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CRedskinsRule 04-19-2010 08:53 AM

Mel Kiper's history
 
The Post did a good write up on Mel Kiper:

[url=http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/04/18/AR2010041803075_pf.html]Love him or hate him, Mel Kiper Jr. is Mr. NFL Draft[/url]

I found it very interesting, especially the part where he was out passing out his draft analysis when everyone else was looking for autographs. Talk about finding your passion and making a living out of it!

Longtimefan 04-19-2010 09:03 AM

Re: Mel Kiper's history
 
Recently he made it known he didn't agree with the way we attempt to build our team. His contention is that we can win that way, maybe even reach the playoffs a few times, but A SB and sustained success over a long period of time will be missing.

Mechanix544 04-19-2010 09:17 AM

Re: Mel Kiper's history
 
Kiper blows. interesting article tho......

skinsfan69 04-19-2010 09:21 AM

Re: Mel Kiper's history
 
Kiper is good at what he does. He's passionate and knows his stuff. But IMO is gives a broadcast more credence when you have people that have played, coached or worked in a front office. So to give this guy so much air time makes no sense to me.

Lotus 04-19-2010 09:30 AM

Re: Mel Kiper's history
 
Mel Kiper's history:

1238 BCE large vat of Egyptian olive oil falls on a Nile River beaver pelt, creating the greasy hair
1936 CE the hair correctly predicts that Jay Berwanger will be the first player chosen in the draft
1960 CE a human body called Mel Kiper is born into the pre-existing hair

mredskins 04-19-2010 09:55 AM

Re: Mel Kiper's history
 
If he is so great at picking talent why does no NFL team pick him up? I got to think the guy that is best at picking college talent is on some NFL teams payroll all ready. He is probably some introverted nerd who watches film all day long. Mel knows some stuff about scouting but also has the extroverted skills to be on television as well thus why he is thrown in our faces every year around draft time.

freddyg12 04-19-2010 10:06 AM

Re: Mel Kiper's history
 
[quote=Lotus;689843]Mel Kiper's history:

1238 BCE large vat of Egyptian olive oil falls on a Nile River beaver pelt, creating the greasy hair
1936 CE the hair correctly predicts that Jay Berwanger will be the first player chosen in the draft
1960 CE a human body called Mel Kiper is born into the pre-existing hair[/quote]

lol!

FRPLG 04-19-2010 10:25 AM

Re: Mel Kiper's history
 
It is such an inexact science with so many variables that no one can be as good as what we all probably envision as "good". I'd guess the best, absolute best, talent evaluators "miss" close to 50% of the time. The amount of work he puts into it and his breadth of knowledge of the players simply cannot be ignored.

SmootSmack 04-19-2010 12:33 PM

Re: Mel Kiper's history
 
[quote=FRPLG;689864]It is such an inexact science with so many variables that no one can be as good as what we all probably envision as "good". I'd guess the best, absolute best, talent evaluators "miss" close to 50% of the time. The amount of work he puts into it and his breadth of knowledge of the players simply cannot be ignored.[/quote]

It's like baseball batting averages. The best, absolute best, actually miss close to 70% of the time.

jdc65 04-19-2010 12:59 PM

Re: Mel Kiper's history
 
I would presume that Kiper makes a whole lot more money doing what he's doing now than working for an NFL team. He does private consulting, has a paid subscription service, is a TV talking head, gets paid speaking engagements and endorsements, and he has his own brand.
No reason for him to take a back seat, a pay cut, and work for any team.

celts32 04-19-2010 01:00 PM

Re: Mel Kiper's history
 
Just throwing in my 2 cents since this thread is going to be filled with people bashing Mel. I love him. I could listen to him talk about football players every day. He is the original and great at what he does. If everyone was as passionate about thier job as Mel is the world would be a much better place.

And there are plenty of people that know football that for whatever reason are not working for an NFL team. I don't know if he would have the overall administrative skills to run an entire football organization but he is more then qualified to be a college scout for an NFL team if he wanted to be. Get his book and read it before deciding he sucks...it's amazing...he doesn't just throw up a half assed list of players...he has researched these guys and knows them like the back of his hand. he details the needs of every team...he even has lists of players to watch out for in the next 2 drafts. If you don't like the way he talks or his hair thats fine...but the guy does his homework.

tryfuhl 04-20-2010 11:15 PM

Re: Mel Kiper's history
 
[quote=SmootSmack;689939]It's like baseball batting averages. The best, absolute best, actually miss close to 70% of the time.[/quote]
Yep.. even weathermen can't predict it 100%

GMScud 04-21-2010 02:01 AM

Re: Mel Kiper's history
 
[quote=celts32;689950]Just throwing in my 2 cents since this thread is going to be filled with people bashing Mel. I love him. I could listen to him talk about football players every day. He is the original and great at what he does. If everyone was as passionate about thier job as Mel is the world would be a much better place.

And there are plenty of people that know football that for whatever reason are not working for an NFL team. I don't know if he would have the overall administrative skills to run an entire football organization but he is more then qualified to be a college scout for an NFL team if he wanted to be. Get his book and read it before deciding he sucks...it's amazing...he doesn't just throw up a half assed list of players...he has researched these guys and knows them like the back of his hand. he details the needs of every team...he even has lists of players to watch out for in the next 2 drafts. If you don't like the way he talks or his hair thats fine...but the guy does his homework.[/quote]

Good post, and I agree. I didn't read the article, but I think I heard he and his wife basically run their business themselves, and work out of their home in Baltimore mostly. I could be dead wrong, but I think I remember a friend telling me that.

Anyway, he's a solid analyst, and does a great job. I can't stand the way his hair looks, but whatever. That's irrelevant to why I like to listen to him do his breakdowns.

That said, I do like McShay as well. ESPN is lucky to have both of them. Mike Mayock is a beast in his own right for NFLN. I actually really like all three. If I had to rank them, I'd go Mayock, Kiper, McShay (Mayock's lisp kills me, but it's getting better. Maybe he's taking speech classes or something. But like Kiper's hair, it's irrelevant to why I like his work).

tootergray34 04-21-2010 02:58 AM

Re: Mel Kiper's history
 
[quote=mredskins;689849]If he is so great at picking talent why does no NFL team pick him up? I got to think the guy that is best at picking college talent is on some NFL teams payroll all ready. He is probably some introverted nerd who watches film all day long. Mel knows some stuff about scouting but also has the extroverted skills to be on television as well thus why he is thrown in our faces every year around draft time.[/quote]

I've Always wondered this myself. Perhaps ESPN is paying him pretty well? Or maybe Todd McShay is grooming to be his succesor?


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