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mredskins 02-07-2011 01:46 PM

F...Work Reviews
 
To me it is the most painful part of my job. It is just line after line of BS and how often during the year do you refer back to it.

We have the system where we have to write our own review then the mangers revise it. Would it not be a hell of a lot easier just for your immediate supervisor to write down your strengths and weaknesses then develop an increase or not in salary based on that.

I love LOVE the folks who fight the review process tooth and nail. Arguing over every line with their manager. Who cares what they think, I always end up in the neighborhood of 3% to 5% increase. Is it really worth battling over 1%?

mlmpetert 02-07-2011 04:05 PM

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My friend works for Genworth (headquarters in Richmond), and last night I was like are you not drinking tonight and he said he had his work review tomorrow. I mean how messed up is that. I feel like only a big co. like that would schedule reviews the day after the superbowl. Everyone always hears that the day after the superbowl has the most work absenteeism, but this just seems like a cruel way to combat this.

TheMalcolmConnection 02-07-2011 05:02 PM

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[quote=mredskins;783121]To me it is the most painful part of my job. It is just line after line of BS and how often during the year do you refer back to it.

We have the system where we have to write our own review then the mangers revise it. Would it not be a hell of a lot easier just for your immediate supervisor to write down your strengths and weaknesses then develop an increase or not in salary based on that.

I love LOVE the folks who fight the review process tooth and nail. Arguing over every line with their manager. Who cares what they think, I always end up in the neighborhood of 3% to 5% increase. Is it really worth battling over 1%?[/quote]

Couldn't agree more. Ours sounds VERY similar to yours and it's just BS. Basically if you're going to get a sizable raise, it WON'T be from a performance review.

mredskins 02-07-2011 05:08 PM

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^ Yup if you want a big jump in pay got find a new job.

BDBohnzie 02-07-2011 09:14 PM

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1% is an extra $500/year on a $50k salary...I dunno about you, but I would love an extra $500 if I can point out 1 or 2 things I did during the year to boost my salary.

Then again, I don't write mine. There is standard form the company uses, and anything above or below average must be justified. In the employee comments section, I always make sure to point out those extra things that weren't included.

724Skinsfan 02-07-2011 09:17 PM

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State employee. Haven't had a raise in 3 years...{whimper}...

tryfuhl 02-08-2011 12:44 AM

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I work retail, you're not allowed any failures, no absenteeism, etc

get over it

tryfuhl 02-08-2011 12:44 AM

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And yes I'm working to get above retail mgmt

Alvin Walton 02-08-2011 08:33 AM

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My backwards ass company does not pay for performance, it pays for seniority.
You can get consistent marginal reviews but it really doesn't matter, all you need to do is show up for work every day and you will get your wage increase when it is due.

Schneed10 02-08-2011 09:21 AM

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I'm in healthcare, a business where it's tough to justify big raises. HR tells us every year that raises will be 3% for the best, 2% for the crappy, and 0% for the near-fireable.

So because 3% is so low in the first place, I give all my employees the highest grades possible under the mindset that 3% really is just a cost of living increase.

I only dole out the promotion beyond the 3% when someone's skill set has grown enough to satisfy the next highest job description.

But yeah, writing your own reviews seems retarded. We write all of them for our employees.

Mattyk 02-08-2011 09:35 AM

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[quote=Schneed10;783294]I'm in healthcare, a business where it's tough to justify big raises. [B]HR tells us every year that raises will be 3% for the best, 2% for the crappy, and 0% for the near-fireable.[/B]

So because 3% is so low in the first place, I give all my employees the highest grades possible under the mindset that 3% really is just a cost of living increase.

I only dole out the promotion beyond the 3% when someone's skill set has grown enough to satisfy the next highest job description.

But yeah, writing your own reviews seems retarded. We write all of them for our employees.[/quote]

Sounds familiar. Always funny when you see what the jackasses at the top make in salary and bonuses, and then they try to justify with a straight face about giving out BS 3% raises to the folks at the bottom.

mredskins 02-08-2011 09:37 AM

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[quote=BDBohnzie;783231]1% is an extra $500/year on a $50k salary...I dunno about you, but I would love an extra $500 if I can point out 1 or 2 things I did during the year to boost my salary.

Then again, I don't write mine. There is standard form the company uses, and anything above or below average must be justified. In the employee comments section, I always make sure to point out those extra things that weren't included.[/quote]


I agree if there is a chance to increase it by 1% but most companies run like s10 said pretty much if you are doing your job you get a flat % increase regardless of how colorful your review is.

That it is why it always shocks me that some folks have to fight every line of their review. It is more like they can't take constructive criticism vs. actually wanting that extra 1%.

Schneed10 02-08-2011 09:52 AM

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[quote=mredskins;783303]I agree if there is a chance to increase it by 1% but most companies run like s10 said pretty much if you are doing your job you get a flat % increase regardless of how colorful your review is.

That it is why it always shocks me that some folks have to fight every line of their review. It is more like they can't take constructive criticism vs. actually wanting that extra 1%.[/quote]

And in the end isn't it pointless to fight it? The manager signs off on the review, what the employee thinks of themself doesn't really matter, it's what the manager thinks that matters.

I guess fighting it conveys that you see it differently than the manager does, and then the two of you can try to bridge the gap to understand each other better. But fighting it won't get you a better review.

Ultimately a manager would much rather have someone that listens to the review and considers ways to improve. Fighting about it is silly, just take the feedback and use it to get better. If someone comes back to me and says "hey last year you gave me a review asking me to improve on X Y Z and I've done that, here are some examples, so how bout it?" I'm more inclined to give that perfect review then the next year.

firstdown 02-08-2011 11:55 AM

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They also use those reviews to document any issues and when they need to fire you they have a file to back them up.

Monkeydad 02-08-2011 01:03 PM

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[quote=724Skinsfan;783234]State employee. Haven't had a raise in 3 years...{whimper}...[/quote]

Bah...I work for a non-profit. Don't complain! :D


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