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Mattyk 10-14-2009 06:18 PM

How coaches on the hot seat affect players in the locker room
 
Good read by Ross Tucker

[url=http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/writers/ross_tucker/10/14/coaches/index.html]Jim Zorn, Dick Jauron's job status affect players in locker room - Ross Tucker - SI.com[/url]

SmootSmack 10-14-2009 06:22 PM

Re: How coaches on the hot seat affect players in the locker room
 
Casserly had some interesting comments on this as well

[url=http://www.csnwashington.com/pages/multimedia_videos]CSN Washington: DC Sports Videos[/url]

Scroll down to the Thaler and Casserly 10-13 video (interesting part really starts around the 1:30 part-cutting off certain lines of communications was interesting)

firstdown 10-14-2009 06:34 PM

Re: How coaches on the hot seat affect players in the locker room
 
[quote=SmootSmack;608473]Casserly had some interesting comments on this as well

[URL="http://www.csnwashington.com/pages/multimedia_videos"]CSN Washington: DC Sports Videos[/URL]

Scroll down to the Thaler and Casserly 10-13 video (interesting part really starts around the 1:30 part-cutting off certain lines of communications was interesting)[/quote]

Well when I coaching pop flag football thats the way it was. The only time I ever had any trouble was when one of the kids went to their first grade teacher and started talking bad about our QB but after I got hold of him everything stayed in house.

SmootSmack 10-14-2009 06:35 PM

Re: How coaches on the hot seat affect players in the locker room
 
[quote=firstdown;608481]Well when I coaching pop flag football thats the way it was. The only time I ever had any trouble was when one of the kids went to their first grade teacher and started talking bad about our QB but after I got hold of him everything stayed in house.[/quote]

LOL. Classic

tryfuhl 10-14-2009 07:24 PM

Re: How coaches on the hot seat affect players in the locker room
 
[quote=SmootSmack;608473]Casserly had some interesting comments on this as well

[URL="http://www.csnwashington.com/pages/multimedia_videos"]CSN Washington: DC Sports Videos[/URL]

Scroll down to the Thaler and Casserly 10-13 video (interesting part really starts around the 1:30 part-cutting off certain lines of communications was interesting)[/quote]
Yeah, that's big time. The player should go to his position and coordinating coaches and that's about it. I mean sometimes you'll have a position coach not bring it up to the next guy, so I guess the degree of the issue factors in.

53Fan 10-15-2009 01:54 AM

Re: How coaches on the hot seat affect players in the locker room
 
I said it in another thread and I'll say it again, would it have killed Danny to come out and say he supports Zorn? Let the players know he's going to be here and they need to step up? They supposedly had confidence in him when they named him HC and it would mean a lot to a 2nd year HC to be able to concentrate on the team instead of whether he's going to be replaced or not. The players too from what the article says. They made the decision to hire him and if they had any balls they'd come out with a statement to publicly say they support him. How can anyone concentrate on football with all the speculation and rumors going around? Step up Danny or Vinny! If you would have done this a couple of weeks ago things might be different. Even JC said he was thinking about Zorn losing his job in the first half of the Tampa game.

Monkeydad 10-15-2009 10:01 AM

Re: How coaches on the hot seat affect players in the locker room
 
At least we are not putting our cash together to rent a billboard in honor of our coach, like in Buffalo:

[IMG]http://www.buffalosportsdaily.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/firedickbillboard-copy.jpg[/IMG]

maroonandblack30 10-15-2009 10:40 AM

Re: How coaches on the hot seat affect players in the locker room
 
[url=http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4561377]Report: Players want Washington Redskins to endorse Jim Zorn - ESPN[/url]

CRedskinsRule 10-15-2009 10:52 AM

Re: How coaches on the hot seat affect players in the locker room
 
[quote=53Fan;608728]I said it in another thread and I'll say it again, would it have killed Danny to come out and say he supports Zorn? Let the players know he's going to be here and they need to step up? They supposedly had confidence in him when they named him HC and it would mean a lot to a 2nd year HC to be able to concentrate on the team instead of whether he's going to be replaced or not. The players too from what the article says. They made the decision to hire him and if they had any balls they'd come out with a statement to publicly say they support him. How can anyone concentrate on football with all the speculation and rumors going around? Step up Danny or Vinny! If you would have done this a couple of weeks ago things might be different. Even JC said he was thinking about Zorn losing his job in the first half of the Tampa game.[/quote]

The problem, of course, is that the mediots that want to attack Snyder no matter what he does, would turn the public statement of support into the "Kiss of Death".

