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BigHairedAristocrat 11-23-2009 10:59 AM

Cerrato's Not (Just) Incompetent - He's Oblivious (Offensive Line / Dysfunctional Coaching Staff Related)
 
I can't even begin to describe this recount of part of Cerrato's radio show last Friday morning, so i'll just provide the link.

[url=http://voices.washingtonpost.com/dcsportsbog/2009/11/cerrato_discusses_an_aging_off.html]D.C. Sports Bog - Cerrato discusses an aging offensive line[/url]

Cerrato needs to go. If Snyder doesn't fire him, then he's even more oblivious than Cerrato.

Oh, and if you aren't tired of shaking your head in disgust at this team, check out Steinberg's preceding bog entry entitled Zorn: "It is Bleak." Zorn has had most of his duties stripped of him, so you would think he would be really good at the few jobs he had left, right?... right?...

Trample the Elderly 11-23-2009 11:35 AM

Re: Cerrato's Not (Just) Incompetent - He's Oblivioius (Offensive Line / Dysfunctional Coaching Staff Related)
 
This is bad humor. :doh:

SmootSmack 11-23-2009 12:16 PM

Re: Cerrato's Not (Just) Incompetent - He's Oblivioius (Offensive Line / Dysfunctional Coaching Staff Related)
 
I'm not sure where Cerrato says here that the Redskins don't have similar problems. On a side note, I'm still not sure why the Redskins (Cerrato) picked up a veteran starting G/T in Jeremy Bridges and he couldn't crack the final roster. On a side to the side note, it is kind of funny to read in this forum today about how much the Redskins suffered from losing Rinehart to injury when many of those people have spent the last two years calling him a bum who shouldn't be on the team anyway.

Ruhskins 11-23-2009 12:18 PM

Re: Cerrato's Not (Just) Incompetent - He's Oblivioius (Offensive Line / Dysfunctional Coaching Staff Related)
 
[quote=SmootSmack;629623]I'm not sure where Cerrato says here that the Redskins don't have similar problems. On a side note, I'm still not sure why the Redskins (Cerrato) picked up a veteran starting G/T in Jeremy Bridges and he couldn't crack the final roster. [B]On a side to the side note, it is kind of funny to read in this forum today about how much the Redskins suffered from losing Rinehart to injury when many of those people have spent the last two years calling him a bum who shouldn't be on the team anyway.[/B][/quote]

I think the same thing when folks talk about building up the offensive line, yet they want to pick up a QB with the first round pick.

SmootSmack 11-23-2009 12:19 PM

Re: Cerrato's Not (Just) Incompetent - He's Oblivioius (Offensive Line / Dysfunctional Coaching Staff Related)
 
I'm one of those who would like for the Redskins to very strongly consider taking a QB in the first round. But that doesn't mean I don't want to build the line as well.

Beemnseven 11-23-2009 12:20 PM

Re: Cerrato's Not (Just) Incompetent - He's Oblivioius (Offensive Line / Dysfunctional Coaching Staff Related)
 
Actually, this interview fits perfectly because in Cerrato's mind, he apparently thought our offensive line was in great shape.

SBXVII 11-23-2009 12:26 PM

Re: Cerrato's Not (Just) Incompetent - He's Oblivioius (Offensive Line / Dysfunctional Coaching Staff Related)
 
[quote=Ruhskins;629626]I think the same thing when folks talk about building up the offensive line, yet they want to pick up a QB with the first round pick.[/quote]

^This is what baffles me? Would you rather have an excellent QB who is not getting the ball off in time before the rush gets to him or gets sacked or is running for his life or would you be willing to for go the QB position for one yr and build up the OL some so the QB, whoever is behind center, has more time to throw and not getting creamed?

I imagine JC is gone after this season. Snyder is not impressed with JC and JC is not impressed with how he was handled this off season. So I doubt he stays....unless whoever is the new HC seriously talks DS and JC into keeping JC on this team. Which I doubt will happen.

It's now painfully obvious we need young healthy talent on the O-line. Can we atleast build that up so no matter who is QBing or RBing is going to do half decent?

