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ChounsMan 10-26-2004 08:58 AM

Who Will You Vote For..?
 
On Nov. 2nd who will you vote for...?

Here's a link to help you in your decision making process.

[url]http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/elections/2004/charting.html[/url]
:grouphug:

Redskins_P 10-26-2004 09:01 AM

I think we all know who Sammy Baugh Fan will vote for. He's made an effort to let all of us know...

Mattyk 10-26-2004 09:33 AM

I have a bad feeling we're going to see more of the same from 2000. Shady activity, people turned away at the polls, etc.

ChounsMan 10-26-2004 09:40 AM

Well, I'm voting for Kerry & not because I like him so much, but because I really HATE Bush & his corrupt connections with the Middle East.

Watch Michael Moores movie F-911 & judge for yourself.....

Mattyk 10-26-2004 10:27 AM

My fiance's uncle was saying the other day he can't understand how someone from his generation can look at Iraq and NOT see Vietnam all over again.

It's depressing as hell to think this idiot could have 4 more years to mess things up.

Gmanc711 10-26-2004 10:39 AM

[QUOTE=Mattyk72]My fiance's uncle was saying the other day he can't understand how someone from his generation can look at Iraq and NOT see Vietnam all over again.

It's depressing as hell to think this idiot could have 4 more years to mess things up.[/QUOTE]

Agreed.

cpayne5 10-26-2004 10:42 AM

First off let's try to keep this thread respectful.

[QUOTE=ChounsMan]Watch Michael Moores movie F-911 & judge for yourself.....[/QUOTE]

Or watch [URL=http://www.fahrenhype911.com]Fahrenhype 9/11[/URL] and get both sides and then judge for yourself. Turns out, you can actually make just as many (if not more) crooked connections between the middle East and Jonh Kerry (and Michael Moore believe it or not!) as you can to Bush. It's not safe to trust *only* Michael Moore's views. Ron Silver (a staunch democrat) said that if he used Michael Moore's own methods and collected enough tape on him, he could make Moore look like an anorexic right-winger. That should tell you right there about the kind of techniques he, as a filmaker, employs.

ChounsMan, I know you have strong personal feelings about this and I respect that, but I don't agree with you, and will be voting for Bush. I voted for him the first time around and will vote for him again. I think that he is the right person to lead this country right now. I do not like all of his social policies, but I am 100% behind his ideas on how to fight terror.

cpayne5 10-26-2004 10:51 AM

[QUOTE=Mattyk72]My fiance's uncle was saying the other day he can't understand how someone from his generation can look at Iraq and NOT see Vietnam all over again.

It's depressing as hell to think this idiot could have 4 more years to mess things up.[/QUOTE]
Vietnam is not the only war that we have faught, and thus more than one history lesson exists. In 1937, the country chose to leave Hitler alone. In 1945 we wished we had gone after him when he was minscule in comparison to what he had become. Saddam Hussein killed hundreds of thousands of, what we consider, his own people. He tortured little kids in front of their parents in order to teach the parents a lesson. He was a bad person and he hated the US. Maybe he had not put the 2 together yet, but it was inevitable. What would you have said if the President had chosen not to go into Iraq and then two months later we were attacked by an Iraqi produce weapon here on our own land? You would have ridiculed Bush because the likes of John Kerry said we must take action.

We must keep the war off our own land, or we will see catostrophic acts that we are not accustomed to seeing here. Maybe we did bring it upon ourselves to a certain extent, but we must now fight it.

SmootSmack 10-26-2004 11:01 AM

I've got news for you folks. The election has already been [URL=http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems/200410/s1227747.htm]decided[/URL]

cpayne5 10-26-2004 11:05 AM

[QUOTE=smootsmack]I've got news for you folks. The election has already been [URL=http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems/200410/s1227747.htm]decided[/URL][/QUOTE]
Haha. You're one of the most easygoing guys on here, and I'm glad when you do stuff like this.

ChounsMan 10-26-2004 11:49 AM

[QUOTE=cpayne5]First off let's try to keep this thread respectful.



Or watch [URL=http://www.fahrenhype911.com]Fahrenhype 9/11[/URL] and get both sides and then judge for yourself. Turns out, you can actually make just as many (if not more) crooked connections between the middle East and Jonh Kerry (and Michael Moore believe it or not!) as you can to Bush. It's not safe to trust *only* Michael Moore's views. Ron Silver (a staunch democrat) said that if he used Michael Moore's own methods and collected enough tape on him, he could make Moore look like an anorexic right-winger. That should tell you right there about the kind of techniques he, as a filmaker, employs.

ChounsMan, I know you have strong personal feelings about this and I respect that, but I don't agree with you, and will be voting for Bush. I voted for him the first time around and will vote for him again. I think that he is the right person to lead this country right now. I do not like all of his social policies, but I am 100% behind his ideas on how to fight terror.[/QUOTE]

1 WORD DESCRIBES YOUR VIEW..... [B]AFFECTED[/B]

You have become affected with what this admin. has fed & breed you to believe & understand.
IRAQ is another Vietnam & this country is going down the !@#$%* because of what & who GW & his Admin. have ties too.
Did you know that GW wanted to go into IRAQ first, but was told it was not the right move initially, so we invaded Afganistan first, just to justify why we wanted IRAQ.... OIL $Trillion$ of dollars worth. We have already taken the oil fields. How sad is this admin. :(

Mattyk 10-26-2004 12:01 PM

It all boils down to $$.

A lot of companies are making HUGE profits off this war, a lot of companies that are tied to this administration in some form. If anyone denies that they are seriously smoking something and I'd love a hit off that delusional stuff. Maybe it would help ease the pain of how blatantly corrupt things are.

I'm not saying Kerry is the answer to everything, but the greed and corruption of this current administration is right in our faces, yet some people choose to look the other way in the name of fighting terror.

This is the exact same thing we delt with in the cold war and the so called "ever present threat of communism".

The fear factor this administration is pushing is criminal, and I really feel sorry for those that buy into it.

ChounsMan 10-26-2004 12:08 PM

[QUOTE]The fear factor this administration is pushing is criminal, and I really feel sorry for those that buy into it.[/QUOTE]

The weak buy into this thought process. It's sooo sad too... :o

Redskins_P 10-26-2004 01:06 PM

[QUOTE=Mattyk72]It all boils down to $$.

A lot of companies are making HUGE profits off this war, a lot of companies that are tied to this administration in some form. If anyone denies that they are seriously smoking something and I'd love a hit off that delusional stuff. Maybe it would help ease the pain of how blatantly corrupt things are.

I'm not saying Kerry is the answer to everything, but the greed and corruption of this current administration is right in our faces, yet some people choose to look the other way in the name of fighting terror.

This is the exact same thing we delt with in the cold war and the so called "ever present threat of communism".

The fear factor this administration is pushing is criminal, and I really feel sorry for those that buy into it.[/QUOTE]

I vote Matty for President.......

Will you finally legalize it if you get elected?

cpayne5 10-26-2004 01:08 PM

[QUOTE=Mattyk72]I'm not saying Kerry is the answer to everything, but the greed and corruption of this current administration is right in our faces, yet some people choose to look the other way in the name of fighting terror.[/QUOTE]

Can you give examples of the greed and corruption?

[QUOTE=Mattyk72]
The fear factor this administration is pushing is criminal, and I really feel sorry for those that buy into it.[/QUOTE]

And also an example of the fear factor, please.


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