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Chico23231 07-14-2011 04:02 PM

Murdoch, Fox News & the Hacking Scandal
 
I find it humerous that any part of the day you can turn on Fox News and find Hannity, Beck, OReily, & company constantly blabbering about George Soras, his money, power and somehow how he destroying the world with his views. Not many people know him, but many are familiar with Robert Murdoch. Well looks like they been going after the wrong guy all along, shoulda looked at their boss.

Murdoch personal crusade against Soros through his mouth piece which is Fox New only wishes they could have come up with a scandel as far reaching and disgusting as this hacking situation. Those not familiar:
[url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/News_of_the_World_phone_hacking_scandal]News of the World phone hacking scandal - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/url]

Quite disgusting, and Mudoch deserves everything hes gonna get. Now with such a big story, you know the hypocritics at Fox News are not reporting it:

[url=http://news.yahoo.com/fox-news-ignoring-rupert-murdochs-hacking-scandal-095800609.html]Is Fox News ignoring Rupert Murdoch's hacking scandal? - Yahoo! News[/url]

[url=http://www.businessinsider.com/fox-news-murdoch-hacking-scandal-9-11-2011-7]FOX News Has Only Reported On The Murdoch Phone-Hacking Scandal 14x In 5 Days[/url]

No spin zone and looking out for you? Hypocrites all day long.

Good too know the FBI is starting to look into potential allagations states side. Wonder what they will find? Thoughts

GMScud 07-14-2011 05:11 PM

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[quote=Chico23231;810809]I find it humerous that any part of the day you can turn on Fox News and find Hannity, Beck, OReily, & company constantly blabbering about George Soras, his money, power and somehow how he destroying the world with his views. Not many people know him, but many are familiar with Robert Murdoch. Well looks like they been going after the wrong guy all along, shoulda looked at their boss.

Murdoch personal crusade against Soros through his mouth piece which is Fox New only wishes they could have come up with a scandel as far reaching and disgusting as this hacking situation. Those not familiar:
[URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/News_of_the_World_phone_hacking_scandal"]News of the World phone hacking scandal - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/URL]

Quite disgusting, and Mudoch deserves everything hes gonna get. Now with such a big story, you know the hypocritics at Fox News are not reporting it:

[URL="http://news.yahoo.com/fox-news-ignoring-rupert-murdochs-hacking-scandal-095800609.html"]Is Fox News ignoring Rupert Murdoch's hacking scandal? - Yahoo! News[/URL]

[URL="http://www.businessinsider.com/fox-news-murdoch-hacking-scandal-9-11-2011-7"]FOX News Has Only Reported On The Murdoch Phone-Hacking Scandal 14x In 5 Days[/URL]

No spin zone and looking out for you? Hypocrites all day long.

Good too know the FBI is starting to look into potential allagations states side. Wonder what they will find? Thoughts[/quote]

It's quite the scandal to be sure, but what are the Fox News people supposed to do? Trash the guy who writes their checks?

PS- you can trash FoxNews all you want, but don't act the same kind of hypocrisy doesn't go on with blowhards like Olbermann (oh wait, he got fired), Maddow, and their ilk on MSNBC.

wilsowilso 07-14-2011 05:45 PM

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Fox News is an embarrassment to the United States of America.

History will look very harshly on it's legacy.

I hope to one day piss on the grave of Rupert Murdoch.

That is all.

Chico23231 07-14-2011 06:18 PM

re: Murdoch, Fox News & the Hacking Scandal
 
[quote=GMScud;810818]It's quite the scandal to be sure, but what are the Fox News people supposed to do? Trash the guy who writes their checks?

PS- you can trash FoxNews all you want, but don't act the same kind of hypocrisy doesn't go on with blowhards like Olbermann (oh wait, he got fired), Maddow, and their ilk on MSNBC.[/quote]

MSNBC?...I hold Fox news in higher regards actually. I think Fox should run it and talk about it. This is a huge story, and brings up great example of when the media goes too far and what should be considered investigative reporting. They certainly crossed the line and I think in such a hyper-24/7/365 newcycle-media world since 9/11 this deserves a little more time than its gotten.

If your gonna talk Fair and Balance then certainly abide by the standard you set. You dont have to trash the guy...but you know if it was the head of NBC, CBS, CNN etc.. FOX would be killing it big time. They would run it all day long.

