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Mattyk 10-15-2009 08:42 PM

Should Snyder listen to his players?
 
[url=http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/Should-Snyder-listen-to-his-players.html]Should Snyder listen to his players? | National Football Post[/url]

good read

Hog1 10-15-2009 08:45 PM

Re: Should Snyder listen to his players?
 
DS is listening, just not officially. I GUARANTEE he does NOT like all the negative pub his team is getting, and ESPECIALLY all the allegations of incompetence leveled toward both he and VC. What happens as a result remains to be seen...........

Beemnseven 10-15-2009 09:03 PM

Re: Should Snyder listen to his players?
 
The picture alone of Snyder is repulsive. I can't help thinking what a pompous, smug little prick he looks like.

The Goat 10-15-2009 09:10 PM

Re: Should Snyder listen to his players?
 
I don't buy into the notion Snyder pays any attention to what's said. In fact I doubt he gives two shits. Look at his ten years as owner...this is a guy who believes he is absolutely the smartest person in any conversation/interaction.

...I will be shocked if he ever really turns over any serious decision-making.

backrow 10-15-2009 09:14 PM

Re: Should Snyder listen to his players?
 
This really becomes a poll question:

Should Dan Snyder give Coach Zorn a vote of confidence?


I say no. A vote of confidence is usually the kiss of death!

Hog1 10-15-2009 09:18 PM

Re: Should Snyder listen to his players?
 
[quote=The Goat;609173]I don't buy into the notion Snyder pays any attention to what's said. In fact I doubt he gives two shits. Look at his ten years as owner...this is a guy who believes he is absolutely the smartest person in any conversation/interaction.

...I will be shocked if he ever really turns over any serious decision-making.[/quote]
One thing that I have to give to Dan's side is that basically he has been tried and convicted of being a pompous, cretanic, uncaring bastard, etc on the basis of?????
Anybody had any direct contact with him?
He may be, but to my knowledge, nobody here can.....legitimately substantiate it

DFI 10-15-2009 09:20 PM

Re: Should Snyder listen to his players?
 
that's a good read

53Fan 10-15-2009 09:24 PM

Re: Should Snyder listen to his players?
 
A good read and I agree with Matt. You hear so many stories about disgruntled players like Lavar running Snyder into the ground, I was kinda surprised to read Matt say how much Dan is liked by the players. He says he's never seen an owner called out by the players like this before. Will it do any good for Snyder to hear it from the players? I guess we'll see.

70Chip 10-15-2009 09:37 PM

Re: Should Snyder listen to his players?
 
Snyder should go skiing in Switzerland... until February. Make that June.

Defensewins 10-15-2009 09:52 PM

Re: Should Snyder listen to his players?
 
[quote=Hog1;609177]One thing that I have to give to Dan's side is that basically he has been tried and convicted of being a pompous, cretanic, uncaring bastard, etc on the basis of?????
Anybody had any direct contact with him?
He may be, but to my knowledge, nobody here can.....legitimately substantiate it[/quote]

Even if all those things were true and more about Snyder I wouldn't care. I wouldn't even mind Snyder running the player personnel operations and fan club. If the team just played at a descent/respectable level on the field. Other then a few moments under Gibbs II was there brief accomplishment. But Snyder & Ceratto always manage to run the team back into the ground again. His unwillingness to hire a good Gm and let him run the team is what makes fans hate him. Not his exterior or behavior.
Just win baby. The fans will love you again....warts and all.

For every game the Redskin lose right now, Snyder is feeling it big time. These articles and player comments in the press. The team losing to the worst teams in the NFL. Redskins a laughing stock in the media. You better believe this is stressing him. Maybe it is what he needs so he learns to delegate to professional football men. Time will tell if continues to make an ass of himself or he digs himself out.

The Goat 10-15-2009 10:02 PM

Re: Should Snyder listen to his players?
 
[quote=Hog1;609177]One thing that I have to give to Dan's side is that basically he has been tried and convicted of being a pompous, cretanic, uncaring bastard, etc on the basis of?????
Anybody had any direct contact with him?
He may be, but to my knowledge, nobody here can.....legitimately substantiate it[/quote]

I have no idea what is manners are like...I don't think it makes any difference. Kraft may be the biggest jerk on the planet for all I know (I don't btw) but he knows how to be a very good franchise owner. Snyder's ownership, by any honest account, is a disaster. His manners are not more or less irrelevant but his decision-making is critical.

The Goat 10-15-2009 10:05 PM

Re: Should Snyder listen to his players?
 
[quote=Defensewins;609193]Even if all those things were true and more about Snyder I wouldn't care. I wouldn't even mind Snyder running the player personnel operations and fan club. If the team just played at a descent/respectable level on the field. Other then a few moments under Gibbs II was there brief accomplishment. But Snyder & Ceratto always manage to run the team back into the ground again. His unwillingness to hire a good Gm and let him run the team is what makes fans hate him. Not his exterior or behavior.
Just win baby. The fans will love you again....warts and all.

For every game the Redskin lose right now, Snyder is feeling it big time. These articles and player comments in the press. The team losing to the worst teams in the NFL. Redskins a laughing stock in the media. You better believe this is stressing him. Maybe it is what he needs so he learns to delegate to professional football men. Time will tell if continues to make an ass of himself or he digs himself out.[/quote]

Excellent post man! I tend to disagree on Snyder's reaction, or lack thereof. But overall you really wrap the whole idea of a football franchise into a nice paragraph.

Hog1 10-15-2009 10:08 PM

Re: Should Snyder listen to his players?
 
[quote=The Goat;609197]I have no idea what is manners are like...I don't think it makes any difference. Kraft may be the biggest jerk on the planet for all I know (I don't btw) but he knows how to be a very good franchise owner. Snyder's ownership, by any honest account, is a disaster. His manners are not more or less irrelevant but his decision-making is critical.[/quote]
I really was not singling you out, but DS has recieved 40 lifetimes full of BS about his character from people that do not have any personal knowledge of him. He may deserve it, but AT LEAST it should come from actual knowledge.

GMScud 10-15-2009 10:09 PM

Re: Should Snyder listen to his players?
 
That was a good read. It sickens me to think of the success we've been missing out on over the last decade. If we could only match up a solid GM with Snyder's willingness to spend and desire to win....

It's pretty amazing that someone who supposedly wants to win more than anything just can't get out of his own way.

Mattyk 10-15-2009 10:11 PM

Re: Should Snyder listen to his players?
 
[quote=Hog1;609203]I really was not singling you out, but DS has recieved 40 lifetimes full of BS about his character from people that do not have any personal knowledge of him. He may deserve it, but AT LEAST it should come from actual knowledge.[/quote]

I do think you're bringing up a good point. DS does get a lot shit he doesn't deserve but if we were 5-0 right now he could be the biggest prick a-hole in the world and nobody would care. Problem is when we lose everyone piles on, fair or not. We always hear that DS just wants to win, well so do we, trouble is he's not going about things the right way to reach that goal. His track record over the last decade speaks for itself.


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