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FRPLG 08-09-2011 10:29 AM

Obama Administration Exempting Schools From Federal Laws Testing Mandate
 
Good move here. The federal laws on this testing stuff are asinine and are ruining our school systems.

[url=http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/duncan-states-will-get-school-testing-wa]Obama Administration Exempting Schools From Federal Law’s Testing Mandate | CNSnews.com[/url]

firstdown 08-09-2011 10:41 AM

Re: Obama Administration Exempting Schools From Federal Laws Testing Mandate
 
He owes all unions so now he is helping the teachers unions. If he really wanted to make real change he would give all the money back to the states and let them run their own education system. Now we send X amounts of dollars to Washington and then get back about half the money.

FRPLG 08-09-2011 10:55 AM

Re: Obama Administration Exempting Schools From Federal Laws Testing Mandate
 
[quote=firstdown;821403]He owes all unions so now he is helping the teachers unions. If he really wanted to make real change he would give all the money back to the states and let them run their own education system. Now we send X amounts of dollars to Washington and then get back about half the money.[/quote]

The federal standards are burdensome and ineffective. You realize the increasing federal standards reach a point of 100% student passage at some point right? It isn't statistically possible for any school to on any type of consistent basis have ALL of their students pass a single test. The point where 100% passage is required will mean that EVERY PUBLIC SCHOOL IN THE COUNTRY WILL FAIL.

Here's another great little tidbit. Right now if a child immigrates to this country and can't speak English and has only basic reading skills (or none at all as is the case sometimes) the school system has one year, ONE TINY F*CKING year, to teach them how to speak English [B]AND[/B] read well enough to pass the same test that a native English speaker who has been in the school system for years has to pass. That is indicative of the inanity of the federal standards. Made by a bunch of politicians who don't a know a single thing about how to educate a populace.

But by all means I am sure this is just Obama bending to the will of the teachers unions.

firstdown 08-09-2011 10:56 AM

Re: Obama Administration Exempting Schools From Federal Laws Testing Mandate
 
From the article:

Montana Schools Superintendent Denise Juneau said she welcomed the waiver proposal, as long as it offers relief from the 2014 deadline. She said her state isn't afraid of high standards and education reform [B]but needs enough time to reach those standards [/B]and freedom to institute change in a way that works for Montana.

Needs enough time? The NCLB was passed in 2002 and 12 yrs later (2014 deadline) is not enough time.

firstdown 08-09-2011 11:04 AM

Re: Obama Administration Exempting Schools From Federal Laws Testing Mandate
 
[quote=FRPLG;821420]The federal standards are burdensome and ineffective. You realize the increasing federal standards reach a point of 100% student passage at some point right? It isn't statistically possible for any school to on any type of consistent basis have ALL of their students pass a single test. The point where 100% passage is required will mean that EVERY PUBLIC SCHOOL IN THE COUNTRY WILL FAIL.

Here's another great little tidbit. Right now if a child immigrates to this country and can't speak English and has only basic reading skills (or none at all as is the case sometimes) the school system has one year, ONE TINY F*CKING year, to teach them how to speak English [B]AND[/B] read well enough to pass the same test that a native English speaker who has been in the school system for years has to pass. That is indicative of the inanity of the federal standards. Made by a bunch of politicians who don't a know a single thing about how to educate a populace.

But by all means I am sure this is just Obama bending to the will of the teachers unions.[/quote]

You make a good argument for doing away with the federal department of education.

FRPLG 08-09-2011 11:11 AM

Re: Obama Administration Exempting Schools From Federal Laws Testing Mandate
 
[quote=firstdown;821421]From the article:

Montana Schools Superintendent Denise Juneau said she welcomed the waiver proposal, as long as it offers relief from the 2014 deadline. She said her state isn't afraid of high standards and education reform [B]but needs enough time to reach those standards [/B]and freedom to institute change in a way that works for Montana.

Needs enough time? The NCLB was passed in 2002 and 12 yrs later (2014 deadline) is not enough time.[/quote]

The standards change every year.

FRPLG 08-09-2011 11:12 AM

Re: Obama Administration Exempting Schools From Federal Laws Testing Mandate
 
[quote=firstdown;821434]You make a good argument for doing away with the federal department of education.[/quote]

But yes I'd be open to that.


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