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SolidSnake84 04-28-2010 10:50 AM

Is anyone going to see the new Nightmare on Elm Street tomorrow?
 
this was one of my fav's growing up, but i hated how it got so corny and stupid after part 1. I hope they return it to being true horror and not senseless gore. Trailer looks promising...

Me and my wife are going tomorrow night....i hate appleblossom and need to get away from it for one night...

Monkeydad 04-28-2010 11:00 AM

Re: Is anyone going to see the new Nightmare on Elm Street tomorrow?
 
Nope.

mredskins 04-28-2010 11:06 AM

Re: Is anyone going to see the new Nightmare on Elm Street tomorrow?
 
Movie thread?

Any who I will see it maybe not this weekend but soon, waiting on reviews. The Friday the 13th remake was just plain awful.

MTK 04-28-2010 01:31 PM

Re: Is anyone going to see the new Nightmare on Elm Street tomorrow?
 
Probably not.

And my probably not I mean definitely not.

SolidSnake84 04-28-2010 01:42 PM

Re: Is anyone going to see the new Nightmare on Elm Street tomorrow?
 
i was just asking as i see that many of us here grew up in the 1980's, but i wasnt sure how many people were fans of the series....

Monkeydad 04-28-2010 02:04 PM

Re: Is anyone going to see the new Nightmare on Elm Street tomorrow?
 
I'm typically not a fan of remakes.

MonkFan4Life 04-28-2010 02:33 PM

Re: Is anyone going to see the new Nightmare on Elm Street tomorrow?
 
True fan of the series and I intend on seeing it when it comes out. Enjoyed the Friday the 13th remake, wasn't a classic by far but good. This one looks promising.

tryfuhl 04-28-2010 03:01 PM

Re: Is anyone going to see the new Nightmare on Elm Street tomorrow?
 
I've never seen any of the jason, freddy, halloween, pscyo etc whoever movies, don't really plan on changing that anytime soon.

mredskins 04-29-2010 02:51 PM

Re: Is anyone going to see the new Nightmare on Elm Street tomorrow?
 
So NOES is holding currently at 00% on Rotten Tomatoes, very impressive.

[url=http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/nightmare_on_elm_street_2010/]A Nightmare on Elm Street Movie Reviews, Trailers - Rotten Tomatoes[/url]

MTK 04-29-2010 02:54 PM

Re: Is anyone going to see the new Nightmare on Elm Street tomorrow?
 
[quote=mredskins;696735]So NOES is holding currently at 00% on Rotten Tomatoes, very impressive.

[URL="http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/nightmare_on_elm_street_2010/"]A Nightmare on Elm Street Movie Reviews, Trailers - Rotten Tomatoes[/URL][/quote]

lol jeez I figured it would be bad but 0%?!

mredskins 04-29-2010 03:16 PM

Re: Is anyone going to see the new Nightmare on Elm Street tomorrow?
 
[quote=Mattyk;696736]lol jeez I figured it would be bad but 0%?![/quote]


I know 0% takes some work.

Riggo44 04-29-2010 03:46 PM

Re: Is anyone going to see the new Nightmare on Elm Street tomorrow?
 
The first one scared me pretty good when I was in 5th grade but after part 3 I stopped watching them. The trailers do look kind of cool so I'll probably catch it when it comes out on DVD in a month or two.

tryfuhl 04-30-2010 12:26 AM

Re: Is anyone going to see the new Nightmare on Elm Street tomorrow?
 
12 %

Reviews Counted:33

Fresh:4

Rotten:29

Average Rating:3.8/10

Consensus: Visually faithful but lacking the depth and subversive twists that made the original so memorable, the Nightmare on Elm Street remake lives up to its title in the worst possible way.

itvnetop 04-30-2010 12:55 AM

Re: Is anyone going to see the new Nightmare on Elm Street tomorrow?
 
I will just because I'm a horror freak. Even though it may suck.

mredskins 04-30-2010 08:12 AM

Re: Is anyone going to see the new Nightmare on Elm Street tomorrow?
 
[quote=tryfuhl;696935]12 %

Reviews Counted:33

Fresh:4

Rotten:29

Average Rating:3.8/10

Consensus: Visually faithful but lacking the depth and subversive twists that made the original so memorable, the Nightmare on Elm Street remake lives up to its title in the worst possible way.[/quote]


IT was at 0%, I guess four horror web sites finally reviewed it.

mredskins 04-30-2010 08:13 AM

Re: Is anyone going to see the new Nightmare on Elm Street tomorrow?
 
