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CRedskinsRule 07-19-2010 01:28 PM

Washingto Post - Top Secret America
Conspiracy Theorists Unite!

[url=http://projects.washingtonpost.com/top-secret-america/]Top Secret America | washingtonpost.com[/url]

Seriously, anyone who can read this and not shake their heads at some aspect of it is an amazing person.

At one point, one of the "Super Users" -those few who know "all" the details, stopped his intake briefing because there was no way he could remember it all.
[QUOTE]The other recounted that for his initial briefing, he was escorted into a tiny, dark room, seated at a small table and told he couldn't take notes. Program after program began flashing on a screen, he said, until he yelled ''Stop!" in frustration.[/QUOTE]

tryfuhl 07-19-2010 01:35 PM

Re: Washingto Post - Top Secret America
I would hesitate to cast this upon conspiracy theorists. For all that we know about govt operations there's a great deal that we also do not know and they intend to keep it that way for better or worse. I heard about the article this morning and will read it shortly.

I mean it doesn't scream watch out for big brother or this or that but at the same time anybody from this area knows people with TS and has heard things that maybe they shouldn't have. The permeation into mainstream society from this vast amount of contracted offerings is pretty well evident. It's an issue with national security as well as covering up things that have happened I'm sure.

Trample the Elderly 07-19-2010 01:37 PM

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I'm not interested in conspiracy theories, only the facts of the conspiracies.

saden1 07-19-2010 02:35 PM

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Way beyond shaking your head and into the realm of pure anger. Price we pay the illusion of safety and people are apparently willing to pay it. We're the best...raw raw...go America...let's get them terrorist.

It's amazing how we have effectively replaced Communism and the red scare with terrorism.

KLHJ2 07-19-2010 02:36 PM

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[url=http://jangosteve.com/post/380926251/no-one-knows-what-theyre-doing]No One Knows What the F*** They're Doing (or "The 3 Types of Knowledge")[/url]

CRedskinsRule 07-19-2010 02:49 PM

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[quote=Angry;713116][url=http://jangosteve.com/post/380926251/no-one-knows-what-theyre-doing]No One Knows What the F*** They're Doing (or "The 3 Types of Knowledge")[/url][/quote]

That is an excellent article.

mooby 07-19-2010 07:52 PM

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I feel like the article boils down to this one little bit of knowledge. We have invested so much money and resources into national security that it's become so huge that there is nobody that can oversee it, and as a result a lot of time/money/resources are being wasted from multiple agencies and programs that are basically covering the same thing.

I wish it was as simple as El Presidente' just creating one office that has control over all national intelligence and making sure that that office can control the FBI, CIA, NSA, etc. etc. and can make sure that multiple resources aren't being wasted covering one angle. We need to be organized to be effective at national security, and I feel like this article creates a clear picture that national security has become so disorganized that it's hard to tell whether it's doing a good job or not. And while my proposal above is simplistic in design, there are probably too many flaws to be found that would ever prevent it from happening.

You could say that's what the office of the ODNI was made for, to control the flow of info and to organize everything so everybody was handling a different aspect and so there aren't 50,000 reports that cover the same thing. But the article makes it pretty clear that all the agencies have their own interests, some of which are above what the ODNI has access to.

When I read parts of that story about how some agency re-classified certain information so that the ODNI can't have access to it, or how it changed its' budget so the ODNI can't have access to that either, it just screams ineffectiveness on the behalf of the national government to organize how national security is handled.

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