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skinster 01-20-2011 09:50 PM

Is locker going in the first or second?
 
I personally have no opinion on if he is a good talent or not, I don't watch college football all that much.
But I do have a vested interest in maximizing our draft picks, and when this time of the year comes around I do as much research as possible.
Many mock drafts I've been seeing lately have locker missing the first round. IMO I would say there is strong evidence he is the guy shannahan wants. Reports indicate that he likes locker, and there seem to be similarities between locker and cutler in that they both have raw ability that was not showcased in college due to their poor teams.

So my question is, IF locker is the guy we want. How should we go about trying to get him? It seems as if he might drop much farther than the 10 pick if we do not get him. Is it worth it to draft somebody else with our top 10 pick and then risk taking him in the early second? or maybe we could trade back into the late first? Or if he is our franchise qb do we not mess around and just pull the trigger at 10?
I would personally be opposed to risking taking him in the second, but I wouldn't mind if we traded back into the first to snag him (give up no more than this years 2nd and next years 3rd and 6th).

saden1 01-20-2011 10:03 PM

Re: Is locker going in the first or second?
 
He is trash...not fit to be selected in the first round. At least Tebow was a winner...this guy not so much.

skinsfaninok 01-20-2011 10:38 PM

Re: Is locker going in the first or second?
 
Not trying to be Post Cop bud but isn't this being discussed in the other Draft forums? :postcop:

SmootSmack 01-20-2011 10:59 PM

Re: Is locker going in the first or second?
 
Good question. Hard to say. But you lost me when you said you wouldn't take him in the second, but you'd trade back into the first to get him.

Also, make sure you put draft threads in the draft forum

skinster 01-21-2011 01:51 AM

Re: Is locker going in the first or second?
 
[quote=SmootSmack;779333]Good question. Hard to say. But you lost me when you said you wouldn't take him in the second, but you'd trade back into the first to get him.

Also, make sure you put draft threads in the draft forum[/quote]

I was saying that I wouldn't risk waiting to see if he was around in the second.

Basically what I'm asking is IF Locker is the guy Shanahan wants, how do we go about picking him? According to all the mock drafts it seems high to pick him at 10, but it is risky to see if he will drop to the 40's.
I'm just asking what is the best way to maximize our draft selections.

Dirtbag59 01-21-2011 07:07 AM

Re: Is locker going in the first or second?
 
If the drat were held today I would peg him as a second round pick. However after the combine, Senior Bowl, interviews, private workouts etc he'll probably work his way back into the first. I'm pretty sure Shanny is keeping a close eye on him especially considering the rumors that he was really smitten with him last year.

Mattyk 01-21-2011 08:37 AM

Re: Is locker going in the first or second?
 
Definitely a first rounder. Especially after the combine and workouts where he will likely shine. I'd bet his stock will overinflate, pushing him into the top 1/3 of the draft.

mredskins 01-21-2011 08:40 AM

Re: Is locker going in the first or second?
 
if you google Jake Locker the 3 choice is jake locker redskins, guess we have kind of been tied to him.

tryfuhl 01-21-2011 08:42 AM

Re: Is locker going in the first or second?
 
And who will be this year's Jimmy Clausen?

freddyg12 01-21-2011 08:53 AM

Re: Is locker going in the first or second?
 
[quote=tryfuhl;779388]And who will be this year's Jimmy Clausen?[/quote]

He & Christion Ponder seem to have some things in common, but I think you're asking who's going to slide? I'm thinking Mallet.

Maybe a better question/scenario for us is who's this year's Aaron Rodgers? and let's hope we trade back & get him.

Dirtbag59 01-21-2011 09:02 AM

Re: Is locker going in the first or second?
 
[quote=tryfuhl;779388]And who will be this year's Jimmy Clausen?[/quote]

Ryan Mallet. Junior QB coached by Bobby Petrino. These days Petrino is the early 2000's equivalent of Jeff Tedford in that Petrino is considered a great QB coach at the college level yet his players have difficulties transitioning to the pro's in spite of running a pro system at the colleigate level.

Mallet won't interview well and from what I hear he'll be lucky to have an average Wonderlic score. He does have the leadership qualities teams look for along with the arm but he won't wow you in the interview room with charisma like a Tebow or Ryan nor the football IQ of a Manning or Brees.

SmootSmack 01-21-2011 09:06 AM

Re: Is locker going in the first or second?
 
[quote=Dirtbag359;779394]Ryan Mallet. Junior QB coached by Bobby Petrino. These days Petrino is the early 2000's equivalent of Jeff Tedford in that Petrino is considered a great QB coach at the college level yet his players have difficulties transitioning to the pro's in spite of running a pro system at the colleigate level.

Mallet won't interview well and from what I hear he'll be lucky to have an average Wonderlic score. He does have the leadership qualities teams look for along with the arm but he won't wow you in the interview room with charisma like a Tebow or Ryan nor the football IQ of a Manning or Brees.[/quote]

I'd probably say Mallet too...but Tedford is looking a bit redeemed these days with Aaron Rodgers

SmootSmack 01-21-2011 09:06 AM

Re: Is locker going in the first or second?
 
[quote=freddyg12;779392]He & Christion Ponder seem to have some things in common, but I think you're asking who's going to slide? I'm thinking Mallet.

Maybe a better question/scenario for us is who's this year's Aaron Rodgers? and let's hope we trade back & get him.[/quote]

This year's Aaron Rodgers in what way?

Dirtbag59 01-21-2011 09:15 AM

Re: Is locker going in the first or second?
 
[quote=SmootSmack;779395]I'd probably say Mallet too...but Tedford is looking a bit redeemed these days with Aaron Rodgers[/quote]

Yeah, pretty much. Patrino is still looking for his own version of Aaron Rodgers at the pro level. Unfortunately the closest he's gotten is Jake Plummer. Other Petrino coached QB's include Dave Ragone, Stefan LeFors, Chris Redman, and Brian Brohm many of whom serve as poster childs for why teams can't rely on using mid round draft picks to find franchise QB.

Lol in fact I'm convinced, if Chris Redman was coming out in this draft he would have a following that would make both Andy Dalton and Kellen Moore jealous, well maybe not Kellen Moore but certainly Andy Dalton. I mean if I told people that there would be a QB available as late as the third round with four years of starting experience in a pro-like system with 29 TD passes each of the last two years paired with 15 and 13 INT's as well as a 71% and 65% completion percentage (not to mention[URL="http://www.totalfootballstats.com/PlayerQB.asp?id=3236"] 4,042 and 3,647 yards[/URL] during his last two seasons), well safe to say the man crushes would be flying left and right.

Which actually begs the question.....why the hell was Chris Redman a third round pick in the first place? I mean I know he went on to be a bust but as a prospect he certainly seems like someone that should have fetched a first round grade.

skinsguy 01-21-2011 09:53 AM

Re: Is locker going in the first or second?
 
How many years of college does Montana's kid have left? ;-)


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