BDK review from the Junkies he gave it two stars.

A Nighmare On Elm Street is cookie-cutter horror at its best and its best just isn't good enough. The film is neither scary nor frightening in the least but does deliver a fine performance by Jackie Earle Haley. We have all been saying for years that Hollywood is out of ideas, hence the constant remakes, reboots, robots or whatever we are calling these things. A Nightmare on Elm Street was actually a film I was looking forward to seeing considering one of my favorite actors was playing Freddy. Jackie Earle Haley is easily one of the most underrated actors in Hollywood, with scene stealing performances where he can be both fragile and bad-ass at the exact same time. He blew me away as Rorshach in Watchmen and then again as George Noyce in my favorite film of 2010 so far, Shutter Island. Now he's taking on one of the most iconic horror characters of all time. Robert Englund will never be able to walk down the street without people calling him Freddy. That role was a gift and a curse because anytime he is in a film nowadays, you think of Freddy. Filling those shoes is a pretty big deal and I thought that Jackie Earle Haley nailed the part but the rest of the film needs major surgery.

A Nightmare on Elm Street relies heavily on trying to scare you and trying to make you laugh. I am all for the funny version of Freddy Krueger. When mixed with the sick twisted and brutal Freddy, you get the perfect horror icon. Now, Jackie Earle Haley does a good enough job at getting those two aspects across but the movie ultimately fails in scaring its audience. The scares were very cookie-cutter and felt too predictable. You could almost predict every move Freddy would make, which has nothing to do with the performance of Earle Haley but more to do with the script and direction. His one liners kept the movie afloat, at least.

I would compare the character of Freddy to Arnold Schwarzenegger. Crazy, you say? Well, here me out. In all of Arnold's classic films like Commando, Predator, Terminator 2: Judgement Day, he is known for delivering great action scenes with his cheesy one liners. Freddy is known for delivering his ultra-violence and his cheesy one liners. Movies like Predator and Commando perfectly balance out that line of funny and serious with the action. This new Freddy film failed to engage its audience in any tension, making the movie feel flat. The only thing the movie really has going for it is its performance from Jackie Earle Haley, the score and a couple of the death scenes. One of the major issues of the movie was how flat the cast was. Every character in the movie felt bland and unoriginal. Whether it be the possible love interests of Nancy (Rooney Mara Youth in Revolt) and Quentin (Kyle Gallner Jennifer's Body) or any other character. It just didn't work.

One of my favorite aspects of the film were the sound effects and film score. Freddy's main theme was rather brutal and worked perfectly for the dream sequences. The opening credits film score was also very nice to listen to though when are films going to start realizing that audiences don't want three to four minutes of film credits before a movie starts. Heck, Avatar didn't even have credits at the beginning and that's the highest grossing film of all time. When it comes to sound effects, the loud sounds of bass rattling through the theatre worked really well for effect. Also, the sound effects of Freddy's knife fingers going against metal pipes as the sparks start to fly was pretty cool to listen to. I looked forward to those scenes because the sounds could have been cringe worthy but ended up working to the film's advantage.

The film opens and we meet a character named Dean (played by Twilight star Kellan Lutz). Dean is having a hard time going to sleep considering a creepy man with a red sweater and knives for fingers keeps chasing him. He finally starts to think it's weird when he wakes up sitting in a diner and his hand had been cut wide open. Dean's friend Kris (played by Katie Cassidy) comes to visit him but gets up to use the restroom only to get back to see Dean cutting his own throat (which was one of the more brutal scenes of the film). At least that's what it appeared to be. We the audience know that Mr. Freddy Krueger was doing the dirty work. Like every Freddy movie, he is terrorizing teenagers in their sleep. There is nothing scarier than the idea of not being able to go sleep, hence the reason there have now been nine films featuring the character of Freddy Krueger.

As other teenagers start to die off, the two lead characters of the film Nancy and Quentin start to figure out the past of Freddy (Jackie Earle Haley). What is making him want to kill them in their sleep? As Nancy and Quentin start to piece clues together, they begin realizing that all of the kids dying are connected back to a Pre-school somehow (Following the exact story line as the original). I don't want to give anything away but Freddy is really angry at these kids and has come back to kill them now that they are in high school. Since Freddy has been forgotten, he needs to instill fear to "refuel" his killing spree. The question is whether or not Nancy and Quentin can stop him before he kills them both. The film does explore a bit of Freddy as a normal human being working as a gardener at a Pre-school. I almost wish we got to see more of the human Freddy before he turned. That's interesting and adds depth to his character.

