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SmootSmack 06-02-2011 03:40 PM

Court Cancels Mediation, Settlement Negotiations Continue
 
Starting a new thread on this because it looks like pretty big news. Judge Boylan has decided not to have the court ordered mediation next week and allow the NFL and NFLPA to continue their ongoing "settlement discussions"

NC_Skins 06-02-2011 03:41 PM

Re: Court Cancels Mediation, Settlement Negotiations Continue
 
What's the difference between the court ordered mediation and ongoing "settlement discussions"?

MTK 06-02-2011 03:43 PM

Re: Court Cancels Mediation, Settlement Negotiations Continue
 
Fingers crossed.

SmootSmack 06-02-2011 03:46 PM

Re: Court Cancels Mediation, Settlement Negotiations Continue
 
Best I can explain it, it means the players are winning.

Honestly, I don't know how to succinctly explain it. Not as well as JoeRedskin could.

mlmpetert 06-02-2011 03:49 PM

Re: Court Cancels Mediation, Settlement Negotiations Continue
 
[quote=NC_Skins;805453]What's the difference between the court ordered mediation and ongoing "settlement discussions"?[/quote]


From Florio:

This could mean that communications will continue, either in person or via other means, into next week and beyond.

It makes sense for the mediator, U.S. Magistrate Judge Arthur Boylan, to push the parties to try to settle the case now, before the Eighth Circuit issues a ruling on whether the lockout will be lifted. After a final ruling is issued, one side will have a lot more leverage. For now, the uncertainty can be used by both sides to strike a win-win deal.

That’s why, in our view, it’s incumbent on the NFL to be prepared to make an offer aimed genuinely at restoring labor peace, without regard to the concept of winning the best possible deal.

[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/06/02/next-weeks-mediation-session-has-been-canceled/]Next week’s mediation session has been canceled | ProFootballTalk[/url]

MTK 06-02-2011 03:49 PM

Re: Court Cancels Mediation, Settlement Negotiations Continue
 
[quote=NC_Skins;805453]What's the difference between the court ordered mediation and ongoing "settlement discussions"?[/quote]

I think at the heart of it both sides are serious about trying to strike a deal vs being forced to sit in a room together and act like they are trying to strike a deal.

CRedskinsRule 06-02-2011 03:54 PM

Re: Court Cancels Mediation, Settlement Negotiations Continue
 
crazy, in mediation the lawyers ruled, now in "settlement talks" the lawyers are not around. I would have thought it would have been the other way around. Regardless, I think this has to be a good sign, as the court (ie Judge Nelson) seemingly would have had to sign off on her order for mediation being cancelled, and by that, I would think both sides must have at least seemed like a solution was possible.

Dirtbag59 06-02-2011 04:46 PM

Re: Court Cancels Mediation, Settlement Negotiations Continue
 
[quote=mlmpetert;805459]From Florio:

This could mean that communications will continue, either in person or via other means, into next week and beyond.

It makes sense for the mediator, U.S. Magistrate Judge Arthur Boylan, to push the parties to try to settle the case now, before the Eighth Circuit issues a ruling on whether the lockout will be lifted. After a final ruling is issued, one side will have a lot more leverage. For now, the uncertainty can be used by both sides to strike a win-win deal.

That’s why, in our view, it’s incumbent on the NFL to be prepared to make an offer aimed genuinely at restoring labor peace, without regard to the concept of winning the best possible deal.

[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/06/02/next-weeks-mediation-session-has-been-canceled/]Next week’s mediation session has been canceled | ProFootballTalk[/url][/quote]

Funny how this lockout has actually made good use of Florio's background as a lawyer.

Ruhskins 06-02-2011 04:49 PM

Re: Court Cancels Mediation, Settlement Negotiations Continue
 
[quote=Dirtbag59;805495]Funny how this lockout has actually made good use of Florio's background as a lawyer.[/quote]

Eh, he is still a pr*ck.

Paintrain 06-02-2011 06:18 PM

Re: Court Cancels Mediation, Settlement Negotiations Continue
 
[quote=Dirtbag59;805495]Funny how this lockout has actually made good use of Florio's background as a lawyer.[/quote]

He is less useless now.

MTK 06-02-2011 06:52 PM

Re: Court Cancels Mediation, Settlement Negotiations Continue
 
I think this is a legit sign that an end to this mess could be near.

SmootSmack 06-02-2011 07:09 PM

Re: Court Cancels Mediation, Settlement Negotiations Continue
 
[quote=Mattyk;805503]I think this is a legit sign that an end to this mess could be near.[/quote]

[url=http://www.cbssports.com/#!/nfl/story/15192190/miles-left-to-travel-but-real-progress-made-in-nfl-talks]Sports - CBSSports.com Sports News, Fantasy Scores, Sports Video[/url]

Let's hope. Skinfan69's custom made Vince Young Redskins jersey is just collecting dust

BigHairedAristocrat 06-02-2011 09:12 PM

Re: Court Cancels Mediation, Settlement Negotiations Continue
 
I don't see how this is a sign the players are winning. I take it as a sign demaurice smith is actually negotiating in good faith for the first time so a mediator is no longer necessary.

MTK 06-02-2011 09:22 PM

Re: Court Cancels Mediation, Settlement Negotiations Continue
 
I'm not sure either side is winning, but it seems to be an indication the owners are starting to budge a bit.

SmootSmack 06-02-2011 09:28 PM

Re: Court Cancels Mediation, Settlement Negotiations Continue
 
[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;805518]I don't see how this is a sign the players are winning. I take it as a sign demaurice smith is actually negotiating in good faith for the first time so a mediator is no longer necessary.[/quote]

Well the NFLPA offered settlement as an option in the past, and the owners rejected. Though I believe this a different sort of settlement


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