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duetsch215 12-02-2009 04:42 PM

Skins Future?
 
So with another disappointing about to end and looking back at the past ten years under Mr. Snyder and all of the disappointments throughout his tenure, and despite the few good seasons, when do you see the Redskins returning to prominence?

InsaneBoost 12-02-2009 04:46 PM

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To be honest, after this season, I really think he's going to get his head out of his ass and actual get rid of Cerrato, find a GM and actually get a coach. I think not hiring Greg Williams has taught him a lesson, or hopefully it has.

I said we would start winning in about 5 years, this would have been in 2007 and I think I'll stand by that. Not saying we're going to be Super Bowl contenders, but I feel that we'll have the right tools and should have a QB and an offensive line by then that know the game well.

SmootSmack 12-02-2009 04:51 PM

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Prominence as in winning a Super Bowl?

rbanerjee23 12-02-2009 04:53 PM

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prols 3 years if cerrato leaves after this season

Mattyk 12-02-2009 04:54 PM

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Magic 8 ball says reply hazy, try again

SFREDSKIN 12-02-2009 04:56 PM

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[quote=duetsch215;633242]So with another disappointing about to end and looking back at the past ten years under Mr. Snyder and all of the disappointments throughout his tenure, and despite the few good seasons, when do you see the Redskins returning to prominence?[/quote]

Next year, but only if the OL is addressed, Campbell is brought back, Vinny is whacked and a new GM/coach are hired. These team has a lot of promising young players and a sound defense. Hell, even if Zorn is retained and the OL is fixed I believe we could win.

PennSkinsFan 12-02-2009 05:00 PM

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[B][url=http://dcprosportsreport.com/2009/12/02/riggo-and-posts-sally-jenkins-on-dan-snyder.html]Riggo and Post’s Sally Jenkins on Dan Snyder | DC Pro Sports Report[/url][/B]

Here is John Riggins discussing the future with our ever favorite Sally Jenkins.

Personally, I think heads have to roll. Snyder has a opportunity to make things right that have been wrong for ten years. In a non-capped season, this is a chance to get rid of dead weight contracts like Portis, Randle El, Randy Thomas, and others.

Hire a professional GM. Let the GM hire the HC. Let the HC hire his coaches.

Trade down in the draft. Pick up additional draft picks, go Offensive Line heavy.

CRedskinsRule 12-02-2009 05:01 PM

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Maybe a good discussion, but who can answer with any reality, you will either get a huge dose of "With Snyder we are always failures" or "let's see what happens this off-season". I fall into the latter

mlmdub130 12-02-2009 05:06 PM

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i thought coming in to this season we would be 6-10 and from the looks of things we'll end up 5-10 (oakland and dallas), i think we will improve our record next year and be right around 8-8, but we have a ways to go before we get a nfc divisional championship, that said i think we have about two seasons minimum til we have a 10 win season, i really hope it's sooner though

PennSkinsFan 12-02-2009 05:06 PM

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;633255]Maybe a good discussion, but who can answer with any reality, you will either get a huge dose of "With Snyder we are always failures" or "let's see what happens this off-season". I fall into the latter[/quote]

I fall there as well. We are some of the harshest critics of Snyder, but I hold out hope that this year was humiliating enough that Snyder will pull the trigger on change.

Put it this way CR --- if this year does not bring change, what will it take?

Hog1 12-02-2009 05:07 PM

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Colonel Mustard in Vinnie's office with a flame-thrower........

PennSkinsFan 12-02-2009 05:09 PM

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[quote=mlmdub130;633257]i thought coming in to this season we would be 6-10 and from the looks of things we'll end up 5-10 (oakland and dallas), i think we will improve our record next year and be right around 8-8, but we have a ways to go before we get a nfc divisional championship, that said i think we have about two seasons minimum til we have a 10 win season, i really hope it's sooner though[/quote]

Well, there is no way in hell I can predict. We will likely have a new QB and a new OL. There has to be substantial changes, Snyder said so, so until I see those, saying we will be 10-6 in two years is a stretch. I assume you are saying that based on the status quo? If that is the case, I don't see a winning record in two years.

Chico23231 12-02-2009 05:10 PM

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It can happen rather quickly (2 years) if the team FO goes through a culture change.
1. Vinny is fired and a GM is hired.
2. Dan Snyder gives up all decisions that GMs usually make. No more personal decisions f-ing period.
We can win with DS playing the role of owner rather than football guy. This culture change also revolves around building a team through the draft and not over paying non preforming players...its really not that hard to see that is a fail.

duetsch215 12-02-2009 05:16 PM

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[quote=SmootSmack;633248]Prominence as in winning a Super Bowl?[/quote]

at least in contention like what the colts, steelers, and patriots are right now

CRedskinsRule 12-02-2009 05:38 PM

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[quote=PennSkinsFan;633258]I fall there as well. We are some of the harshest critics of Snyder, but I hold out hope that this year was humiliating enough that Snyder will pull the trigger on change.

Put it this way CR --- if this year does not bring change, what will it take?[/quote]

IF, this year doesn't bring an obvious change - Snyder does the OC 1st-HC 2nd -then GM routine, or Vinny stays as VP of football operations, or the new GM is clearly a shell for Snyder; then we will be a bottom feeder, every year or two trying the new and improved version of the same deep poop. If a season in which you can't compete against the worst teams for 6 straight weeks, doesn't bring change, then nothing will rock Snyder's myopic view.

I don't expect those scenarios to play out. I believe Snyder sees that talent exists, and Vinny did in fact make some good choices, but he also ignored enough obvious issues that he can't remain. I hope that Snyder acknowledges his part, and brings in a real, a la Bill Parcells, football overseer. Someone he can relate to, but also has the full knowledge necessary to put a yearly contender together. I want this season to be over, and to see how the first 2 weeks go. There really should be NO delay in picking a GM from the pool of available candidates.


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