For those of you not familiar with Freddy Krueger, anytime a character falls asleep, they are taken to an alternate world where Freddy can totally mess with them. In this world, the character is subject to Freddy's torture and brutality. If the character dies in Freddy's world, he/she dies in real life. Therefore, they are forced to stay awake as long as possible but once you reach three days of no sleep, your body will start to experience micro naps, in which you can dream while you are still awake. The concept is great but it's all in the execution. I will say the use of micro naps during a scene that takes place in a pharmacy was phenomenal. It keeps cutting back and forth to Freddy's world and the real world. I wish there were more scenes like that in the film.

The ultimate question that everyone wants to know is whether or not Jackie Earle Haley is better than Robert Englund. The short answer is no because Englund has eight films behind him (if you count the awesome Freddy Vs. Jason). Haley still has to prove himself but he did embrace the sickness of the character well. The make-up effects were amazing and you could tell that Haley completely transformed into Freddy. He just needed to be scarier. The problem is that we are used to all of these scares and they feel old.

A Nightmare on Elm Street brings absolutely nothing new to the franchise. Is the film bad? I wouldn't go that far because it does deliver some great one-liners, a good performance from Haley and some great kill scenes. Though, as a horror film, the scares are not there. I was hoping for a really scary horror movie considering the material we are dealing with. It just went down the normal horror route with cheap predictable scares. The film deserves a 2.5 BDK rating out of 5. If you go in with low expectations, you should be fine but just don't set the bar too high. My co-host Josh and I said before the movie started that the film wouldn't be bad because of Jackie Earle Haley but because of the script. It turns out we were right.

MTK 04-30-2010 08:20 AM

Re: Is anyone going to see the new Nightmare on Elm Street tomorrow?
 
Hollywood needs to chill out with the remakes.

mredskins 04-30-2010 08:34 AM

Re: Is anyone going to see the new Nightmare on Elm Street tomorrow?
 
[quote=Mattyk;696980]Hollywood needs to chill out with the remakes.[/quote]


Agreed but some have been done well. Texas Chainsaw the remake was an awesome movie, I would say better then the original. Even Amityville Horror was also well done.

So it can work but generally it fails.

This had potential to really scary the F out of us but they decide to go down the campy horror film road.

SolidSnake84 04-30-2010 09:06 AM

Re: Is anyone going to see the new Nightmare on Elm Street tomorrow?
 
Damn man, i had no idea it was so bad....haven't been yet....and now i dont even know if i will go.

mredskins 04-30-2010 09:16 AM

Re: Is anyone going to see the new Nightmare on Elm Street tomorrow?
 
[quote=SolidSnake84;696987]Damn man, i had no idea it was so bad....haven't been yet....and now i dont even know if i will go.[/quote]


Seriously you are surprised?

SolidSnake84 04-30-2010 09:56 AM

Re: Is anyone going to see the new Nightmare on Elm Street tomorrow?
 
[quote=mredskins;696990]Seriously you are surprised?[/quote]

I remember the original movie (1980) being scary, and psychological. I remember the sequels being pure corny shit-fests.

For months i've been reading Fangoria and hearing people talk it up, how the remake was going to put the franchise back to its roots, and after hearing Robert Englund (original Freddy) give Jackie his endorseent as the new Freddy, i was stoked.

They have 2 sequels on the way according to Jackie Earle Haley, so maybe they will get it right...i'm just kind of blah....

mredskins 04-30-2010 10:33 AM

Re: Is anyone going to see the new Nightmare on Elm Street tomorrow?
 
[quote=SolidSnake84;696999]I remember the original movie (1980) being scary, and psychological. I remember the sequels being pure corny shit-fests.

For months i've been reading Fangoria and hearing people talk it up, how the remake was going to put the franchise back to its roots, and after hearing Robert Englund (original Freddy) give Jackie his endorseent as the new Freddy, i was stoked.

They have 2 sequels on the way according to Jackie Earle Haley, so maybe they will get it right...i'm just kind of blah....[/quote]


I read that as well and I was a bit stoked.

NOES the first was scary as crap then the franchise became like horomedy or campy if you will, apparently this film impressed the campy part.

saden1 04-30-2010 11:01 AM

Re: Is anyone going to see the new Nightmare on Elm Street tomorrow?
 
I'm too old to watch these silly-stupid teen movies.

SolidSnake84 05-03-2010 12:53 PM

Re: Is anyone going to see the new Nightmare on Elm Street tomorrow?
 
