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SmootSmack 06-02-2010 10:07 PM

Umpire's Gaffe Costs Tigers' Pitcher Perfect Game
 
Damn shame

[url=http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/recap?gameId=300602106]Cleveland Indians vs. Detroit Tigers - Recap - June 02, 2010 - ESPN[/url]

on a related note, potentially three perfect games in one season (and it's only the first week of June)! Crazy

mooby 06-02-2010 10:18 PM

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Yeah read about that. Between the blown call last night in the Nats v. Astros game where Matt Capps got a blown save because the official ruled Berkman had a checked swing and the next throw Berkman had a two run walkoff single, and this guy ruining a perfect game (I looked at the pics and it definitely looks like he's out to me) I'm getting tired of officials messing up the game.

djnemo65 06-02-2010 10:33 PM

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This has got to be the umpire equivalent of dropping a fly-ball in the World Series. Almost feel bad for the dope.

SmootSmack 06-03-2010 07:30 AM

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Mistakes happen though. It sucks, but props to the umpire for owning up to it and admitting his mistake and to Galarraga for his accomplishment and dignity afterward

FRPLG 06-03-2010 08:39 AM

Re: Umpire's Gaffe Costs Tigers' Pitcher Perfect Game
 
[quote=mooby;704580]Yeah read about that. Between the blown call last night in the Nats v. Astros game where Matt Capps got a blown save because the official ruled Berkman had a checked swing and the next throw Berkman had a two run walkoff single, and this guy ruining a perfect game (I looked at the pics and it definitely looks like he's out to me) I'm getting tired of officials messing up the game.[/quote]

Yeah well the Nats lost that game too. So that actually ended meaning something in the long run. What an asstastic call that was. If that isn't a swinging strike I don't know what is. Hell the plate ump should have called it.

Monkeydad 06-03-2010 10:48 AM

Re: Umpire's Gaffe Costs Tigers' Pitcher Perfect Game
 
Umps have been having a bad month, from Joe West turning the White Sox/Rays game into a circus act featuring himself and then screwing up in the Jays/Rays game a week later to many other bad calls...now this?

Joe West just needs to be suspended for trying to promote himself (separate issue) , but this latest bad call should finally be the straw that breaks the Commissioner's back regarding instant replay. Even if they allow limited challenges like the NFL, they could save games and umpire's reputations.

There are prominent umpires in favor of it. Selig seems to be the only one blocking it.

InsaneBoost 06-03-2010 11:33 AM

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As I said before, the MLB needs to start fining umps when they do things like this. I can understand bang-bang plays because face it, those are hard to tell and human error can come into play on that.

When you have clear outs, such as the out last night in the game, the guy swinging across home plate by a good foot and called no swing, players being tagged before hitting the base and being ruled safe, I think something needs to be done and I only see fines being a reasonable choice.

The Nationals have lost a good 8 games because of the umping this season.

CRedskinsRule 06-03-2010 11:44 AM

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Not much of a baseball fan, but would this work?

JPosnanski

Interesting thought by reader: Bud's not changing Galarraga call. But what about changing score from H to E to at restore no-hitter? 3 minutes ago via web

Monkeydad 06-03-2010 01:46 PM

Re: Umpire's Gaffe Costs Tigers' Pitcher Perfect Game
 
I just made this.

[img]http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/283/tigers.gif[/img]

Reaction to blown call in perfect game.

over the mountain 06-03-2010 02:12 PM

Re: Umpire's Gaffe Costs Tigers' Pitcher Perfect Game
 
[quote=mooby;704580]Yeah read about that. Between the blown call last night in the Nats v. Astros game where Matt Capps got a blown save because the official ruled Berkman had a checked swing and the next throw Berkman had a two run walkoff single, and this guy ruining a perfect game (I looked at the pics and it definitely looks like he's out to me) I'm getting tired of officials messing up the game.[/quote]

well i havent seen a replay of berkmans check swing but there is no set written rule of what is considered a swing. i believe that the standard is "whether the player offered at the pitch". i always thought it was if you bat gets square to home plate.

insaneboost - over 162 games, bad ump calls get evened out by the end of the season.

i feel real bad for jim joyce. galaraga or however you spell his name had a very respectful response and reaction. kudos to him.

changing the play from a hit to an error is a damn interesting solution. novel and unique.

Smooter 06-03-2010 02:16 PM

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[quote=Buster;704718]I just made this.

[img]http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/283/tigers.gif[/img]

Reaction to blown call in perfect game.[/quote]

I don't know whats funnier, his reaction changing or the nut grab.

Mattyk 06-03-2010 02:25 PM

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I like the way everyone has handled themselves in this. Nobody is crying foul, the ump owned up to his mistake, I think there's some valuable lessons to be learned in all of this. It's a game played by humans, umped by humans, etc. Mistakes are gonna happen. It's sucks that a mistake happened in such a crucial time no doubt, but that's life.

tryfuhl 06-03-2010 02:28 PM

Re: Umpire's Gaffe Costs Tigers' Pitcher Perfect Game
 
[quote=InsaneBoost;704672]As I said before, the MLB needs to start fining umps when they do things like this. I can understand bang-bang plays because face it, those are hard to tell and human error can come into play on that.

When you have clear outs, such as the out last night in the game, the guy swinging across home plate by a good foot and called no swing, players being tagged before hitting the base and being ruled safe, I think something needs to be done and I only see fines being a reasonable choice.

The Nationals have lost a good 8 games because of the umping this season.[/quote]
I agree. Players are held accountable for their performances and so should officials. Replay needs to be enacted in more cases in baseball as well. As slow as the pace is they could easily check it on replay before the next pitch would be thrown anyways in most cases.

over the mountain 06-03-2010 03:00 PM

Re: Umpire's Gaffe Costs Tigers' Pitcher Perfect Game
 
heard a story coming in to work today. apparently an ump admitted that during a world series game back in the day he widened the strike zone for henson (idk i forgot the pitcher) b/c he wanted to see henson pitch a perfect game in the WS. now thats some BS.

this, man, joyce must feel horrible.

reminds me of the WS last year where a player was called out at 2nd but the damn yankee player never had his foot on 2nd base. surprised that play didnt make mlb intoduce replay to plays outside of fair or foul. this play certainly should.

CRedskinsRule 06-03-2010 03:17 PM

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did I mention I hate baseball:

Adam_Schefter

Baseball commissioner Bud Selig said he will not change the umpire's call, it will not be a perfect game, live with it. Baseball. 10 minutes ago via web


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