Chico23231 07-14-2011 06:46 PM

re: Murdoch, Fox News & the Hacking Scandal
 
[quote=firstdown;810824]I love a story about a lack of coverage and they have only reported on it 14 times in 5 days. So they are ingnoring the story just shy of 3 times a day. I have been working 14 hours days and have seen no news is Murdoch even been tied to any of this or is it just speculation.[/quote]

Well FD I think its safe to say Murdoch was not hacking into the phones. Murdoch owns and runs his company that holds News of the World and put people in charge how do run the day to day operations. Also this has been going on since 2006 so Murdoch could have known and not acted. That is speculation, but what is not speculation is none of this happend because the big story is News of the World has actually admitted guilty and people in charge are now being arrested and compesention is being made. Question is now how far did it go and if this was widespread pratice among the Murdoch corp. Would you love to find out 9/11 victims phone records were gotten or attempted to be retrived? If that turns out to be true, I got a shovel you can borrower to help bury Murdoch, cause that will be the end of him.

12thMan 07-14-2011 07:17 PM

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I think this is a great opportunity for Fox to show themselves as "fair and balanced", but I'm not holding my breath.

MTK 07-14-2011 07:39 PM

LOL @ "fair and balanced"

I always got a kick out of that.

Chico23231 07-14-2011 08:25 PM

re: Murdoch, Fox News & the Hacking Scandal
 
[quote=firstdown;810845]The only part of that statement you know to be true is that Murdoch owned the corporation which was a subsidiary to his corporation. Other then that he may have had no involvement in the corportion at all and thats very common. He may have had total control and very hands on but I have not seen anything to that affect. Who knows. Your thing seems to be FOX but reporting on it 3 times a day is far from ignoring the story.[/quote]

Ive been tuning in since the story broke to Fox and to be fair and balanced at most its a given mention then a very cop-like "move on, nothing to see here" approach. Like I said its a HUGE story and they're not breaking a round table out on it to discuss. It very obvious their protecting their interest where if it was one of the supposid lamestream media empires they would be all over it. Take a look at this from CNN and very interesting clip from Fox inbetween a commercial break:

[url=http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/bestoftv/2011/07/14/exp.nr.fox.notw.coverage.cnn?hpt=hp_t1]Video - Breaking News Videos from CNN.com[/url]

Slingin Sammy 33 07-14-2011 08:47 PM

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[quote=12thMan;810847]I think this is a great opportunity for Fox to show themselves as "fair and balanced", but I'm not holding my breath.[/quote]Bad situation for Fox. However lets not forget all media outlets display hypocrisy. They all cover their parent companies interest. You certainly don't see any pieces on NBC about GEs influence with the White House. And Obama certainly receives favorable coverage from NBC.

[url=http://www.saratogian.com/articles/2011/01/21/news/doc4d3998a30b5f1043441000.txt]Presidential visit: GE CEO Immelt to head Obama's economic advisory board - saratogian.com[/url]

[url=http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/01/21/obama-teams-ge-iran-palaver-peters-arrives-white-house/]Obama Teams Up With G.E.; Iran Palaver Peters Out; 2012 Arrives At White House - FoxNews.com[/url]

Ruhskins 07-14-2011 09:31 PM

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[quote=Slingin Sammy 33;810871]Bad situation for Fox. [B]However lets not forget all media outlets display hypocrisy.[/B] They all cover their parent companies interest. You certainly don't see any pieces on NBC about GEs influence with the White House. And Obama certainly receives favorable coverage from NBC.[/quote]

Agreed. I think it'd be stupid for Fox News to cover the Hacking Scandal when it deals. You are never going to see a news outlet badmouthing their parent company, whether they are leaning left or right.

It seems Murdoch's people f*cked up though.

GMScud 07-14-2011 11:22 PM

re: Murdoch, Fox News & the Hacking Scandal
 
[quote=Chico23231;810832]MSNBC?...I hold Fox news in higher regards actually. I think Fox should run it and talk about it. This is a huge story, and brings up great example of when the media goes too far and what should be considered investigative reporting. They certainly crossed the line and I think in such a hyper-24/7/365 newcycle-media world since 9/11 this deserves a little more time than its gotten.

If your gonna talk Fair and Balance then certainly abide by the standard you set. You dont have to trash the guy...[B]but you know if it was the head of NBC, CBS, CNN etc.. FOX would be killing it big time. They would run it all day long[/B].[/quote]

No doubt. But don't you think Murdoch has handed down a directive to all his outlets to minimize coverage? I'm sure he has. No reason to fan the flames at his own feet with news outlets he controls.

saden1 07-14-2011 11:31 PM

re: Murdoch, Fox News & the Hacking Scandal
 
This whole thing has nothing to do with Fox News and if there is anything Murdoch is guilty of it is being a good businessman.

