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CRedskinsRule 07-21-2010 10:38 AM

Allen believes TW will sign on time
 
I hope that the Skins find a way to get TW in before the opening of camp. We have one of the later start dates, that ought to help them as well.

[url=http://blogs.fredericksburg.com/redskinsjournal/2010/07/21/redskins-gm-allen-is-confident-trent-williams-will-sign-on-time/]Redskins GM Allen believes Trent Williams will sign on time - Redskins Journal[/url]

artmonkforhallofamein07 07-21-2010 11:17 AM

Re: Allen believes TW will sign on time
 
This is good news and I hope that it is accurate. I have assumed that getting this deal done was a top priority, and this confirms it. I am glad we have at least heard something regarding TW's contract status. The Warpath, The Team, and Trent himself knows that we must get this done soon so he is on time.

Hail! 8 days till players report.

Monkeydad 07-21-2010 11:28 AM

Re: Allen believes TW will sign on time
 
I don't think Trent or the Redskins can really be blamed for a deal not getting done. According to Mike and Mike this morning, NO 1st round picks have signed yet because they're waiting to see how the new CBA will be structured. Teams just aren't sure how these rookie contracts will affect them going forward.

I have no doubts he'll be here, somehow. He and the team understands Trent's importance to this team in 2010.

Longtimefan 07-21-2010 11:38 AM

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It's important to note Williams does not want to miss time. They'll get a deal done without him missing anything significant.

artmonkforhallofamein07 07-21-2010 11:39 AM

Re: Allen believes TW will sign on time
 
Do the rookies report on the 28th or do they report with the rest of the team on the 29th?

Monkeydad 07-21-2010 11:42 AM

Re: Allen believes TW will sign on time
 
At least we have Jamaal Brown to start the season at LT if Williams does miss time and needs to be at RT initially.


It's vital we get him in on time though, we need him to be the LT. You don't draft a RT at #4, unless you already have an elite LT...like the Jets have been doing with their draft picks, building a line of all 1st-rounders.

artmonkforhallofamein07 07-21-2010 11:44 AM

Re: Allen believes TW will sign on time
 
Buster: " According to Mike and Mike this morning, NO 1st round picks have signed yet because they're waiting to see how the new CBA will be structured. "


How can the rookies and teams wait to see how the new CBA will be structured? They won't get that done between now and training camp opening.

Buster this is not a jab at you, it just does not make much sense to wait this long when the deal won't be done and the rookie pay scale may or may not be in the next CBA. I know that Hasell said it is something they want to get done, but you can't gaurentee it will be in place come April 2011. Just get these deals done and get the guys in camp operating off of the same basis they have for years. The Player, Agents and GMs can change all this next offseason not now.

MonkFan4Life 07-21-2010 11:58 AM

Re: Allen believes TW will sign on time
 
I was thinking the same thing. If this is what the teams are putting out there, then I guess there will either be no rookies signed or the CBA will be done in about a week or two. They'll all sign but they are probably trying to see just how much money they can get. The NFL really needs to get some kind of slotted salary system for the draftees.

SmootSmack 07-21-2010 12:03 PM

Re: Allen believes TW will sign on time
 
[quote=Buster;713366]I don't think Trent or the Redskins can really be blamed for a deal not getting done. According to Mike and Mike this morning, NO 1st round picks have signed yet because they're waiting to see how the new CBA will be structured. Teams just aren't sure how these rookie contracts will affect them going forward.

I have no doubts he'll be here, somehow. He and the team understands Trent's importance to this team in 2010.[/quote]

You didn't hear right. They weren't talking about draft picks. It was in reference to current players (guys like Manning, Brady, McNabb) who have contracts but are due to expire soon who have not signed new contracts because of the CBA uncertainty

CRedskinsRule 07-21-2010 12:03 PM

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Yeah, the negotiations may be a little more tricky than years past but will get done [deleted] The article gave what I believe a good basis for TW's contract, that is last year's 4th overall, and the 1st and 2nd OT drafted last year.

[QUOTE]Some figures to keep in mind, though: Last year’s No. 4 pick, Seattle linebacker Aaron Curry, signed a six-year, $60 million deal with $34 million guaranteed, according to NFL.com.

