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SmootSmack 02-24-2010 11:29 AM

Did Marshall's Actions Get Darrent Williams Killed?
 
[url=http://www.denverpost.com/broncos/ci_14458514]Prosecution: Slain Bronco Darrent Williams was an innocent bystander - The Denver Post[/url]

Wow!

SBXVII 02-24-2010 11:43 AM

Re: Did Marshall's Actions Get Darrent Williams Killed?
 
I read that and didn't put a whole lot of weight on it other then Marshall himself feels like he might have. Lose a friend and you start wondering if anything could have been done differently.

They went to a bar and Marshall got into an arguement with another paytron. These things happen all the time they just don't end up in someone waiting outside the bar with a gun to get revenge. Gotta blame the idiot who shot Williams for not respecting life more vs. blaming Marshall. But I would agree with him I think I would be ready to leave Denver also.

BigHairedAristocrat 02-24-2010 11:48 AM

Re: Did Marshall's Actions Get Darrent Williams Killed?
 
what a bunch of stupid thugs. why on earth would anyone want to go to a club that was frequented by gang members? its like these guys know better than to BE in a gang, but they are enticed by the lifestyle enough that they want to get as close to it as possible. If you play with fire, youre going to get burned.

firstdown 02-24-2010 11:59 AM

Re: Did Marshall's Actions Get Darrent Williams Killed?
 
I just wonder why a bunch of highly paid football players with alot to loose are hanging in a bar filled with gang members? Nothing good can ever come from that and it was all of their choices to stay there and party with the gangs.

skinsfan69 02-24-2010 12:25 PM

Re: Did Marshall's Actions Get Darrent Williams Killed?
 
[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;665699]what a bunch of stupid thugs. why on earth would anyone want to go to a club that was frequented by gang members? its like these guys know better than to BE in a gang, but they are enticed by the lifestyle enough that they want to get as close to it as possible. If you play with fire, youre going to get burned.[/quote]

i was thinking the same thing. why hang out in places that shady people go to...but when i was younger i probably went to places i would never ever go now. we have to remember a lot of these guys are still in their early 20's. it still doesn't give the right for some gang member thug to resolve things w/ a gun.

Pocket$ $traight 02-24-2010 01:25 PM

Re: Did Marshall's Actions Get Darrent Williams Killed?
 
Either way, when you go out to a nightclub you should not expect your limo to be filled with bullets. Even if you get in an altercation with someone and exchange words, you shouldn't be blamed because some coward feels "disrespected" and decides to throw away his life and take another person's life.

For those saying, "They shouldn't have been there", they weren't at the local watering hole in the bad part of town. This was a high profile club and they were hanging out with NBA players inside. It just so happens that some drug dealers (who typically have a lot of cash to spend) were a few feet away.

The last time I checked, clubs don't ask you what your occupation is when you walk in.

Lotus 02-24-2010 01:27 PM

Re: Did Marshall's Actions Get Darrent Williams Killed?
 
[quote=SBXVII;665696]I read that and didn't put a whole lot of weight on it other then Marshall himself feels like he might have. Lose a friend and you start wondering if anything could have been done differently.

They went to a bar and Marshall got into an arguement with another paytron. [B]These things happen all the time they just don't end up in someone waiting outside the bar with a gun to get revenge. Gotta blame the idiot who shot Williams for not respecting life more vs. blaming Marshall. [/B]But I would agree with him I think I would be ready to leave Denver also.[/quote]

True.

skinsfan69 02-24-2010 01:38 PM

Re: Did Marshall's Actions Get Darrent Williams Killed?
 
[quote=Pocket$ $traight;665763]Either way, when you go out to a nightclub you should not expect your limo to be filled with bullets. Even if you get in an altercation with someone and exchange words, you shouldn't be blamed because some coward feels "disrespected" and decides to throw away his life and take another person's life.

For those saying, "They shouldn't have been there", they weren't at the local watering hole in the bad part of town. This was a high profile club and they were hanging out with NBA players inside. It just so happens that some drug dealers (who typically have a lot of cash to spend) were a few feet away.

The last time I checked, clubs don't ask you what your occupation is when you walk in.[/quote]

Very true. But when you're an athlete you simply can't or should not go to certain places. Night clubs and strip clubs are number on the list. What's the old saying...Nothing good happens after midnight. It's kind of sad but it's the world we live in today.

SmootSmack 02-24-2010 01:47 PM

Re: Did Marshall's Actions Get Darrent Williams Killed?
 