Okay i did go watch it on Saturday. I enjoyed it. I wasn't blown away, but i wasnt expecting to be. I think people's major complaint is that Freddy isnt played by Robert Englund. The movie was a faithful remake, so of course people knew what to expect...

For my whole life time when somebody says Freddy, i think of Robert Englund. It will take some time for me to get used to seeing someone else play the role...

That being said, i did find Jackie to be much more scary, instead of just a wise-cracking prankster...

dblanch66 05-03-2010 01:00 PM

Re: Is anyone going to see the new Nightmare on Elm Street tomorrow?
 
[quote=Mattyk;696980]Hollywood needs to chill out with the remakes.[/quote]

They won't though. It's cheaper and easier to re-hash some old idea and try to squeeze as much money out of the gullible, uninformed general public. Originality, imagination and innovation are sorely lacking in the film business except in foreign countries where they still care about script, character development, mood and theme. Of course there are exceptions but generally, most movies out of hollywood suck. Most of my favorites over the last few years have been films like Pan's Labyrinth, the Orphanage, 3 Times and a slew of other foreign films.

mredskins 05-03-2010 01:15 PM

Re: Is anyone going to see the new Nightmare on Elm Street tomorrow?
 
[quote=dblanch66;697675]They won't though. It's cheaper and easier to re-hash some old idea and try to squeeze as much money out of the gullible, uninformed general public. Originality, imagination and innovation are sorely lacking in the film business except in foreign countries where they still care about script, character development, mood and theme. Of course there are exceptions but generally, most movies out of hollywood suck. Most of my favorites over the last few years have been films like Pan's Labyrinth, the Orphanage, 3 Times and a slew of other foreign films.[/quote]


don't forget "Let the Right One In"

mredskins 05-03-2010 01:36 PM

Re: Is anyone going to see the new Nightmare on Elm Street tomorrow?
 
[quote=Mattyk;696980]Hollywood needs to chill out with the remakes.[/quote]


Never will happen if we keep going to see them.

NOES cost $30 million to make and made over $30 million in the first weekend.

[url=http://www.huffingtonpost.com/scott-mendelson/nightmare-on-elm-street-r_b_561064.html]Scott Mendelson: Nightmare on Elm Street remake easily takes box office crown. Weekend box office for 05/03/10[/url]

itvnetop 05-03-2010 06:17 PM

Re: Is anyone going to see the new Nightmare on Elm Street tomorrow?
 
[quote=mredskins;697689]don't forget "Let the Right One In"[/quote]

Which they're also remaking haha.

I can't believe they're also remaking The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo and OldBoy. Read freakin' subtitles people!

Trample the Elderly 05-03-2010 06:39 PM

Re: Is anyone going to see the new Nightmare on Elm Street tomorrow?
 
You got the body. I got the brain!

Nomad 05-03-2010 08:49 PM

Re: Is anyone going to see the new Nightmare on Elm Street tomorrow?
 
Bootleg baby

Nomad 05-03-2010 08:51 PM

Re: Is anyone going to see the new Nightmare on Elm Street tomorrow?
 
[quote=Mattyk;696980]Hollywood needs to chill out with the remakes.[/quote]

Naw I'm betting that new Karate Kid be better and more to modern fighting..... Plus Will Smith Son is a pretty good actor.

MonkFan4Life 05-04-2010 12:35 AM

Re: Is anyone going to see the new Nightmare on Elm Street tomorrow?
 
Well I saw A Nightmare On Elm Street today and it was actually a good movie. I like the changes that they made to the story or origin of the story. I can understand BDK's review of the movie but he really takes movies too seriously at times. He is extra critical when it comes to movies, moving for the more artistic value of acting/movies and ignoring the fun factor some times. The one problem that comes with remakes is that the new movie is always going to be compared to the older/classic version. Nostalgia plays a big part as well because if you look back at some of the older versions and critique them as harshly as the remakes then they would seem pretty lame.

Jackie did a good jobn of creating his own Fred Kruger while still utilizing some of nuances that made Robert Englunds' such an iconic figure. For instace the way that he flicls his finger scraping the razors against eachother as opposed to relying on the high pitch screech that Engluds did. I like how he seemed to be a guy with very bad intentions. Now of course the typical fan will point out the original Freddy comedic traits. We must remember that Freddy didn't really get into the joke telling until part III at the earliest. He was much more sadistic in the first one. A sociopath bent on revenge because he had been murdered by the Elm street parents. Now the acting is comical at times. There are points where there is supposed to be some kind of emotion shown but it just isn't there. However, if you can watch 65% of the crap that is put out now a days then you can live with this. They have some pretty good kill scenes as well. One kill he tells a guy how the human brain can live on for 8 minutes and how he has 7 left to play with him. Beautiful. The movie flows pretty well, the micro-naps playswell also. If you remember the end of the original where Nancy's mom is pulled through the door by Freddy in the end. The mother get's pulled back in this one as well but it's different and better in my opinion.

