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SmootSmack 10-14-2009 03:21 PM

DeAngelo Hall Questions Our Personnel Strategy
 
When asked if the Redskins could afford any more injuries, Hall took on the issue of the team's depth.

"Nah, not at all, not at all," he said. "Chris Samuels going down was a devastating loss for us, you know, devastating. We go from having a what, four-, five-, six-time Pro Bowler in there to a guy who hardly has played in this league. Not saying anything to Batiste, he was with me in Atlanta for a little while, but that's a big drop-off, that's a big drop-off. And heading into the offseason and preseason we said we needed to address the offensive line.

"We felt like we did get better ... but that's a position where you can always get better. You can always have proven guys out there backing other guys up that have played in this league, have had starts in this league. That's something we're lacking."

[url=http://voices.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/hall-i-dont-know-if-weve-got-t.html?wprss=redskinsinsider]Redskins Insider - Hall: 'I Don't Know If We've Got the Right Personnel'[/url]

Slingin Sammy 33 10-14-2009 03:27 PM

Re: DeAngelo Hall Questions Our Personnel Strategy
 
And a veteran CB who doesn't bite on big-time sucker plays and can tackle a immobile QB in his mid-30s would be nice to have too.

Schneed10 10-14-2009 03:34 PM

Re: DeAngelo Hall Questions Our Personnel Strategy
 
See, DHall is completely right. So is Rogers when talking about personnel. But I hate seeing these guys say it publicly, and in my mind that's an indictment of Zorn.

Gibbs had the team running like a tight-knit family, you aired your issues in-house, and you didn't take it to the media. The inference in DHall's comments is that Anthony Batiste sucks ass. It's totally the truth, but it's totally not cool to suggest that in the media. That causes rifts in the locker room and only serves to drive the team apart.

Zorn clearly is not the leader of men that Gibbs was. This stuff never happened with Gibbs, even though the depth problems were the exact same.

skinsfan69 10-14-2009 03:40 PM

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i wish these guys wouldn't diss their teammates in the media. it's so freakin awful. hall is becoming the portis of the defense. well....at least he practices. lol.

BigHairedAristocrat 10-14-2009 03:46 PM

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[quote=Schneed10;608397]See, DHall is completely right. So is Rogers when talking about personnel. But I hate seeing these guys say it publicly, and [B]in my mind that's an indictment of Zorn.[/B]

Gibbs had the team running like a tight-knit family, you aired your issues in-house, and you didn't take it to the media. The inference in DHall's comments is that Anthony Batiste sucks ass. It's totally the truth, but it's totally not cool to suggest that in the media. That causes rifts in the locker room and only serves to drive the team apart.

Zorn clearly is not the leader of men that Gibbs was. This stuff never happened with Gibbs, even though the depth problems were the exact same.[/quote]

And by extension, Zorn is an indictment of Snyderatto. They were forced to hire Zorn because, quite frankly, no one else would take the job. No one else would take the job, because no one wants to work under the existing front office structure.

Zorn seems like a nice guy. I don't fault him for failing as a head coach any more than I fault Batiste (and last year Justin Geisinger) for getting lit up when forced to play left tackle. CP said it best yesterday on the John Thompson Show - you can't blame a guy (referring to Batiste) when he's giving it everything he's got. I beleive Zorn is giving the job everything he's got. Its just simply not good enough. Zorn worked with Holmgren for the better part of a decade and he never got promoted above being a QB coach. No one else even interviewed him for an OC position - yet Daniel Snyder made him a head coach in one of the toughest divisions in football. Go figure.

As to Hall's comments - honestly, I don't mind them. In fact, I'm happy he's telling it like it is. This team is falling apart at the seams and this is just further evidence of it. Hopefully, things will continue to unravel and, at some point, Snyder will realize the front office structure has to change. So I applaud Hall. No amount of interceptions he catches will do this franchise more good than the words he's speaking now.

RobH4413 10-14-2009 03:48 PM

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We have traditionally never been one of those teams that you could get quotes from. In general... You heard Gibbs through the players. It's looking like we've entered a new era where players assume it's ok to sound off. How is addressing this issue mid season even remotely acceptable. It's very disturbing that these kinds of things coming to light.

D hall is an idiot and a bad teammate to say what he said. There is no excuse for his words.... And this team needs to put up or shut up.

Slingin Sammy 33 10-14-2009 03:57 PM

Re: DeAngelo Hall Questions Our Personnel Strategy
 
This game aside, because when Samuels goes out and you also insert a new RG (if this is for other than a legit injury, it's a dumb coaching move) you have instability on both sides of the line and 2 positions. Maybe I'm missing something in reviewing the games, but Rinehart and Heyer sure didn't look problematic to me. Going back over GTripp's reviews, both he and I are seeing pretty much the same things. In the run game for the most part, Rinehart / Heyer looked fine. Heyer is better in Pass-pro than run and Rinehart vice versa, but neither is worse than average at his position. Outside of the plays I mentioned in my reviews, if someone can show me evidence that Rinehart/Heyer are performing horribly, I'm certainly open to hear/see it.

If I remember correctly at least two of the sacks given up in the first 4 games were directly to Samuels. We all knew depth at OT was a major concern going into this year and the FO bears the responsibility for that, but based on what we know about Snyder (he gives the coaches what they ask for) the coaching staff bears responsibility here too.