Having said all of that I must say Fox News is nothing more than an intellectually deficient 24 hour talk show channel masquerading as a news agency.

12thMan 07-14-2011 11:49 PM

re: Murdoch, Fox News & the Hacking Scandal
 
Agreed, Saden. I'm not condemning Fox news. I just would like to see them give this story the same coverage as the other major networks.

Chico23231 07-15-2011 11:11 AM

re: Murdoch, Fox News & the Hacking Scandal
 
[quote=saden1;810898]This whole thing has nothing to do with Fox News and if there is anything [B]Murdoch is guilty of it is being a good businessman[/B].

Having said all of that I must say Fox News is nothing more than an intellectually deficient 24 hour talk show channel masquerading as a news agency.[/quote]

So the buck doesnt stop there? Like any corporation or administration, if someone commits something as egregious within his organization such as this, the "i knew nothing" defense usually does absolve the top person. First incident happened in 2006, but 2009 is when the wheels got turning about the possible foul play, so the question is why wasnt an internal investigation begun a long time ago by Murdoch and co.? The only thing Fox news is guilty of at this point is avoiding the story and not giving fair and balanced coverage.

Chico23231 07-15-2011 12:03 PM

re: Murdoch, Fox News & the Hacking Scandal
 
[quote=firstdown;810971]Your totally wrong about that. I see it all the time. So if I'm lying on applications my boss should get fired along with his boss etc... Now if the boss is found to be covering up the lying then they are just as guilty.[/quote]

Disagree. But to your quote of covering up...yeah thats pretty bad and I feel its not that deep. But there is negligence or worse willful negligence, Murdoch is just as responsible. Like I said before,there were major suspicions of these acts several years ago, he should have eradicated it immediately from his corporation. If you hear of possible fraud within a company, you handle it immediately, right FD? These are not minor allegations.

Chico23231 07-15-2011 12:38 PM

re: Murdoch, Fox News & the Hacking Scandal
 
[quote=firstdown;810978]I have to say I don't know enough about the whole thing but if he knew there was a problem then your right he should have look into it then. [B]Now go back and watch more Fox News[/B].[/quote]

"Dont make me call your bluff" **pushes away from the negotiating table, and exits the room**

CooleyAsCanBe 07-15-2011 04:17 PM

re: Murdoch, Fox News & the Hacking Scandal
 
The best part about the Murdoch scandal is that Hugh Grant, yes the Divine Brown actor, is involved: wearing a wire to get information and publishing pieces in the paper. I guess it's somewhat sweet justice for him, given his hatred of papparazzi and the fact that his phone was one that was hacked. Couldn't make this stuff up for a movie.

Here's his article: [url=http://www.newstatesman.com/newspapers/2011/04/phone-yeah-cameron-murdoch]New Statesman - The bugger, bugged[/url]

saden1 07-15-2011 04:36 PM

re: Murdoch, Fox News & the Hacking Scandal
 
[quote=Chico23231;810966]So the buck doesnt stop there? Like any corporation or administration, if someone commits something as egregious within his organization such as this, the "i knew nothing" defense usually does absolve the top person. First incident happened in 2006, but 2009 is when the wheels got turning about the possible foul play, so the question is why wasnt an internal investigation begun a long time ago by Murdoch and co.? The only thing Fox news is guilty of at this point is avoiding the story and not giving fair and balanced coverage.[/quote]

Your expectation of Fox News is rather high. MSNBC is no different covering internal scandals. Buck stops with Murdoch and he has shut down the paper entirely....what more do you want?

Chico23231 07-15-2011 05:01 PM

re: Murdoch, Fox News & the Hacking Scandal
 
[quote=CooleyAsCanBe;811022]The best part about the Murdoch scandal is that Hugh Grant, yes the Divine Brown actor, is involved: wearing a wire to get information and publishing pieces in the paper. I guess it's somewhat sweet justice for him, given his hatred of papparazzi and the fact that his phone was one that was hacked. Couldn't make this stuff up for a movie.

Here's his article: [url=http://www.newstatesman.com/newspapers/2011/04/phone-yeah-cameron-murdoch]New Statesman - The bugger, bugged[/url][/quote]

thats funny

GMScud 07-16-2011 01:43 PM

re: Murdoch, Fox News & the Hacking Scandal
 
[quote=saden1;811030]Your expectation of Fox News is rather high. MSNBC is no different covering internal scandals. Buck stops with Murdoch and he has shut down the paper entirely....what more do you want?[/quote]

Great post.

/thread

NC_Skins 07-17-2011 12:27 AM

re: Murdoch, Fox News & the Hacking Scandal
 
For good news reporting on America, tune in here.