Also last season, the second- and sixth-overall picks were offensive linemen Jason Smith and Andre Smith, respectively. Jason signed with St. Louis for five years, $61.8 million ($33 million guaranteed). Andre signed with Cincinnati for four years, $26 million ($21 million guaranteed).[/QUOTE]

I imagine he will be looking at about 62 Million over 5 years with 35 million guaranteed, I just don't see how you can't just put your pen on the paper and sign that. Let others haggle, you get in on time.

artmonkforhallofamein07 07-21-2010 12:49 PM

Re: Allen believes TW will sign on time
 
[quote=SmootSmack;713384]You didn't hear right. They weren't talking about draft picks. It was in reference to current players (guys like Manning, Brady, McNabb) who have contracts but are due to expire soon who have not signed new contracts because of the CBA uncertainty[/quote]

That makes more sense.

dmek25 07-21-2010 01:06 PM

Re: Allen believes TW will sign on time
 
[quote=Buster;713366][B]I don't think Trent or the Redskins can really be[/B] [B]blamed for a deal not getting done[/B]. According to Mike and Mike this morning, NO 1st round picks have signed yet because they're waiting to see how the new CBA will be structured. Teams just aren't sure how these rookie contracts will affect them going forward.

I have no doubts he'll be here, somehow. He and the team understands Trent's importance to this team in 2010.[/quote]
spoken by someone that hates unions? who the hell is to blame? those 2 sides are the ones sitting at the table. too me, it boils down to the athlete. the framework is already in place. so are the numbers. unless the skins are trying to play hard ball, which i doubt, he will be in camp

Monkeydad 07-21-2010 02:42 PM

Re: Allen believes TW will sign on time
 
[quote=SmootSmack;713384]You didn't hear right. They weren't talking about draft picks. It was in reference to current players (guys like Manning, Brady, McNabb) who have contracts but are due to expire soon who have not signed new contracts because of the CBA uncertainty[/quote]

Wrong, they were talking about draft picks signing and specifically mentioned Jamarcus Russell not signing until September and ruining his rookie season, plus the other two instances of #1 picks not signing into July, Eli Manning and Alex Smith. Golic even asked "so 7 of the last 10 first picks have signed in April or May and no first rounders have signed this year?" I'm not saying they're accurate, but I understand what they were saying...about DRAFT PICKS.

Yes, they were also talking about Brady and Manning...but it's common knowledge they're not getting deals until after Bradford's numbers are finalized.



Backup for what I heard/said:

[quote][URL="http://detnews.com/article/20100720/SPORTS0101/7200391/1126/rss14"]Lions, unsigned Ndamukong Suh talking big money | detnews.com | The Detroit News[/URL]

[B]Lions, unsigned Ndamukong Suh talking big money[/B]

[B]Mike O'Hara / Special to The Detroit News[/B]

[I]Allen Park[/I] --[SIZE=4][COLOR=Red][B]With the start of NFL training camps rapidly approaching and no first-round draft picks signed[/B][/COLOR][/SIZE], the agent for Lions rookie Ndamukong Suh is using only one reference point in negotiations for his client.
[/quote]It's not just Trent.
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[/COLOR]Several factors have made the signing of draft picks considerably slower this year than in previous years.



No first-round picks were signed as of Tuesday morning. The Lions have two first-rounders. They drafted running back Jahvid Best of California 30th overall after acquiring the pick in a trade with Minnesota.



One factor is that Oklahoma quarterback Sam Bradford, drafted first overall by the [URL="http://detnews.com/article/20100720/SPORTS0101/7200391/1126/rss14#"]Rams[/URL], has not signed. The top pick often sets the standard, but there are exceptions.



In 2008, the Dolphins signed offensive tackle Jake Long of Michigan a few days before officially making him the first player drafted. The Lions signed Stafford the day before last year's draft.



Negotiations between the NFL owners and the players association on a new collective bargaining agreement also have made an impact. Many people are expecting a lockout by the owners next year.



There is increasing sentiment on the part of owners to get a rookie wage scale, similar to the one in place in pro basketball. Commissioner Roger Goodell has been outspoken in saying more money should go to veterans and less to rookies.
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[COLOR=#000000] ^ Exactly what I said.
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NYCskinfan82 07-21-2010 03:04 PM

Re: Allen believes TW will sign on time
 
Three of the top four draft picks share the same agent based on that TW would be the last to sign of the three.

HTTR.

SmootSmack 07-21-2010 03:34 PM

Re: Allen believes TW will sign on time
 
I know they talked about draft picks. When they spoke with D. Smith about contracts not having been signed due to CBA uncertainty, they were not talking about draft picks. When D Smith spoke about draft picks not having signed he actually alluded to collusion being a factor.

After D. Smith left, Greenberg mentioned that Bill Polian has said one of the hold ups in Manning's new contract is uncertainty on the new CBA, and when they spoke about Russell and the other draft picks it was again more about D. Smiths suggestion that collusion might be in play.

Greenberg did say that the CBA uncertainty is playing a factor in everything, but they weren't saying draft picks had not signed due to CBA uncertainty.


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