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Well. Looks like Obama did live up to at least 1 thing he promised.

[url=http://www.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/meast/08/18/iraq.combat.convoy/index.html?hpt=T1&iref=BN1]Last U.S. combat convoy has left Iraq - CNN.com[/url]

Thanks to all the men and women who have been out there and who are still out there.

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Um, you're welcome?

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Angry have you served in the Middle East, at least in this decade? Or did you do a tour back in the 90's?

Either way it's good for our guys to be getting out of there. I appreciate the sacrifices they've made over there so things aren't like that over here. I do believe though that us leaving there means Al Qaida/Taliban is going to make a strong push to take over there again now that we're gone. Aka in the end Saddam may be gone, but huge strides probably won't be made.

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Uh yes, and yes I have only been out for 4 years. The first time that I was in the Middle East was for Operation Desert Fox in 1998. The last time I was there was in 2004 for Operation Iraqi Freedom. In 2005 I got a cush instructor job on Ft. Gordon and in Sept 2006 I got out of the Army. To this day I still work very closely with the Army.

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I was in until 2006, I did not deploy. WV Air National Guard. A1C.

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[quote=DynamiteRave;721738]Well. Looks like Obama did live up to at least 1 thing he promised.

[URL="http://www.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/meast/08/18/iraq.combat.convoy/index.html?hpt=T1&iref=BN1"]Last U.S. combat convoy has left Iraq - CNN.com[/URL]

Thanks to all the men and women who have been out there and who are still out there.[/quote]

That he did...told the enemy exactly how long to lay low and the day the can run amock.




Seriously, thank you for the service, men and women of the military. I have a close friend and his brother who did at least 3 tours each with the 82nd AB in some VERY dangerous assignments. Without their sacrifice, we'd all be dead most likely. I have a niece preparing to leave for Afghanistan shortly for a year with the National Guard too.

[IMG]http://www.rightnation.us/forums/style_emoticons/default/salute.gif[/IMG] Angry and SS84.

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[quote=Buster;721924]That he did...told the enemy exactly how long to lay low and the day the can run amock.




Seriously, thank you for the service, men and women of the military. I have a close friend and his brother who did at least 3 tours each with the 82nd AB in some VERY dangerous assignments. Without their sacrifice, we'd all be dead most likely. I have a niece preparing to leave for Afghanistan shortly for a year with the National Guard too.

[IMG]http://www.rightnation.us/forums/style_emoticons/default/salute.gif[/IMG] Angry and SS84.[/quote]


When did they start allowing women in the national guard. No wonder it took us so long to get out of Iraq. They probably talk the enemy to death. Next thing you know thay will be letting gays in the service as long as they don't say they are gay.

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Just read about it this morning.

A big thank you for all the men and women who now hopefully will get to spend thanksgiving and the holidays at home with their loved ones.

I want to send a prayer and RIP out to "bubba" who i went to school with at bullis and wrestled with. He passed away last year in Afghanistan. When someone passes away they always seem to be glorified as the best person to walk the earth but this guy was a great person, person of character even at such a young age. I was new to the school, he and his family were very closely tied to the school, his mother worked there and he went out of his way to make me feel welcome, especially on the wrestling mat.

RIP Bubba.

[url=http://www.wusa9.com/news/local/story.aspx?storyid=82059&catid=189]Potomac Man Killed In Iraq | WUSA9.com | Washington, DC |[/url]

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[quote=Angry;721853]Uh yes, and yes I have only been out for 4 years. The first time that I was in the Middle East was for Operation Desert Fox in 1998. The last time I was there was in 2004 for Operation Iraqi Freedom. In 2005 I got a cush instructor job on Ft. Gordon and in Sept 2006 I got out of the Army. To this day I still work very closely with the Army.[/quote]

I am at Fort Gordon right now. Were you signal, or did you work as an instructor in the medical field. Eisenhower is a large "teaching" hospital.

And I have been to Iraq for OIF twice. OIF 1 and OIF 4. Good times, if by good you mean 120 degree heat with full battle rattle and hot water to drink, and sandstorms so bad, you cant see your playboy mag while jerking your junk.........

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50k still remain...what are the going to do there? Part-time combat?

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[quote=saden1;722006]50k still remain...what are the going to do there? Part-time combat?[/quote]

LOL, thats funny

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All kidding aside a big thanks to all that have served the good old US. Glade your here to read this.

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[quote=Angry;721853]Uh yes, and yes I have only been out for 4 years. The first time that I was in the Middle East was for Operation Desert Fox in 1998. The last time I was there was in 2004 for Operation Iraqi Freedom. In 2005 I got a cush instructor job on Ft. Gordon and in Sept 2006 I got out of the Army. To this day I still work very closely with the Army.[/quote]

Well thank you for your service. I know there are still jackasses out there that make our military men and women feel unappreciated when they return home after a tour of duty, but I'm not one of them.

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[quote=Mechanix544;721976]I am at Fort Gordon right now. Were you signal, or did you work as an instructor in the medical field. Eisenhower is a large "teaching" hospital.

