or an aggressive blitz intense scheme?

Because there are plenty of 4-3 teams that are aggressive and dynamic.

But, to answer your question we could easily run a 3-4 and there are times when we were in 3-4 look.

If we were to run a 3-4 i would set it up like this:

Monty, yes monty at NT
Haynesworth DE
Daniels DE
Wilson OLB
Orakpo OLB
Fletcher ILB
Rocky ILB

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3-4 is all about having great linebackers, so it's viable only if McIntosh has a true breakout year. A DL of Haynesworth, Jarmon, and Lorenzo Alexander could run it, but outside of Orakpo, we just don't have the LBs right now.

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[quote=30gut;590878]I wish Blache was more aggressive in his schemes.
Is it the 3-4 you want or an aggressive blitz intense scheme?

Because there are plenty of 4-3 teams that are aggressive and dynamic.

But, to answer your question we could easily run a 3-4 and there are times when we were in 3-4 look.

If we were to run a 3-4 i would set it up like this:

Monty, yes monty at NT
Haynesworth DE
Daniels DE
Wilson OLB
Orakpo OLB
Fletcher ILB
Rocky ILB[/quote]

Yes thats exactly the same way I would run the 3-4. Haynesworth shouldn't be a NT, to anyone who thinks that. He should be a DE, cause he plays that sometimes in a 4-3 and is very adaptable. I would also consider playing lorenzo alexander at DE aswell, asuming that daniels won't be here next year.