The other problem is how do you support a coach who can't send in two plays and tell the qb use the one that fits.

This is a no win situation for a lot of people associated with the Skins. I think that the best thing this team - from DS down to every player - can do is play the games, shut up and ignore the media, and try to right the ship.

SmootSmack 10-15-2009 10:55 AM

Re: How coaches on the hot seat affect players in the locker room
 
[quote=maroonandblack30;608828][url=http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4561377]Report: Players want Washington Redskins to endorse Jim Zorn - ESPN[/url][/quote]

This story appears to have been modified, because the original story was the players wanted management to make a decision now. Either let him go now or say you're keeping him for the season. Either way make a decision now instead of waiting

Mattyk 10-15-2009 10:55 AM

Re: How coaches on the hot seat affect players in the locker room
 
It's quite obvious DS does not support Zorn. Hell he was close to canning him last year if it weren't for the late season Philly win. So to expect an endorsement now is unrealistic.

FRPLG 10-15-2009 12:09 PM

Re: How coaches on the hot seat affect players in the locker room
 
DS needs to sh*t or get off the pot. We aren't there every day to experience how well Zorn does his job. We see only part of what he is supposed to do on Sundays and hear a little bit about the behind the secens but we don't know nearly enough to really make a good case whether he is any good or not. DS does....if he had questions last year, after only one season on the job, then it should have been addressed then.

DS knows what he thinks of Zorn and he needs to decide whether he wants to gvie him a chance to grow some and become or good or not. It doesn't seem like that hard of a decision to me. Letting everything be so up in the air though is the worst thing he could be doing. This is what makes everyone dislike DS more than anything. The perception that he makes football decisions through petulance and emotions and not using some sound strategy involving logic and long-term planning.

53Fan 10-15-2009 12:32 PM

Re: How coaches on the hot seat affect players in the locker room
 
[quote=CRedskinsRule;608836]The problem, of course, is that the mediots that want to attack Snyder no matter what he does, would turn the public statement of support into the "Kiss of Death".

[B]The other problem is how do you support a coach who can't send in two plays and tell the qb use the one that fits.[/B]

This is a no win situation for a lot of people associated with the Skins. I think that the best thing this team - from DS down to every player - can do is play the games, shut up and ignore the media, and try to right the ship.[/quote]

The same way you hire a QB coach to be your HC. Just do it. I bet you there is as much talk about what's going to happen with Zorn among the players as there is about our next opponent. The FO office knew they were hiring someone who was going to have to learn on the job. JC said him and the players he was eating with were talking about how they need to keep Zorn encouraged. Shouldn't they be thinking about KC? Either make the change or endorse him for the rest of the year. I think this would help them do what you suggest. It may be too late to do what they should have done the 3rd week of the season though. This is turning into a soap opera.

CRedskinsRule 10-15-2009 01:20 PM

Re: How coaches on the hot seat affect players in the locker room
 
[quote=53Fan;608877]The same way you hire a QB coach to be your HC. Just do it. I bet you there is as much talk about what's going to happen with Zorn among the players as there is about our next opponent. The FO office knew they were hiring someone who was going to have to learn on the job. JC said him and the players he was eating with were talking about how they need to keep Zorn encouraged. Shouldn't they be thinking about KC? Either make the change or endorse him for the rest of the year. I think this would help them do what you suggest. It may be too late to do what they should have done the 3rd week of the season though. This is turning into a soap opera.[/quote]

What if rather than a true public endorsement (which I guarantee the media would make fun of). He "let it be known" through a solid back source like Schefter that Zorn was here for the year. Would that fit the bill?

53Fan 10-15-2009 01:54 PM

Re: How coaches on the hot seat affect players in the locker room
 
[quote=CRedskinsRule;608909]What if rather than a true public endorsement (which I guarantee the media would make fun of). He "let it be known" through a solid back source like Schefter that Zorn was here for the year. Would that fit the bill?[/quote]

:laughing- That seems to be how we get most of our news anyway. WTH not? In fact, as you mentioned about the media calling it the "Kiss of death" if Snyder came out and said it publicly, it might even be better for them to do it that way. I would just hope the players buy into it and start putting all their thoughts into winning the next game.


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