It's not a 12:00am opening night kind of movie but you can go see it but if you can get a good copy then save some of your money. Nice movie.

MTK 05-04-2010 06:42 AM

Re: Is anyone going to see the new Nightmare on Elm Street tomorrow?
 
[quote=Nomad;697878]Naw I'm betting that new Karate Kid be better and more to modern fighting..... Plus Will Smith Son is a pretty good actor.[/quote]

I rest my case.

mredskins 05-04-2010 08:10 AM

Re: Is anyone going to see the new Nightmare on Elm Street tomorrow?
 
[quote=MonkFan4Life;697967]Well I saw A Nightmare On Elm Street today and it was actually a good movie. I like the changes that they made to the story or origin of the story. I can understand BDK's review of the movie but he really takes movies too seriously at times. He is extra critical when it comes to movies, moving for the more artistic value of acting/movies and ignoring the fun factor some times. The one problem that comes with remakes is that the new movie is always going to be compared to the older/classic version. Nostalgia plays a big part as well because if you look back at some of the older versions and critique them as harshly as the remakes then they would seem pretty lame.

Jackie did a good jobn of creating his own Fred Kruger while still utilizing some of nuances that made Robert Englunds' such an iconic figure. For instace the way that he flicls his finger scraping the razors against eachother as opposed to relying on the high pitch screech that Engluds did. I like how he seemed to be a guy with very bad intentions. Now of course the typical fan will point out the original Freddy comedic traits. We must remember that Freddy didn't really get into the joke telling until part III at the earliest. He was much more sadistic in the first one. A sociopath bent on revenge because he had been murdered by the Elm street parents. Now the acting is comical at times. There are points where there is supposed to be some kind of emotion shown but it just isn't there. However, if you can watch 65% of the crap that is put out now a days then you can live with this. They have some pretty good kill scenes as well. One kill he tells a guy how the human brain can live on for 8 minutes and how he has 7 left to play with him. Beautiful. The movie flows pretty well, the micro-naps playswell also. If you remember the end of the original where Nancy's mom is pulled through the door by Freddy in the end. The mother get's pulled back in this one as well but it's different and better in my opinion.

It's not a 12:00am opening night kind of movie but you can go see it but if you can get a good copy then save some of your money. Nice movie.[/quote]


Gee thanks for the spoiler free review, jack ass!

dblanch66 05-04-2010 10:44 AM

Re: Is anyone going to see the new Nightmare on Elm Street tomorrow?
 
[quote=MonkFan4Life;697967]Well I saw A Nightmare On Elm Street today and it was actually a good movie. I like the changes that they made to the story or origin of the story. I can understand BDK's review of the movie but he really takes movies too seriously at times. He is extra critical when it comes to movies, moving for the more artistic value of acting/movies and ignoring the fun factor some times. The one problem that comes with remakes is that the new movie is always going to be compared to the older/classic version. Nostalgia plays a big part as well because if you look back at some of the older versions and critique them as harshly as the remakes then they would seem pretty lame.

Jackie did a good jobn of creating his own Fred Kruger while still utilizing some of nuances that made Robert Englunds' such an iconic figure. For instace the way that he flicls his finger scraping the razors against eachother as opposed to relying on the high pitch screech that Engluds did. I like how he seemed to be a guy with very bad intentions. Now of course the typical fan will point out the original Freddy comedic traits. We must remember that Freddy didn't really get into the joke telling until part III at the earliest. He was much more sadistic in the first one. A sociopath bent on revenge because he had been murdered by the Elm street parents. Now the acting is comical at times. There are points where there is supposed to be some kind of emotion shown but it just isn't there. However, if you can watch 65% of the crap that is put out now a days then you can live with this. They have some pretty good kill scenes as well. One kill he tells a guy how the human brain can live on for 8 minutes and how he has 7 left to play with him. Beautiful. The movie flows pretty well, the micro-naps playswell also. If you remember the end of the original where Nancy's mom is pulled through the door by Freddy in the end. The mother get's pulled back in this one as well but it's different and better in my opinion.

It's not a 12:00am opening night kind of movie but you can go see it but if you can get a good copy then save some of your money. Nice movie.[/quote]

drivel.


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