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Redskin Warrior 10-15-2009 05:06 PM

Review the Redskins Personnel Moves from 2005-2009
 
There has been a lot of talk lately about the personnel moves made over the years that leaded to our problems today. I posted the personnel moves the redskins made from 2005-2009 (excluding the offseason losses in 2005 and mid-season trades during the seasons) to look and get everyone's opinion on where they went wrong. And if you know who they lost in the 2005 offseason I couldn't find much other than Rod Gardner (I wasn't a Redskin fan at that time) and mid-season trades post it. Review and comment!!

[SIZE="4"]2005 NFL Season Preview[/SIZE]

[B]Veteran Additions[/B]:
QB Mark Brunell, RB Clinton Portis, OL Ray Brown, C Cory Raymer, HB/TE Brian Kozlowski, Walter Rasby, TE Fred Baxter

[B]Draft Picks[/B]:
CB Carlos Rogers, QB Jason Campbell, RB Manuel White, LB Robert McCune, LB Jared Newberry, RB Nehemiah Broughton

[B]Offseason Losses[/B]:
I couldn't find much about this year losses


[SIZE="4"]2006 NFL Season Preview[/SIZE]

[B]Veteran Additions[/B]:
QB Todd Collins, WR Antwaan Randle El, WR Brandon Lloyd, TE Christian Fauria, C Mike Pucillo, OL Tyson Walter, DE/OLB Andre Carter, LB Jeff Posey, CB Mike Rumph, CB Kenny Wright, S Adam Archuleta

[B]Draft Picks[/B]:
LB Rocky McIntosh, DT Anthony Montgomery, S Reed Doughty, DT Kedric Golston, G Kili Lefotu, LB Kevin Simon

[B]Offseason Losses[/B]:
QB Patrick Ramsey, WR Taylor Jacobs, WR/KR Antonio Brown, TE Robert Royal, C Cory Raymer, DT Brandon Noble, OLB LaVar Arrington, CB Walt Harris, S Omar Stoutmire, S Ryan Clark, S Matt Bowen, P Tom Tupa


[SIZE="4"]2007 NFL Season Preview[/SIZE]

[B]Veteran Additions[/B]:
OT Jason Fabini, MLB London Fletcher, CB Fred Smoot, CB David Macklin, CB Jerametrius Butler, S Omar Stoutmire, ST Derrick Blaylock.

[B]Draft Picks[/B]:
QB Jordan Palmer, TE Tyler Ecker, OLB Dallas Sartz, MLB H.B. Blades, S LaRon Landry.

[B]Offseason Losses[/B]:
RB T.J. Duckett (DET), WR David Patten (NO), G Derrick Dockery (BUF), OLB Warrick Holdman (DEN), OLB Jeff Posey, CB Kenny Wright (CLE), S Troy Vincent, K John Hall.


[SIZE="4"]2008 NFL Season Preview[/SIZE]

[B]Veteran Additions[/B]:
DE Jason Taylor, DE Erasmus James, DT Matthias Askew, DT Zarnell Fitch, OLB Alfred Fincher, S Stuart Schweigert.

[B]Draft Picks[/B]:
QB Colt Brennan, WR Devin Thomas, WR Malcolm Kelly, TE Fred Davis, G/OT Chad Rinehart, DE Rob Jackson, CB Justin Tryon, S Kareem Moore, S Chris Horton, P Durant Brooks.

[B]Offseason Losses[/B]:
QB Mark Brunell, RB Eric Shelton, WR Brandon Lloyd, WR Reche Caldwell, WR Keenan McCardell, WR Mike Espy, WR Steven Harris, TE Brian Kozlowski, OT Ross Tucker, OT Kevin Sampson, G Rick DeMulling, G Mike Pucillo, OLB Rian Wallace, ILB Randall Godfrey, CB David Macklin, S Stuart Schweigert, S Pierson Prioleau, S Vernon Fox, S Omar Stoutmire, KR Jerome Mathis.


[SIZE="4"]2009 NFL Season Preview[/SIZE]

[B]Veteran Additions[/B]:
RB Anthony Alridge, WR D.J. Hackett, OT Mike Williams, G Derrick Dockery, G Jeremy Bridges, DT Albert Haynesworth, OLB Robert Thomas, P Hunter Smith.

[B]Draft Picks[/B]:
DE/OLB Brian Orakpo, CB Kevin Barnes, OLB Cody Glenn, OLB Robert Henson, TE Eddie Williams, WR Marko Mitchell, DE Jeremy Jarmon.

[B]Offseason Losses[/B]:
WR James Thrash, OT Jon Jansen, G Pete Kendall, C Justin Geisinger, DE Demetric Evans, DE Jason Taylor, DT Ryan Boschetti, OLB Marcus Washington, OLB Khary Campbell, OLB Darrell McClover, CB Shawn Springs, S Mike Green, P Durant Brooks, P Ryan Plackemeier, P Dirk Johnson

ArtMonkDrillz 10-15-2009 05:15 PM

Re: Review the Redskins Personnel Moves from 2005-2009
 
What really jumps out to me is that since '05 we have drafted TWO offensive linemen. And really, how many quality/starting FA linemen have we picked up?
I think that sums it all up.

