Kevin Barnes sounds ready to step up
 

I like the confidence in his statements. CB's have to be confident!
[QUOTE]“The best thing I did last year is learn how to practice,” Barnes said. “I went out there every day even though I wasn’t sure I was going to play that Sunday and I dominated every day of practice and gave the coaches a fit. That really built my confidence, so once I really got in there, I made a few things happen. I just know that I’m really capable of playing at that level now.”[/QUOTE]

[url=http://blogs.fredericksburg.com/redskinsjournal/2010/03/11/kevin-barnes-expects-much-more-of-himself-in-year-2/]Kevin Barnes expects much more of himself in 2010 - Redskins Journal[/url]

Also, sounds like the FO is getting the message out loud and clear, you want to start/play here, prove it on the field. Great message, great culture change.

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Good to hear. We NEED another CB to step up and push or replace Carlos. Barnes is capable.

Lets just hope we don't draft Jahvid Best...he'll be afraid to practice and we'll have another Portis on our hands. :D

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I think KB has a chance to really shine this year ... now that's Smooty Tang is out he should see plenty of opportunities

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Carlos is confident and he's a dick, Kevin is and it's great.

Fact is, every CB has to be cocky as hell and think they're the best guy in the NFL. Every CB gets beat, it's just how it is -- that attitude is what allows them to bounce back that next play and lock him down. I love the attitude, look forward to seeing him play the nickle this year.

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All I know is he plays pretty well on Madden '10. :)

Good to hear from the second year guy though. Let's hope JH will use the kid to the best of his ability.

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[quote=Daseal;672608]Carlos is confident and he's a dick, Kevin is and it's great.

Fact is, every CB has to be cocky as hell and think they're the best guy in the NFL. Every CB gets beat, it's just how it is -- that attitude is what allows them to bounce back that next play and lock him down. I love the attitude, look forward to seeing him play the nickle this year.[/quote]
If Carlos could catch an INT and not blow assignments, he would be considered a lot less of a dick. If there's true competition at CB this year, unless we bring in a proven FA, Barnes will be a starter before the halfway point of this season.

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[quote=Slingin Sammy 33;672636]If Carlos could catch [B]an INT and not blow assignments, he would be considered a lot less of a dick[/B]. If there's true competition at CB this year, unless we bring in a proven FA, Barnes will be a starter before the halfway point of this season.[/quote]

:laughing-

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[quote=DCtoAZ;672595]I think KB has a chance to really shine this year ... now that's [B]Smooty Tang[/B] is out he should see plenty of opportunities[/quote]

lol!

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Talk is cheap...not looking to seeing him get toasted next season. They better provide him with some safety cover.

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Like the confidence lets see if he can back it up.

HTTR.

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[quote=saden1;672648]Talk is cheap...not looking to seeing him get toasted next season. They better provide him with some safety cover.[/quote]

Agreed. I've heard similar things out of multiple guys that went on to either blow up or be nothing more then average. JP Losman is one that comes to mind right away for me. I also think we heard similar things out of Malcolm Kelly last offseason. Either way I'll wait until I see it on the field, hopefully he's right though.

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I never really liked anything about Kevin Barnes before he got drafted, but this is nice to see. I would love to see any of our guys step up and form a nice corner duo with d hall.

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[quote=Slingin Sammy 33;672636]If Carlos could catch an INT and not blow assignments, he would be considered a lot less of a dick. If there's true competition at CB this year, unless we bring in a proven FA, Barnes will be a starter before the halfway point of this season.[/quote]

Carlos is far and away our best CB. Hall gets INTs, but also gets worked far more than Carlos. Do I wish he caught those balls? Sure. Is he Asoumough (sp?) or Revis? No, he's not. But he's a top 20 corner in the league, in my opinion. His job is to not let the receiver catch the ball, he does that more than not. Blache and Williams are also known for leaving these guys on islands, most DCs help out their corners with safeties, that wasn't our plan most of the time.

I'll call it right now, Carlos doesn't quite get a pro bowl nod, but he's our starting #1 corner all year and has a productive year, including 3INTs.

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[quote=Buster;672589]Good to hear. We NEED another CB to step up and push or replace Carlos. Barnes is capable.

Lets just hope we don't draft Jahvid Best...he'll be afraid to practice and we'll have another Portis on our hands. :D[/quote]

Or maybe another Chris Johnson :)

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I'm rooting for KB now that Smoot won't be stealing his minutes. Remember Blache didn't like rookies, so with them both gone the young players will have an opportunity. Vinny is not here to tell Zorn who to play now.

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[quote=Daseal;672808]Carlos is far and away our best CB. Hall gets INTs, but also gets worked far more than Carlos. Do I wish he caught those balls? Sure. Is he Asoumough (sp?) or Revis? No, he's not. But he's a top 20 corner in the league, in my opinion. His job is to not let the receiver catch the ball, he does that more than not. Blache and Williams are also known for leaving these guys on islands, most DCs help out their corners with safeties, that wasn't our plan most of the time.

I'll call it right now, Carlos doesn't quite get a pro bowl nod, but he's our starting #1 corner all year and has a productive year, including 3INTs.[/quote]I didn't say who Barnes would beat out ;)

I think Rogers, when focused and motivated, is our best corner. I also believe we will be playing more man and the D will be more "here's your assignment, execute" vs. Blache's "if the O is doing this, here's how you react". I also believe Barnes has a great deal of talent and is motivated to break into the line-up. Between Rogers/Hall, one of them will screw up enough to give Barnes his shot. Once he gets it, I think he'll make the most of it.

