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JWsleep 03-08-2004 02:26 PM

Portis is good
 
From Peter King's column today:

quote:
Sweet music to Washington fans' ears:

Clinton Portis, is his three seasons (one at the University of Miami and two with Denver) as a full-time starting running back in college or pro football, has averaged, per season, 5.5, 5.5 and 5.5 yards per carry.


He also rags on TO and argues that the Raven's deal must stand. Right on!
[URL]http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2004/writers/peter_king/03/05/mmqb/[/URL]

Ade Jimoh Fan Club 03-08-2004 02:30 PM

[QUOTE=JWsleep]Clinton Portis, is his three seasons (one at the University of Miami and two with Denver) as a full-time starting running back in college or pro football, has averaged, per season, 5.5, 5.5 and 5.5 yards per carry.
[/QUOTE]

Holy Crap! That is 16.5 yards per carry cumultively - that is Hall Of Fame material.

I can't wait to see him suit up!

Skins fan 44 03-08-2004 03:06 PM

Look forward to hearing Hail to the Redskins alot next year with him. We can only hope.

SkinsRock 03-08-2004 04:07 PM

OMG....King said something good concerning the Redskins?!?!?
:p

johnnyredskin63 03-08-2004 05:37 PM

[QUOTE=SkinsRock]OMG....King said something good concerning the Redskins?!?!?
:p[/QUOTE]
[COLOR=DarkRed]i bet it made his hemmoroids act up big time saying something good about the redskins.the only reason he said something bad about TO is because his lips are permantley attached to the asses of the forty niner big wigs,walsh and terry donahue.i still hate the guy,he's should take a laxative and hope it blows his brains out.[/COLOR]

Riggo44 03-08-2004 07:51 PM

I can't wait for Portis to break of his frist 60+ yrd run. So long Bailey!

Scott 03-08-2004 07:54 PM

I too am excited at the prospect of Portis, but does anybody have a number as far as average carries per game on this guy? I suspect Gibbs will be banging him 20-25 carries a game, is he durable?

SmootSmack 03-08-2004 08:03 PM

Portis had 290 carries in 13 games last year, a little over 22 per game. Plus he averaged 3 catches a game

joecrisp 03-08-2004 08:53 PM

[QUOTE=Scott]I too am excited at the prospect of Portis, but does anybody have a number as far as average carries per game on this guy? I suspect Gibbs will be banging him 20-25 carries a game, is he durable?[/QUOTE]
With 29 games played, Portis has 563 carries for 3099 yards, which comes out to an average of [b]19.4 carries per game[/b], for an average of 5.5 yards per carry.

Keep in mind, however, that of those 29 games, Portis has started only 25 of them. The games he did not start were in the first four games of his rookie year, where he carried the ball 5, 4, 18 and 8 times, respectively. Toss out those games, and his average goes up to a slightly more rugged 21.1 carries per game.

Doesn't sound like much, you say? Well, surprisingly, despite the reputation of Gibbs runningbacks as 25-plus carries per game types, Portis' career average is actually significantly higher than those of most of Gibbs' primary ballcarriers.[list][*]Earnest Byner averaged only 17.35 carries per game in his three years as the primary ballcarrier ('90-'92). [*]Gerald Riggs averaged only 16.75 carries per game in his approximately 12 games ('89) as the primary back. [*]George Rogers averaged only 17.8 carries per game in his two 1,000 yard seasons ('85 and '86). [*]Only the venerable old "Diesel", John Riggins, averaged more than 20 carries per game as the primary back (excluding the '81 season, where he and Joe Washington essentially split carries), averaging 23.75 carries per game.[/list]One interesting thing to note about Portis' astounding rushing averages is that his average yards per carry actually goes [i]up[/i] substantially when his team is ahead, to a devastating 6.0 yards per carry. That number was probably a big factor in Gibbs & Co's love affair with the young star.

CrazyCanuck 03-08-2004 08:59 PM

Great info JoeCrisp. Thanks.

Scott 03-08-2004 10:24 PM

I knew I could rely on you guys to put my mind at ease, thanks for the great feedback

Scott 03-08-2004 10:26 PM

Actually though it does bring me to another question, any of you guys have any good sites to research player stats and things of that nature?

joecrisp 03-08-2004 10:55 PM

[QUOTE=Scott]Actually though it does bring me to another question, any of you guys have any good sites to research player stats and things of that nature?[/QUOTE]
Here are three of my favorites:[list][*]Active NFL player stats: [url="http://www.nfl.com/players"]http://www.nfl.com/players[/url][*]Historical NFL stats: [url="http://www.jt-sw.com/football/pro/teams.nsf"]http://www.jt-sw.com/football/pro/teams.nsf[/url][*]Redskins database: [url="http://www.extremeskins.com/index.php"]http://www.extremeskins.com/index.php[/url][/list]The second site is one of the most comprehensive collections of NFL historical stats I've found on any free site. It has season-by-season stats for every NFL team, and even has stats for now-defunct historical teams. They've even been adding box scores of NFL games to the site, and have compiled them all the way back to the '94 season. Hopefully, they'll continue to add to it. It's damn good for a free site.

SmootSmack 03-08-2004 10:55 PM

This is a decent site

[url]http://www.pro-football-reference.com/[/url]

skinsfanthru&thru 03-08-2004 11:33 PM

awesome job finding all of that info. do you know if its possible to see what situations the team was in when he has had his fumbles the past 2 years? I only ask cuz I'd hate to see another Stephen Davis situation where he fumbles within 5 yards of the goalline(like he did in that last drive against us this year) or near the end of a game trying to wear the clock out (like in the cowboy game a couple years ago which was one of the worst game to watch in my life.)


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