[url=http://www.bbc.co.uk/]BBC - Homepage[/url]

[url=http://www.cnn.com/]CNN.com - Breaking News, U.S., World, Weather, Entertainment & Video News[/url]

If people are still tuning into the likes of Fox, then you understand why Americans are so brainwashed. HERP DERP! BUT FOX SAYS ITS TRUE!! /facepalm

SmootSmack 07-17-2011 10:09 AM

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[url=http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-14178051]BBC News - Rebekah Brooks arrested by hacking police[/url]

Chico23231 07-17-2011 10:20 AM

Re: Murdoch, Fox News & the Hacking Scandal
 
[quote=saden1;811030]Your expectation of Fox News is rather high. MSNBC is no different covering internal scandals. Buck stops with Murdoch and he has shut down the paper entirely....what more do you want?[/quote]

The shutdown was appropriate as well as the apology by Murdoch which was sincere(egg on face was not dry from losing Sky News deal). A) would like Fox to abide by its own reporting standards now and in future B) thorough investigation by the FBI and justice department.

I dont think any horrendous scandel like these has every plagued MSNBC...oh was Imus on MSNBC with his balant racist comments, he of course is the exception.

Murdoch and co. are deffenently getting a healthy dose of its own medicine and deservingly so. Public smear campaigns by fox get old, so its nice to see an actual fact-base embarrassment for him and his company.

dblanch66 07-17-2011 10:23 AM

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And the difference with what News of the World was doing and the civil rights and unconstitutional violation of privacy allowed by the Patriot Act is ....what?

dmek25 07-17-2011 03:06 PM

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that damned left leaning media. they cant get anything right:)

SmootSmack 07-18-2011 03:38 PM

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[url=http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011/jul/18/news-of-the-world-sean-hoare]News of the World phone-hacking whistleblower found dead | Media | The Guardian[/url]

Chico23231 07-18-2011 03:52 PM

Re: Murdoch, Fox News & the Hacking Scandal
 
[quote=SmootSmack;811363][url=http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011/jul/18/news-of-the-world-sean-hoare]News of the World phone-hacking whistleblower found dead | Media | The Guardian[/url][/quote]

"The death is currently being treated as unexplained, but not thought to be suspicious. Police investigations into this incident are ongoing."

So unexplained is not suspicious? Not exactly the Sherlock Holmes style investigation being given to a guy in the middle of a sh*t storm.

SmootSmack 07-18-2011 09:35 PM

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[url=http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-07-18/news-corp-said-to-consider-naming-chase-carey-as-ceo-suceeding-murdoch.html]News Corp. Said to Consider Chase Carey as CEO - Bloomberg[/url]

SmootSmack 07-19-2011 11:19 AM

Re: Murdoch, Fox News & the Hacking Scandal
 
Any one else watching Rupert and James Murdoch testify this morning?

saden1 07-19-2011 11:24 AM

Re: Murdoch, Fox News & the Hacking Scandal
 
[quote=SmootSmack;811498]Any one else watching Rupert and James Murdoch testify this morning?[/quote]

I'm watching it on Fox News.

Chico23231 07-19-2011 11:29 AM

Re: Murdoch, Fox News & the Hacking Scandal
 
[quote=SmootSmack;811498]Any one else watching Rupert and James Murdoch testify this morning?[/quote]

been listening in a little bit...kinda of a bore what ive heard.

12thMan 07-19-2011 12:36 PM

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[quote=saden1;811502]I'm watching it on Fox News.[/quote]

funny dude.

SmootSmack 07-19-2011 01:20 PM

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[url=http://mashable.com/2011/07/19/rupert-murdoch-attacked-video/]Rupert Murdoch Attacked During Phone Hacking Hearing [VIDEO][/url]

Chico23231 07-19-2011 01:49 PM

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[quote=SmootSmack;811522][url=http://mashable.com/2011/07/19/rupert-murdoch-attacked-video/]Rupert Murdoch Attacked During Phone Hacking Hearing [VIDEO][/url][/quote]

I really feel sorry for him. Poor guy, like he said, he did nothing wrong.

Longtimefan 07-19-2011 04:59 PM

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In seven national newspapers Murdoch apologized to the British public for the unethical and possibly illegal activities his now-defunct Sunday tabloid News of the World carried out in the name of journalism including charges of phone hacking and bribery of police officials.

"We are sorry," Murdoch says in full-page ads. The News of the World was in the business of holding others to account. It failed when it came to itself. We are sorry for the serious wrongdoing that occurred. We are deeply sorry for the hurt suffered by the individuals affected." Apology is a word used all to often of late.


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