Also, a lot of things can happen between now and the beginning of the season, Rogers or Hall might not even be here in Sept.

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i would love nothing more than to see him succeed, we dropped a third rounder on him last year so it would be pretty nice to see some productivity out of him this year

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The interesting thing is, because of the structure of guaranteed money in Hall's deal, any sort of transaction in the next two years would be a baseball-style salary dump. Which, in layman's terms, means we're on the hook to pay him the money unless we can find another team who will pay him the same money to take him from us.

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Even considering Hall's weaknesses I can't see the FO dumping him even if it was a no-cost transaction. He's the only "playmaker" CB on the roster at this point. Los' inability to make plays combined w/ the inevitable reality he is now on the downside of doing what he's done best (blanket cover) means he's quickly the odd man out if Barnes steps up. You have to safely assume Barnes will instantly be a better playmaker than Los, because honestly how many CBs out there wear hooves for hands, so as soon as he gets to average coverage ability he's the better starter.

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i'm rooting for him...but he's just another BUST of the zorn era that didn't pan out until he proves me otherwise on the field.

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[quote=tootergray34;672875]i'm rooting for him...but he's just another BUST of the zorn era that didn't pan out until he proves me otherwise on the field.[/quote]

God forbid a 3rd round CB not hit the Pro Bowl his rookie year.

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[quote=artmonkforhallofamein07;672631]All I know is he plays pretty well on Madden '10. :)
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Haha KB's a beast in madden.. especially in 2011 and 2012....

I'd love to see him step up this year, hopefully he'll actually get some playing time now that blache's gone.

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Ya it's easier said than done, but I hope he gets his chance.

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I think he's in a great spot. His rookie year is out of the way and he'll be playing for coaches who like competition at every position. Hopefully he steps up and even if he doesn't start, he pushes Rogers and Hall to play better.

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3rd rounders should be producing...maybe not at a pro bowl level...but still producing...that's called...knowing how to draft...and I hope we learn how to do it real soon.

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[quote=tootergray34;672984]3rd rounders should be producing...maybe not at a pro bowl level...but still producing...that's called...knowing how to draft...and I hope we learn how to do it real soon.[/quote]

I don't think most 3rd rounders are expected to step into a starting role in their rookie season. Especially when you have two unquestioned starters. Combine that with the dysfunction that was the coaching staff last year, and I think KB has every opportunity to step up and step in to a solid season.

I couldn't say that that was a bad draft pick by any means, at least not at this point.

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CB is one of the tougher positions to come right in as a rookie and produce. I think we're going to see a much improved Kevin Barnes this year.

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Last year the coaches did not put anyone in position to make plays on either side of the ball. Moss said when they played the Giants, the second time, that the Giants DBs were calling out the Skins WR routes all game long. He had never seen anything like that. It is not to far fetched that our Defense was as predictable. Our Starters got burned plenty and said that the coaches never adjusted. This kid COULD be really good in a good system.

I hope he steps up to DB#3 and Tryon can be competition for KR/PR.

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[quote=tootergray34;672875]i'm rooting for him...but he's just another BUST of the zorn era that didn't pan out until he proves me otherwise on the field.[/quote]

I don't think you can label a 3rd round draft pick a BUST after one season of limited playing time on a team with veteran players ahead of him on the depth chart. He needs an opportunity to get consistent minutes. Circumstances have changed now and he may get that opportunity this year.

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[quote=Longtimefan;673026]I don't think you can label a 3rd round draft pick a BUST after one season of limited playing time on a team with veteran players ahead of him on the depth chart. He needs an opportunity to get consistent minutes. Circumstances have changed now and he may get that opportunity this year.[/quote]

Agreed. Bust, hell no. Given the oppurtunity to succeed, who knows. If he can step in and contribute solidly as a nickel back, and its not unheard of to come in and contribute solidly right off the bat, (see Chris Horton) so I am interested to see what he brings to the skins in nickel and dime situations.


(Ive actually secretly thought that Horton got really lucky that breakout season and totally inflated his expectations, which was bad for both him and the team. Ive just never thought he was as good as people think he is. I dunno, I just think some ppl are being fickle.)

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[quote=takethecake;672880]Haha KB's a beast in madden.. especially in 2011 and 2012....

I'd love to see him step up this year, hopefully he'll actually get some playing time now that blache's gone.[/quote]

Yeah I play him in the nickel roll and has been able to pic up around 4-5 pics a year in my franchise.

If he could become that player I think we all would love the guy. Of course in video game world I also had JC break the passing touchdown record with like 58 in my 2011 season. The same year Devin Thomas and Marko Mitchell made the probowl, and Portis had somewhere around 1500 yards. So it [B]may [/B]not be an acurate way to break down a players ability.

Also I think the bears offered me a second round pick for Santana Moss with I glady excepted. So in the world of Madden anything is possible.

As far as how KB will play next year in real life against live talented players we will all see.

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I still think Tryon can contribute. Unless the 'best player available' happens to be a CB at the time of selecting, I don't see us drafting one on day one or two.