And I have been to Iraq for OIF twice. OIF 1 and OIF 4. Good times, if by good you mean 120 degree heat with full battle rattle and hot water to drink, and sandstorms so bad, you cant see your playboy mag while jerking your junk.........[/quote]

I told you that I was in B 442. I was an Instructor for Officer Basic Course which is now know as Basic Officers Leaders Course.

I got some funny stories about full battle rattle, sandstorms, taking dumps and soldiers jerking their junk. I also have a couple about prostitution rings being ran out of the ice trucks.

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I am kind of preterbed about the headline of the article. There are still 56,000 troops over there. Saying that the last combat convoy has left Iraq does not sit well with me. All soldiers are combatants and all combatants are still armed. Those soldiers will still travel in convoys carring a basic load. We still have a presence there and to say that it is over is disrespectfull to those who are still there.

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ya, i have some good old stories about a meth lab opertaing in the basement of one of our barracks buildings back at fort carson, and three girls in my unit getting hemmed up for prostitution charges for charging 50 bux a lay while they were over there.

Ridiculous

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[quote=Mechanix544;722153]ya, i have some good old stories about a meth lab opertaing in the basement of one of our barracks buildings back at fort carson, and three girls in my unit getting hemmed up for prostitution charges for charging [B]50 bux[/B] a lay while they were over there.

Ridiculous[/quote]

Yep that seemed like the going rate. And PVT "Joe Snuffy" would always pay up.

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Of course he would. What is sexier than a hot woman, literally with sand in her crack, sweat stains in her panties, and unshaven legs and armpits?

I really can't think of anything......

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[quote=saden1;722006]50k still remain...what are the going to do there? Part-time combat?[/quote]

Exactly. They didn't all "leave". They renamed them. Kudos to Obama for finally "keeping a promise" he made to those that voted for him. Many of them will be too dumb to realize they're being snookered on this one.

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Well, supposedly, we are only to be in combat situations when the Iraqi Army "asks" for our assistance.

Like their orders dont come from us in the first place.

Its funny how the left is touting this as such a good thing, when there will still be a force of over 58,000 US soldiers and half that many civilian contractors. Over 80,000 men still over there does not a promise keep.

This feels kind of like Obamas "Mission Accomplished" to me.

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[quote=Mechanix544;723387]Of course he would. What is sexier than a hot woman, literally with sand in her crack, sweat stains in her panties, and unshaven legs and armpits?

I really can't think of anything......[/quote]

All of the above on her period right after she took a shit. Thank heaven for baby wipes. :vomit:

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Saden, the 50K are more or less security forces escorting and protecting government officials, diplomats and the like. A portion of that, no one's sure what's the number, are there for counter terrorism, and then a portion are still respoonsible for training.

But my guess is if shit pops off we'll have some boys over there to handle business.

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More than anything, our presence there offers us a strategic position on the map in the event Iran wants to start something.

We're primarily there to train the Iraqis and be a stable force to protect the newly formed government. But having a base that close to Iran (which happens to be between Iran and Israel) definitely plays into it.

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[quote=Schneed10;723463]More than anything, our presence there offers us a strategic position on the map in the event Iran wants to start something.

We're primarily there to train the Iraqis and be a stable force to protect the newly formed government. But having a base that close to Iran (which happens to be between Iran and Israel) definitely plays into it.[/quote]

I think our hands are kinda tied on Iran. But you may be right, from an intel perspective we might be able to keep an eye on Iran, but nothing more than that.

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[quote=12thMan;723464]I think our hands are kinda tied on Iran. But you may be right, from an intel perspective we might be able to keep an eye on Iran, but nothing more than that.[/quote]

Not sure what you mean by hands are tied, but our presence in Iraq offers a few strategic things:

- Possible future deployment location for our anti-missile system. Kind of hard for Iran to assault Israel with long range missiles if we have a system to shoot down their birds.

- Iraq becomes a possible staging area for future mid-east conflicts, whether they involve the defense of Israel, or whatever.

- Geographically, it puts an American presence right smack between Syria and Iran.

- Increased leverage on Iran in negotiations for nuclear non-proliferation.

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[quote=Angry;722136]I am kind of preterbed about the headline of the article. There are still 56,000 troops over there. Saying that the last combat convoy has left Iraq does not sit well with me. All soldiers are combatants and all combatants are still armed. Those soldiers will still travel in convoys carring a basic load. We still have a presence there and to say that it is over is disrespectfull to those who are still there.[/quote]

They cannot call them combat troops because then Obam would not have full filled his promise to have the troops out of Iraq. Not sure why they are worried about that now after all the other promises he has broken.

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[quote=Schneed10;723466]Not sure what you mean by hands are tied, but our presence in Iraq offers a few strategic things:

- Possible future deployment location for our anti-missile system. Kind of hard for Iran to assault Israel with long range missiles if we have a system to shoot down their birds.

- Iraq becomes a possible staging area for future mid-east conflicts, whether they involve the defense of Israel, or whatever.