Often times, when these guys go to nightclubs they come in and out of secret backdoor entrances, escorted into their own VIP section and are surrounded by a select crowd of people.

I used to (well two or three times) organize parties down in DC featuring local athletes. You know, you've seen the fliers. "Come celebrate Chris Samuels' Birthday Live at Club Ego!! Starring Chris Samuels! With special guests Tre Johnson, Shawn Barber, Jerry Stackhouse, Miguel Tejada!!"

Those guys would go straight to a special VIP lounge. They weren't hanging out with Joe Blow out by the bar.

I mean it doesn't always happen that way, but my point is for most athletes going to a nightclub after midnight is often not the same as it is for you and me.

Which is also why I can't understand why they have to carry guns all the time for their protection. They're protected like no one's business

Slingin Sammy 33 02-24-2010 01:49 PM

Re: Did Marshall's Actions Get Darrent Williams Killed?
 
[quote=skinsfan69;665779]Very true. But when you're an athlete you simply can't or should not go to certain places. Night clubs and strip clubs are number on the list. What's the old saying...Nothing good happens after midnight. It's kind of sad but it's the world we live in today.[/quote]And if they're going to go to either one, have enough sense to call the owner and set up a private area and bring some damn security.

SBXVII 02-24-2010 03:15 PM

Re: Did Marshall's Actions Get Darrent Williams Killed?
 
[quote=Slingin Sammy 33;665788]And if they're going to go to either one, have enough sense to call the owner and set up a private area and bring some damn security.[/quote]

Someone did bring protection.... Mr. Smith and Mr. Wesson. :) I think Buress hired the same guards. lol. sorry.

DIE-NASTY 02-24-2010 05:39 PM

Re: Did Marshall's Actions Get Darrent Williams Killed?
 
[quote=SmootSmack;665787]Often times, when these guys go to nightclubs they come in and out of secret backdoor entrances, escorted into their own VIP section and are surrounded by a select crowd of people.

I used to (well two or three times) organize parties down in DC featuring local athletes. You know, you've seen the fliers. "Come celebrate Chris Samuels' Birthday Live at Club Ego!! Starring Chris Samuels! With special guests Tre Johnson, Shawn Barber, Jerry Stackhouse, Miguel Tejada!!"

Those guys would go straight to a special VIP lounge. They weren't hanging out with Joe Blow out by the bar.

I mean it doesn't always happen that way, but my point is for most athletes going to a nightclub after midnight is often not the same as it is for you and me.

Which is also why I can't understand why they have to carry guns all the time for their protection. They're protected like no one's business[/quote]

I'm sure some of them want to be seen popping champagne, wearing the bling, profiling. I'm sure that's how Cromartie met all his baby mommas.

On a serious note, this is pretty heavy. I'm sure Marshall blames himself for what happened. this tragedy could've been easily avoided.

the ass who shot and killed D. Williams is an idiot and deserves what he doled out. I'm not really one to throw stones (i've never shot anyone or killed anyone for that matter) because I've been known to chin-check a few from time to time if I've been disrespected, taunted or threatened but there's no excuse to take it that level. Whatever happened to the days when the worst thing that could happen is getting your ass whipped?

dirtythirty 02-25-2010 12:47 AM

Re: Did Marshall's Actions Get Darrent Williams Killed?
 
The whole situation is horrible. I dont think you can blame marshall for his murder though. No one deserves to lose their life, especially over a drink at the bar. There are so many stupid gangbangers out there who act without thinking. I hope that scumbag lives the rest of his days in jail. RIP #27.

I do hope that people learn from the situation especially Marshall. Mabey he will grow up one day and stay out of all the "off the field drama"

53Fan 02-25-2010 01:24 AM

Re: Did Marshall's Actions Get Darrent Williams Killed?
 
[quote=DIE-NASTY;665881]I'm sure some of them want to be seen popping champagne, wearing the bling, profiling. I'm sure that's how Cromartie met all his baby mommas.

On a serious note, this is pretty heavy. I'm sure Marshall blames himself for what happened. this tragedy could've been easily avoided.

the ass who shot and killed D. Williams is an idiot and deserves what he doled out. I'm not really one to throw stones (i've never shot anyone or killed anyone for that matter) because I've been known to chin-check a few from time to time if I've been disrespected, taunted or threatened but there's no excuse to take it that level.[B] Whatever happened to the days when the worst thing that could happen is getting your ass whipped[/B]?[/quote]

A gun makes some guys feel 10 feet tall, especially cowards.

Dirtbag59 02-25-2010 01:38 AM

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It's unfortunate that people consider this a way of life.


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