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[quote=SmootSmack;801952]What do you mean by "not much longer" because if you mean 1 or 2 more years than yeah Moss won't be here much longer than that. Rocky is probably gone, but would we really miss him? Brown is very much a question mark.

[B]Whatever, I say blow the whole team up and go for Luck. Who's with me?![/B][/quote]

Please don't tempt them. :)

Re: rebuilding or FA frenzy?
 

We have a plan.

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[quote=firstdown;801966]We [B]need [/B]a plan.[/quote]

.........Let's play dead

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Re: rebuilding or FA frenzy?
 

The days of going nuts in free agency are over. We do have some needs to fill once free agency opens though.

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I'm all for Free Agency as a rebuilding tool but with some caveats:

1. Don't overpay for a big name FA.
2. No turds.
3. Do multi-year deals for all young FA's signed.
4. Do one-year deals for all older, stop-gap FA's signed.
5. Choose FA's carefully.

Re: rebuilding or FA frenzy?
 

[quote=SmootSmack;801952]What do you mean by "not much longer" because if you mean 1 or 2 more years than yeah Moss won't be here much longer than that. Rocky is probably gone, but would we really miss him? Brown is very much a question mark.

Whatever, I say blow the whole team up and go for Luck. Who's with me?![/quote]Luck 2012, SB in 2013 and beyond.

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I don't think Luck is the end all answer for us. We have to many holes to fill and we may be more competitive than many think. Our schedule is the 3 easiest in the league next year.

Re: rebuilding or FA frenzy?
 

[quote=SmootSmack;801952]What do you mean by "not much longer" because if you mean 1 or 2 more years than yeah Moss won't be here much longer than that. Rocky is probably gone, but would we really miss him? Brown is very much a question mark.

Whatever, I say blow the whole team up and go for Luck. Who's with me?![/quote]

"not much longer" I mean that I have heard that we don't want to extend Rocky, Moss doesn't want to stay here, Brown wants to be a starting LT somewhere, and Los wants out as well. They are all FA's this year.

But more so on top of that by "not much longer" is that even if some of these guys stay, how much longer will they be effective? by the time we get the pieces around them to fill the other holes on our team, many players on our team will be too old an ineffective and we will have to fill those new holes, not having a complete team.

I am 100% on board with the Luck proposal, I've been saying it for years. I'd much prefer to be absolutely terrible for a few years, get the core players we need in the draft, and then start to wreck shit up as opposed to staying in mediocrity forever. The lions and Rams will be two great teams a few years down the road...hell even look at the falcons now. The colts/chargers/giants would all be nothing if not for that one bad season they had. We need a great qb, and to get that we need to lose.
I'll personally be rooting for an 0-16 season, and get Andrew Luck. I would love watching our games even in those first few seasons when our rebuilding project begins, before we are good. I'd love to just watch young guys develop and watch the improvement of our team. And then when it all clicks together, I'd love that even more. Mediocrity is the worst thing you can be in football. You don't improve enough through the draft, and your team still pisses you off. I've been pissed off way too long. I want something to look forward to.

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Moss has said he hopes to come back.

Sorry but rooting for 0-16 = retarded.

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IMO they should only sign free agents under the age of 26 to long term deals.

It still stings that they waited a year to start doing this. Trading for McNabb and Brown were two deals that should have never been done.

Again, only way to go is up.

Re: rebuilding or FA frenzy?
 

[quote=SmootSmack;801952]What do you mean by "not much longer" because if you mean 1 or 2 more years than yeah Moss won't be here much longer than that. Rocky is probably gone, but would we really miss him? Brown is very much a question mark.

Whatever, I say blow the whole team up and go for Luck. Who's with me?![/quote]

I swear if I thought it was possible I would do it...but it seems just as hard to be the worst team as it is to be the best. As bad as the last Zorn team was we were not even close to picking 1st. In theory I would easily give up 1 year for 10-15 years of Luck...

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[quote=diehardskin2982;801992]I don't think Luck is the end all answer for us. We have to many holes to fill and we may be more competitive than many think. Our schedule is the 3 easiest in the league next year.[/quote]

I disagree. You can go without great guys at any position and win with the exception of qb. The qb is the end all be all, and if you don't have one your screwed. Granted your right in that you need to surround him with the right pieces to put him in a position to win, but if you have those pieces (many of them) and you don't have that QB, you are screwed.

I don't want to be "more competitive" than one might think. What does that even mean? we go 8-8? 9-7? Might as well go 0-16 because all teams that has no shot at winning the superbowl are the same in my eyes. And we get some middle grade draft picks that will ensure that we stay in medicority forever? talent needs to be infused on to our team, and the only way for that to happen is to get higher draft picks.

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I don't like the term "frenzy" but I would like us to use free agency as long as we target mostly younger players. I believe free agency can be a part of rebuilding...it does not have to be cut and dry that you are not rebuilding unless it is 100% through the draft.

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[quote=skinster;801999]I disagree. You can go without great guys at any position and win with the exception of qb. The qb is the end all be all, and if you don't have one your screwed. Granted your right in that you need to surround him with the right pieces to put him in a position to win, but if you have those pieces (many of them) and you don't have that QB, you are screwed.

I don't want to be "more competitive" than one might think. What does that even mean? we go 8-8? 9-7? Might as well go 0-16 because all teams that has no shot at winning the superbowl are the same in my eyes. And we get some middle grade draft picks that will ensure that we stay in medicority forever? talent needs to be infused on to our team, and the only way for that to happen is to get higher draft picks.[/quote]

Okay and if so through the rebuilding process with your so called "middle grade draft picks" we don't do well because we are young and inexperienced and lose a lot of games so be it. That is part of the rebuilding process. But you make it sound like losing would be on purpose, a priority. That is just ignorant and asinine if you ask me.

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[quote=Mattyk;801996]Moss has said he hopes to come back.

Sorry but rooting for 0-16 = retarded.[/quote]

You think that the rams are happy they were last?

Or the lions?

Or the Chargers?

Or the Colts?

Or the Broncos getting elway (just saying that cause luck reminds me of elway)?

I don't believe luck to be an alex smith/jamarcus russell/whoever else. This guy is the real deal.

I guarantee you that if we get last this year and pick luck, you will look back at this year as the best thing that ever happened to the redskins.

Your god damn right I'd scrap one meaningless year (get real, we have no shot this year) to be successful for the next 12.