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mooby 08-18-2011 08:29 PM

Ex-players suing the NFL for negligence
 
[url=http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/6874906/jim-mcmahon-other-former-players-sue-nfl-concussions]Jim McMahon, other former players sue NFL over concussions - ESPN[/url]

I doubt this will drum up much interest, but I think it's interesting. I do tend to believe that in the older days the NFL certainly didn't discourage players from leading with their head, and I'm sure they had to know it wasn't good for the brain either. These ex-players might have something on their hands here.

"The other plaintiffs include offensive tackle Joe Thomas, 26, who left the league in 2010 after five seasons with the Cleveland Browns" -

Does anybody remember reading about this? I was completely unaware Joe Thomas doesn't play for the Browns anymore. I don't even remember reading anything that says he retired. And I don't see how he's played 5 seasons since he was drafted in '07.

FRPLG 08-18-2011 08:36 PM

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Must be a different Joe Thomas.

mooby 08-18-2011 08:40 PM

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[quote=FRPLG;824643]Must be a different Joe Thomas.[/quote]

I think they mixed their facts up. There's no other offensive tackle named Joe Thomas who played for the Browns from 2005-2010, especially considering JT was drafted in 2007 and is still playing.

Lotus 08-18-2011 09:00 PM

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I am not surprised. Although the new CBA does address some retired player issues, it did not go as far as the players wanted.

It seems to me that this is something that the NFL can resolve out-of-court with $$$ and new safety rules. But it will be interesting to see how this plays out. There are some potentially large ramifications for all levels of the game at play here.

mooby 08-18-2011 09:10 PM

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[quote=Lotus;824649]I am not surprised. Although the new CBA does address some retired player issues, it did not go as far as the players wanted.

It seems to me that this is something that the NFL can resolve out-of-court with $$$ and new safety rules. But it will be interesting to see how this plays out. There are some potentially large ramifications for all levels of the game at play here.[/quote]

I pretty much agree with your post, although I do think how much money was devoted to the retirees in the CBA was a big step forward. As far as the lawsuit goes, depending on how much evidence the retirees have, it will probably be settled out-of-court, since the NFL probably doesn't want to take its' chances with a judge.

SmootSmack 08-18-2011 11:06 PM

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Someone must have made an error. JT is still playing. Seems it's been corrected now in the article.

Interesting that Mike Furrey is on that list too. Remember the Mike Furrey era in DC? Almost as memorable as the Bobby Wade era

Giantone 08-19-2011 03:42 AM

Re: Ex-players suing the NFL for negligence
 
[quote=mooby;824642][URL="http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/6874906/jim-mcmahon-other-former-players-sue-nfl-concussions"]Jim McMahon, other former players sue NFL over concussions - ESPN[/URL]

I doubt this will drum up much interest, but I think it's interesting. I do tend to believe that in the older days the NFL certainly didn't discourage players from leading with their head, and I'm sure they had to know it wasn't good for the brain either. These ex-players might have something on their hands here.

.[/quote]

I'll probly get jumped but would'nt you think the players knew also,I mean I know if I drive my car into a wall at 100mph......I might get hurt,so why do it?And then I go after the people who made the car for not making me do it?

irish 08-19-2011 07:38 AM

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[quote=Giantone;824709]I'll probly get jumped but would'nt you think the players knew also,I mean I know if I drive my car into a wall at 100mph......I might get hurt,so why do it?And then I go after the people who made the car for not making me do it?[/quote]

I agree with you. Nobody forced these guys to play football and now they are blaming the NFL for their problems, I just dont buy it.

Longtimefan 08-19-2011 07:52 AM

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The suit alleges the NFL knew as early as the 1920s of the harmful effects of concussions but concealed them from coaches, trainers, players and the public until June 2010. It also names helmet-maker Riddell, the NFL's official helmet supplier.

Hog1 08-19-2011 08:06 AM

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see cigarette lawsuits...It's bad for you? Who...knew?
I regret that these players have, I am sure horrible side effects, they continued to play even though they knew there may be a price to pay....sorry.

irish 08-19-2011 10:15 AM

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From what I have read football helmets were designed to stop players from fracturing their skulls but not designed to reduce concussions. Obviously more work needs done on helmet design.

I also wonder why they are just hitting the NFL & Riddel, why not the NCAA, each players specific college and high school? Surely concussions happened there as well.

Longtimefan 08-19-2011 02:56 PM

Re: Ex-players suing the NFL for negligence
 
[quote=irish;824773]From what I have read football helmets were designed to stop players from fracturing their skulls but not designed to reduce concussions. Obviously more work needs done on helmet design.

I also wonder why they are just hitting the NFL & Riddel, why not the NCAA, each players specific college and high school? Surely concussions happened there as well.[/quote]

The (MTBIC) Mild Traumatic Brain Injury Committee was established by the NFL in 1994 to study the risk of long-term brain injury to players. The suit contends that the committee published "false, distorted and deceiving" findings that the risk was minimal in order to deceive Congress, players and the public.

The NFL only warned active players in June 2010 of the risks associated with multiple concussions and Riddell failed to warn active players until around the same time, the suit claims.

The NFL has never warned past players, according to the suit.

mooby 08-19-2011 10:42 PM

Re: Ex-players suing the NFL for negligence
 
[quote=Giantone;824709]I'll probly get jumped but would'nt you think the players knew also,I mean I know if I drive my car into a wall at 100mph......I might get hurt,so why do it?And then I go after the people who made the car for not making me do it?[/quote]

Well think about it. You want to make the team, prove to the coaches that you will do everything possible you can to be the best player you can be, and you're probably not thinking about your future as much as you're thinking about the present. They probably knew the dangers too and chose to ignore them, so the blame is partly on them too.

SmootSmack 08-19-2011 10:58 PM

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I don't really know why...but this kind of reminds me of the McDonald's "coffee is too hot" lawsuit

Hog1 08-20-2011 08:55 AM

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YES.....it does


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