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Monkeydad 07-27-2011 02:11 PM

NFL Player Holdouts - 2011
 
So far:

DeSean Jackson (who knows why...)
Frank Gore (demanding new contract)



It's a relevant topic but did not want to clutter up the FA threads with it.

SmootSmack 07-27-2011 02:14 PM

Re: NFL Player Holdouts - 2011
 
Chris Johnson and Osi Umenyiora may also be on that list

Monkeydad 07-27-2011 02:14 PM

Re: NFL Player Holdouts - 2011
 
Osi Umenyiora threatening, saying he's "ready to hold out". Money.

GMScud 07-27-2011 02:15 PM

Re: NFL Player Holdouts - 2011
 
[quote=Monkeydad;814192]So far:

[B]DeSean Jackson (who knows why...)[/B]
Frank Gore (demanding new contract)



It's a relevant topic but did not want to clutter up the FA threads with it.[/quote]
Really? Kind of a no-brainer. I don't blame him. He's currently very underpaid for what he's done on the field. They need to lock him up.

Mechanix544 07-27-2011 02:28 PM

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yes, they need to pay that man his money. He is working for chump change, especially when you think that santana moss is making quadruple your salary......and your name is desean jackson........

mooby 07-27-2011 04:08 PM

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Jackson is obvious. Dude's a massive playmaker, one of the most electric players in the game, and he's still on his rookie deal and getting paid 550k this season. I'd be pissed too if I were him.

Giantone 07-27-2011 04:25 PM

Re: NFL Player Holdouts - 2011
 
[quote=Monkeydad;814199]Osi Umenyiora threatening, saying he's "ready to hold out". Money.[/quote]


Yup , frankly he's a good End and a great pass rusher but that's it...not very good against the run and still has 2 years left on his contract....let him sit....FH!

Longtimefan 07-27-2011 04:30 PM

Re: NFL Player Holdouts - 2011
 
This is not the year for holdouts.

Ruhskins 07-27-2011 04:44 PM

Re: NFL Player Holdouts - 2011
 
[quote=GMScud;814209]Really? Kind of a no-brainer. I don't blame him. He's currently very underpaid for what he's done on the field. They need to lock him up.[/quote]

And good luck for him trying to get paid by the Eagles. Don't see that happening.

Monkeydad 07-29-2011 11:14 AM

Re: NFL Player Holdouts - 2011
 
DeSean is underpaid for what he's done, but he has signed a contract and should play for it...just as Haynesworth should have played after signing his. Sure he's worth more than his salary but stop crying and fulfill your obligations. Besides, at $560,000 a year, he can't afford to hold out too many days since he's being fined $30,000 a day!


Another one: Chris Johnson

[url=http://twitter.com/#!/jwyattsports/status/96954798401794048]Twitter[/url]

Ruhskins 07-29-2011 11:19 AM

Re: NFL Player Holdouts - 2011
 
[quote=Monkeydad;816053]DeSean is underpaid for what he's done, but he has signed a contract and should play for it...just as Haynesworth should have played after signing his. Sure he's worth more than his salary but stop crying and fulfill your obligations. Besides, at $560,000 a year, he can't afford to hold out too many days since he's being fined $30,000 a day!


Another one: Chris Johnson

[url=http://twitter.com/#!/jwyattsports/status/96954798401794048]Twitter[/url][/quote]

So you don't believe in raises? Teams will try to get the most out of a players and pay the least amount of money. Although they have to pay the guaranteed money, teams also break player contracts when they cut players.

I swear, it baffles me how much normal people can relate to and sympathize with millionaire owners. When a team cuts a player, everyone says "oh it's a business decision", but when a player asks for a raise, everyone piles up on the player.

I don't know much about Gore's or Johnson's situation. But Jackson has been a beast for the Eagles and deserves to be paid more.

SirClintonPortis 07-29-2011 11:31 AM

Re: NFL Player Holdouts - 2011
 
[quote=Ruhskins;816058]So you don't believe in raises? Teams will try to get the most out of a players and pay the least amount of money. Although they have to pay the guaranteed money, teams also break player contracts when they cut players.

I swear, it baffles me how much normal people can relate to and sympathize with millionaire owners. When a team cuts a player, everyone says "oh it's a business decision", but when a player asks for a raise, everyone piles up on the player.

I don't know much about Gore's or Johnson's situation. But Jackson has been a beast for the Eagles and deserves to be paid more.[/quote]

Football players bargain based on how their salary is relative to other football players. However, their actual pay on an "absolute" level is rather substantial, often six figures. Hence, "morals" kick in and identify said player as "selfish".

But ****, some tenant breaks a lease and everyone sympathizes with the tenant against the "evil" landlord even if they totally trash the place.

It's really simple, people love to talk through "principles", but they actually operate under a UTILITARIAN morals.

Monkeydad 07-29-2011 11:34 AM

Re: NFL Player Holdouts - 2011
 
[quote=Ruhskins;816058]So you don't believe in raises? Teams will try to get the most out of a players and pay the least amount of money. Although they have to pay the guaranteed money, teams also break player contracts when they cut players.

I swear, it baffles me how much normal people can relate to and sympathize with millionaire owners. When a team cuts a player, everyone says "oh it's a business decision", but when a player asks for a raise, everyone piles up on the player.

I don't know much about Gore's or Johnson's situation. But Jackson has been a beast for the Eagles and deserves to be paid more.[/quote]

He should absolutely get a raise, he's earned it. But, you don't stop showing up for work until you get a raise. He's not showing much of a work ethic or regard for his team right now...a bit Haynesworthian in a way.

I have no problem if he publicly said "I deserve more money" because it's true...but show up and prove you're worthy of it.

Ruhskins 07-29-2011 11:51 AM

Re: NFL Player Holdouts - 2011
 
[quote=Monkeydad;816077]He should absolutely get a raise, he's earned it. But, you don't stop showing up for work until you get a raise. He's not showing much of a work ethic or regard for his team right now...a bit Haynesworthian in a way.

I have no problem if he publicly said "I deserve more money" because it's true...but show up and prove you're worthy of it.[/quote]

I agree. But unfortunately holding out seems to be the only bargaining chip that the players have.


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