SBXVII 11-23-2009 12:31 PM

Re: Cerrato's Not (Just) Incompetent - He's Oblivioius (Offensive Line / Dysfunctional Coaching Staff Related)
 
Another question I have been pondering......maybe I'm crazy.....but I think we all know there's different styles to how the O-line blocks. Proven by when Levi came to us he said he would have to re-learn a blocking scheme he learned in college and took him to the pro's, but he hadn't used since college.

Is there a possibility that Buges scheme is out dated, or possibly the cause of all the O-line injuries?

BigHairedAristocrat 11-23-2009 12:36 PM

Re: Cerrato's Not (Just) Incompetent - He's Oblivioius (Offensive Line / Dysfunctional Coaching Staff Related)
 
[quote=SmootSmack;629629]I'm one of those who would like for the Redskins to very strongly consider taking a QB in the first round. But that doesn't mean I don't want to build the line as well.[/quote]

Its still too early to say what we should do because we have no idea of knowing who our next coach will be or what type of offense we will run, or what players will become available in FA or by trade... but if the CBA is not extended, as much as I hate to say it, Jason Cambell will be the best QB "available." Right now i'm thinking the course of wisdom may be to get some o-linemen, retain campbell on the cheap, and let him hold down the fort for 2010 and then get a QB in 2011.

As much as I don't like Campbell in the long-term, he's played in enough systems that he should do ok at managing the game no matter what system we run in 2010.

SmootSmack 11-23-2009 12:47 PM

Re: Cerrato's Not (Just) Incompetent - He's Oblivioius (Offensive Line / Dysfunctional Coaching Staff Related)
 
What do we have to gain from keeping Campbell just for one more year to hold down the fort? Either fully commit to him long-term or make the switch now (now meaning end of the season). Sure, maybe Clausen or Bradford or whoever takes his lumps in 2010. But that's fine if it means our QB is a step ahead of the curve come 2011.

53Fan 11-23-2009 12:48 PM

Re: Cerrato's Not (Just) Incompetent - He's Oblivioius (Offensive Line / Dysfunctional Coaching Staff Related)
 
If we don't get some studs on o-line I don't think it matters who the QB is. Retain JC and draft some linemen. [B]IF[/B] JC doesn't play well next year, draft a QB in 2011 and the linemen will be in their second year. When is the "I don't mind losing for a couple of years if we're building our team to be consistently good for the future" going to happen?

firstdown 11-23-2009 12:57 PM

Re: Cerrato's Not (Just) Incompetent - He's Oblivioius (Offensive Line / Dysfunctional Coaching Staff Related)
 
[quote=Beemnseven;629630]Actually, this interview fits perfectly because in Cerrato's mind, he apparently thought our offensive line was in great shape.[/quote]
I have heard Buges several times before this season and last season saying how strong we where along the O line. That leads me to believe that just maybe Buges could be part of the problem and Cerrato not persuing more lines players based of what Buges is telling him.

Trample the Elderly 11-23-2009 01:06 PM

Re: Cerrato's Not (Just) Incompetent - He's Oblivioius (Offensive Line / Dysfunctional Coaching Staff Related)
 
[quote=firstdown;629655]I have heard Buges several times before this season and last season saying how strong we where along the O line. That leads me to believe that just maybe Buges could be part of the problem and Cerrato not persuing more lines players based of what Buges is telling him.[/quote]

I could see parting ways with both of them.

53Fan 11-23-2009 01:07 PM

Re: Cerrato's Not (Just) Incompetent - He's Oblivioius (Offensive Line / Dysfunctional Coaching Staff Related)
 
I think the FO believes Buges could make anyone a servicable o-linemen. Why waste draft picks on them? I would like to see the line he puts together with some really talented guys myself.

Trample the Elderly 11-23-2009 01:11 PM

Re: Cerrato's Not (Just) Incompetent - He's Oblivioius (Offensive Line / Dysfunctional Coaching Staff Related)
 
[quote=53Fan;629661]I think the FO believes [B]Buges could make anyone a servicable o-linemen[/B]. Why waste draft picks on them? I would like to see the line he puts together with some really talented guys myself.[/quote]

Perhaps, but that doesn't explain why they didn't get any last year in the draft. Everyone knew we had a glarring need on the O?


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