JLee9718 10-14-2009 04:08 PM

Re: DeAngelo Hall Questions Our Personnel Strategy
 
Doesn't Joe Bugel have the responsibility for getting the best available players on the offensive line? I would think that's his job, but he doesn't have any talent to work with, thanks to Cerrato and Snyder. I'll say this, Batiste was not ready to play this past Sunday when Samuels went down. So Hall is right to question personnel strategy.

BringBackJoeT 10-14-2009 04:18 PM

Re: DeAngelo Hall Questions Our Personnel Strategy
 
Not only is Hall calling out a teammate, but by questioning whether the team has "the right personnel," he comes very close to conceding away the season. Whatever judgments might be easily made about this team five games into the season, a player on any 2-3 team that has a shot at reaching 3-3 by virtue of an upcoming home game against arguably the worst team in the league should not be saying, "You know, I'm not sure this team really has it."

But even putting this aside, it's pretty ironic to hear one of the most recent beneficiaries of management's decision-making questioning the foresight of those same managers.

SFREDSKIN 10-14-2009 04:30 PM

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He should keep his mouth shut and realize how lucky he is to have gotten such a huge contract for his shitty play and tackling from our rocket scientist FO.

dmvskinzfan08 10-14-2009 04:48 PM

Re: DeAngelo Hall Questions Our Personnel Strategy
 
[quote=SmootSmack;608386]When asked if the Redskins could afford any more injuries, Hall took on the issue of the team's depth.

"Nah, not at all, not at all," he said. "Chris Samuels going down was a devastating loss for us, you know, devastating. We go from having a what, four-, five-, six-time Pro Bowler in there to a guy who hardly has played in this league. Not saying anything to Batiste, he was with me in Atlanta for a little while, but that's a big drop-off, that's a big drop-off. And heading into the offseason and preseason we said we needed to address the offensive line.

"We felt like we did get better ... but that's a position where you can always get better. You can always have proven guys out there backing other guys up that have played in this league, have had starts in this league. That's something we're lacking."

[URL="http://voices.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/hall-i-dont-know-if-weve-got-t.html?wprss=redskinsinsider"]Redskins Insider - Hall: 'I Don't Know If We've Got the Right Personnel'[/URL][/quote]

He is completely right. Many on here worried about the O-line. But we have too many people in our FO and organization as a whole. Who don't know how to bite the bullet and be accountable. Blache has become accountable and I think Zorn has also. But I think people like Hixon Smith and the FO are fuckign know it alls. Instead of them swallowing their pride and saying I am wrong or I made the wrong moves. They think they still are right and make themselves seem very ignorant. Then Zorn gets the blame. I think he makes some bad play calls. But overall its the ones behind the scene tha I think are killing the team. Not Blache (despite the Orakpo experiment) not Zorn (despite bad time mgmt/play calling). But the people behind them. It does start from the top. You can't be so bull headed that you put yourself and your prdie before the team. This goes for everyone. How the hell did we think we were going to do anything without a O-line????????????

When will these vain a-holes learn? They are destroying the team. Then DS will give a speech with the SuperBowl Trophies in front of him. He needs to keep those locked up until he wins one and stop acting like he was here when we got them!!!!!!!!!!! There is no "I" in team!! From the top to the bottom.


* Deangelo makes mistakes but he also makes plays. But as far as this he is telling the truth and I guess to some the truth hurts or they are in denial!!!

Sheriff Gonna Getcha 10-14-2009 04:54 PM

Re: DeAngelo Hall Questions Our Personnel Strategy
 
DeAngelo Hall is absolutely, 100% right. We ALL knew the offensive line was a weakness on the team. We ALL knew that the starters were aging and had a history of injuries. Yet, for some reason, we basically ignored the offensive line in the offseason (swapping Kendall for Dockery was basically a push).

dmvskinzfan08 10-14-2009 04:56 PM

Re: DeAngelo Hall Questions Our Personnel Strategy
 
[quote=Sheriff Gonna Getcha;608443]DeAngelo Hall is absolutely, 100% right. We ALL knew the offensive line was a weakness on the team. We ALL knew that the starters were aging and had a history of injuries. Yet, for some reason, we basically ignored the offensive line in the offseason (swapping Kendall for Dockery was basically a push).[/quote]

We should have kept Kendall and Jansen for one more year. They were old but they had experience. They could teach the young guys at least for one more year and then been dropped. FO are idiots!!

Mattyk 10-14-2009 05:04 PM

Re: DeAngelo Hall Questions Our Personnel Strategy
 
When he can tackle an ancient QB who can't run in the open field, then let's talk.

Mattyk 10-14-2009 05:05 PM

Re: DeAngelo Hall Questions Our Personnel Strategy
 
[quote=Schneed10;608397]See, DHall is completely right. So is Rogers when talking about personnel. But I hate seeing these guys say it publicly, and in my mind that's an indictment of Zorn.

Gibbs had the team running like a tight-knit family, you aired your issues in-house, and you didn't take it to the media. The inference in DHall's comments is that Anthony Batiste sucks ass. It's totally the truth, but it's totally not cool to suggest that in the media. That causes rifts in the locker room and only serves to drive the team apart.

Zorn clearly is not the leader of men that Gibbs was. This stuff never happened with Gibbs, even though the depth problems were the exact same.[/quote]

Yeah it's just another sign of how dysfunctional the team is under Zorn. He's got no control. He's done.


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