SmootSmack 10-15-2009 05:19 PM

Re: Review the Redskins Personnel Moves from 2005-2009
 
This doesn't include what we had to give up to get some of these guys

Some examples:

1st, 3rd, and 4th for Campbell (swap of 1st rounders)

3rd and 4th for Lloyd

3rd for Duckett

2nd and 6th for Jason Taylor

Two 2nds and a 6th for Rocky McIntosh (swapped one of the 2nds)

DynamiteRave 10-15-2009 05:23 PM

Re: Review the Redskins Personnel Moves from 2005-2009
 
[quote=SmootSmack;609072]This doesn't include what we had to give up to get some of these guys

Some examples:

1st, 3rd, and 4th for Campbell (swap of 1st rounders)

3rd and 4th for Lloyd

3rd for Duckett

2nd and 6th for Jason Taylor

Two 2nds and a 6th for Rocky McIntosh (swapped one of the 2nds)[/quote]

I was gonna say that 2007 draft looks like a real dud. Only 2 keepers from that draft. Phew. We either can't draft for shit or we have serious problems just trading away our draft rounds. It's not candy damnit.

CRedskinsRule 10-15-2009 05:24 PM

Re: Review the Redskins Personnel Moves from 2005-2009
 
Good research Warrior.

Redskin Warrior 10-15-2009 05:27 PM

Re: Review the Redskins Personnel Moves from 2005-2009
 
[quote=SmootSmack;609072]This doesn't include what we had to give up to get some of these guys

Some examples:

1st, 3rd, and 4th for Campbell (swap of 1st rounders)

3rd and 4th for Lloyd

3rd for Duckett

2nd and 6th for Jason Taylor

[B]Two 2nds and a 6th for Rocky McIntosh (swapped one of the 2nds)[/B][/quote]

There all pretty steep but they choose the wrong LB to trade this for a couple slots before McIntosh there was Demeco Ryans.

SmootSmack 10-15-2009 05:28 PM

Re: Review the Redskins Personnel Moves from 2005-2009
 
[quote=Redskin Warrior;609077]There all pretty steep but they choose the wrong LB to trade this for a couple slots before McIntosh there was Demeco Ryans.[/quote]

Yeah I was kind of hoping we'd target Ryans this off-season, but with no cap he's not an unrestricted free agent

Redskin Warrior 10-15-2009 05:28 PM

Re: Review the Redskins Personnel Moves from 2005-2009
 
[quote=CRedskinsRule;609075]Good research Warrior.[/quote]

Thank you :)

Redskin Warrior 10-15-2009 05:31 PM

Re: Review the Redskins Personnel Moves from 2005-2009
 
[quote=ArtMonkDrillz;609069]What really jumps out to me is that since '05 we have drafted TWO offensive linemen. And really, how many quality/starting FA linemen have we picked up?
I think that sums it all up.[/quote]

Yeah your right and the two OL are Chad Rinehart & Kili Lefotu!!! WOW!!!

wolfeskins 10-15-2009 05:32 PM

Re: Review the Redskins Personnel Moves from 2005-2009
 
for the 06 losses i wish the skins would have kept lavar arrington,walt harris and ryan clark. the skins should have never let antonio peirce go in 04 or 05 (which ever it was) also should have never let smoot go, if the skins would have kept smoot they could of drafted someone other than carlose rogers.

53Fan 10-15-2009 05:49 PM

Re: Review the Redskins Personnel Moves from 2005-2009
 
[quote=Redskin Warrior;609081]Yeah your right and the two OL are Chad Rinehart & Kili Lefotu!!! WOW!!![/quote]

OMG. :doh:

Hog1 10-15-2009 05:52 PM

Re: Review the Redskins Personnel Moves from 2005-2009
 
MAN.....that is a lot of names who NEVER played or no longer play for us..........

BaltimoreSkins 10-15-2009 05:52 PM

Re: Review the Redskins Personnel Moves from 2005-2009
 
Lack of drafting O-line def, but overall during that time span I don't feel like it was a good track record of drafting. Looking at I'd give a C/C+ at best. I'm curious at how the other clubs in the division would rate over the same five year span.

Slingin Sammy 33 10-15-2009 07:14 PM

Re: Review the Redskins Personnel Moves from 2005-2009
 
Good research and info. I know we've heard a LOT over the past week about the FO "not addressing the OL". Actually for FO did address the OL, however it was through FA and resignings, not the draft (the only caveat on this post at this point is that Dock isn't performing up to speed).

[URL]http://www.thewarpath.net/redskins-locker-room/32035-offensive-line-depth-r-thomas-injury-6.html#post593662[/URL]

Obviously we're in a tough situation now because the health of the 3 guys the FO expected to be the core of our OL for another couple of years succumbed to injuries. When these guys were re-signed they had all been pretty durable throughout their careers.

While I agree we need a GM and Vinny needs to move into the background, any moves prior to the 2008 off-season can't be pinned on Vinny. From '03-'07 Gibbs needs to shoulder the blame as he held the final say-so (he got real bad personnel advice from GW and Saunders).

Beemnseven 10-15-2009 07:23 PM

Re: Review the Redskins Personnel Moves from 2005-2009
 
[quote=Redskin Warrior;609068]
[SIZE="4"]2005 NFL Season Preview[/SIZE]


[B]Draft Picks[/B]:
CB Carlos Rogers, QB Jason Campbell, RB Manuel White, LB Robert McCune, LB Jared Newberry, RB Nehemiah Broughton[/quote]

The one thing that stands out about this draft is that Chris Canty was available several picks after we took Manuel White, Jr. As a UVA fan, I was really hoping we would pick up Canty -- and at the time, D-line was a need.


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