- Geographically, it puts an American presence right smack between Syria and Iran.

- Increased leverage on Iran in negotiations for nuclear non-proliferation.[/quote]

Just what I said, I think our hands are tied, or [I]better[/I] said, our options are limited regarding military action against Iran. For political reasons and as a matter of practical military resources, there is no way we'll strike yet a third Arab/Muslim nation in the span of 10 years without provocation. That just won't fly globally.

Think about it, Iran is one of the only nations in that region without nuclear weps. India, Pakistan, and Israel all have nuclear capabilities and can protect their sovereign borders. So why can't Iran? This is what Ahmadinejad is selling to the Iranian regime every day. And it's a pretty compelling argument.

This is an interesting debate on many levels and opinions vary, but I personally don't see it happening. I think Iran is more interested in appearing as a threat than actually becoming one. That's where they hold the most leverage against the United States and Israel. The minute the United States starts ramping up efforts to strike, we play right into Ahmadinejad's hands and lose credibility with the millions of Iranians who want change.

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[quote=Schneed10;723466]Not sure what you mean by hands are tied, but our presence in Iraq offers a few strategic things:

- Possible future deployment location for our anti-missile system. Kind of hard for Iran to assault Israel with long range missiles if we have a system to shoot down their birds.

- Iraq becomes a possible staging area for future mid-east conflicts, whether they involve the defense of Israel, or whatever.

- Geographically, it puts an American presence right smack between Syria and Iran.

- Increased leverage on Iran in negotiations for nuclear non-proliferation.[/quote]

But I guess for the argument you're making, I totally agree. It's good for strategic purposes, but I think that's all it will ever boil down to.

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[quote=12thMan;723478]But I guess for the argument you're making, I totally agree. It's good for strategic purposes, but I think that's all it will ever boil down to.[/quote]

Yeah, I never said we'd be there to start something with Iran. But we're there to respond. They're repeatedly hostile to Israel, saying they should be wiped off the map.

It's a deterrent more than anything.

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[quote=firstdown;723467]They cannot call them combat troops because then Obam would not have full filled his promise to have the troops out of Iraq. Not sure why they are worried about that now after all the other promises he has broken.[/quote]

Exactly right. It's nothing more than politics. Try telling any one of those nearly 60,000 soldiers over there that they aren't "combat troops." Hogwash.

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[quote=firstdown;723467]They cannot call them combat troops because then Obam would not have full filled his promise to have the troops out of Iraq. Not sure why they are worried about that now after all the other [B]promises he has broken[/B].[/quote]
[url=http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/]PolitiFact | The Obameter: Tracking Barack Obama's Campaign Promises[/url]
you say this a lot. read the link, and lord Obama is pretty much doing what he said he would. your hatred gets in the way of the facts

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[quote=dmek25;723634][URL="http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/"]PolitiFact | The Obameter: Tracking Barack Obama's Campaign Promises[/URL]
you say this a lot. read the link, and lord Obama is pretty much doing what he said he would. your hatred gets in the way of the facts[/quote]

Eh.

[url=http://www.nationalreview.com/campaign-spot/4701/long-post-complete-list-obama-statement-expiration-dates]A Long Post: The Complete List of Obama Statement Expiration Dates - The Campaign Spot - National Review Online[/url]

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[quote=saden1;722006]50k still remain...what are the going to do there? Part-time combat?[/quote]


Everyone should come home!!!!!

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President Obama drawing down Iraq troops from 48,000 to 3,000 by year's end. Major development. I like it.

[url=http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/09/06/sources-obama-administration-to-drop-troop-levels-in-iraq-to-3000/]Sources: Obama Administration To Drop Troop Levels In Iraq To 3,000 | FoxNews.com[/url]

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I'm pretty sure GOP candidates and pundits will make hay of this and kick up some dust, but I think it's the right move for the country.

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"I am kind of preterbed about the headline of the article. There are still 56,000 troops over there. Saying that the last combat convoy has left Iraq does not sit well with me. All soldiers are combatants and all combatants are still armed. Those soldiers will still travel in convoys carring a basic load. We still have a presence there and to say that it is over is disrespectfull to those who are still there."

Well said Angry. Every soldier is an American Fighter!

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[quote=12thMan;831357]President Obama drawing down Iraq troops from 48,000 to 3,000 by year's end. Major development. I like it.

[url=http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/09/06/sources-obama-administration-to-drop-troop-levels-in-iraq-to-3000/]Sources: Obama Administration To Drop Troop Levels In Iraq To 3,000 | FoxNews.com[/url][/quote]

Major development? I think not. Perfect timing for the election season.

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[quote=saden1;831458]Major development? I think not. Perfect timing for the election season.[/quote]

...that too.

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[quote=12thMan;831466]...that too.[/quote]

I look forward to hearing about his plan for troop reduction in Afghanistan.

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[quote=saden1;831458]Major development? I think not. Perfect timing for the election season.[/quote]

I don't think it helps him or hurts him. His base is all ready pissed it has taken so long and the others knew it would not be done over night.