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dgack 09-28-2011 12:12 AM

Re: WP: Redskinsí Hall takes shots at ref and own coaches after 18-16 loss to Cowboys
 
[quote=Ruhskins;841759]I find it ironic how much D. Hall and his hatters/apologists are alike...they both talk too much and are a usually a big distraction from bigger issues/bigger pictures.

Fans in here become crybabies when it comes to this guy and it is getting kinda old. You'd think there'd be threads complaining about Grossman, the playcalling, the RBs, etc., etc.[/quote]

That's a pretty lame analogy. Hall sometimes says dumb things and doesn't back them up. What that has to do with fans pointing out that he'd be better off just shutting up and playing? That's less clear.

And there's plenty of Grossman and Kyle bashing going on, not sure what gives you the impression there wasn't?

If it's not obvious, the main reason Hall is picked on is the same reason guys like Doughty get treated with kid gloves; nobody likes a guy who runs his mouth and then plays badly. Everyone likes a guy who keeps quiet and tries hard, even if he comes up short.

Ruhskins 09-28-2011 12:17 AM

Re: WP: Redskinsí Hall takes shots at ref and own coaches after 18-16 loss to Cowboys
 
[quote=dgack;841779]That's a pretty lame analogy. Hall sometimes says dumb things and doesn't back them up. What that has to do with fans pointing out that he'd be better off just shutting up and playing? That's less clear.

And there's plenty of Grossman and Kyle bashing going on, not sure what gives you the impression there wasn't?

If it's not obvious, the main reason Hall is picked on is the same reason guys like Doughty get treated with kid gloves; nobody likes a guy who runs his mouth and then plays badly. Everyone likes a guy who keeps quiet and tries hard, even if he comes up short.[/quote]

There's a difference between fans criticizing a guy like Hall (like most of us), and then there are the people that go out of their way to [U]bash or defend[/U] Hall. I think at least one thread has been locked in the past b/c of this somewhat tiring debate about Hall.

I am by no way defending Hall, he makes tons of mistakes, including letting Bryant get a big possession. And he runs his mouth too much and needs to STFU. But personally I don't think he is worth multiple threads. People just loooove to complain I guess.

dgack 09-28-2011 12:25 AM

Re: WP: Redskinsí Hall takes shots at ref and own coaches after 18-16 loss to Cowboys
 
[quote]People just loooove to complain I guess.[/quote]Yeah, that's an understatement. But complaining takes energy and only people who care have the energy to post (whether it's positive or negative).

I'll take complainers who bleed Burgundy and Gold over bandwagoneers like the 90% of Dallas fans who have never set foot in Texas any day of the week.

Ruhskins 09-28-2011 12:26 AM

Re: WP: Redskinsí Hall takes shots at ref and own coaches after 18-16 loss to Cowboys
 
[quote=dgack;841785]Yeah, that's an understatement. But complaining takes energy and only people who care have the energy to post (whether it's positive or negative).

[B]I'll take complainers who bleed Burgundy and Gold over bandwagoneers like the 90% of Dallas fans who have never set foot in Texas any day of the week.[/B][/quote]

Good point.

SmootSmack 09-28-2011 12:56 AM

Re: WP: Redskinsí Hall takes shots at ref and own coaches after 18-16 loss to Cowboys
 
I mean a lot of people made some glaring mistakes yesterday. Barnes and his PI, Jammal Brown and his poor blocking in the 4th, Kyle and his playcalling, Rex and his ugly INT and fumble, Gaffney and his poor clock management, Banks and his poor field management, Rocca and his poor hands, and so on...but no one but Hall went and threw others under the bus after the game.

If this thread was only about Hall blowing the play the thread wouldn't have lasted this long. But it's more than that

Bucket 09-28-2011 01:00 AM

Re: WP: Redskinsí Hall takes shots at ref and own coaches after 18-16 loss to Cowboys
 
Sorry, but the play call was terrible.. Romo couldn't even throw the ball 20 yards last night and we knew what targets he was going after.. 5 man rush, and drop back in coverage while padding over Whitten/Bryant would of been the better Defensive Call..

Defense played well all night, but the offensive play calling was horrid. I feel like Rex Grossman was held back from playing his type of football Monday night.. If they would of unloaded like they did the first two games and stopped all the timid play calling then things might of went another way..

I dont remember seeing 1 bootleg monday night

Ruhskins 09-28-2011 01:39 AM

Re: WP: Redskinsí Hall takes shots at ref and own coaches after 18-16 loss to Cowboys
 
[quote=SmootSmack;841795]I mean a lot of people made some glaring mistakes yesterday. Barnes and his PI, Jammal Brown and his poor blocking in the 4th, Kyle and his playcalling, Rex and his ugly INT and fumble, Gaffney and his poor clock management, Banks and his poor field management, Rocca and his poor hands, and so on...[B]but no one but Hall went and threw others under the bus after the game.[/B]

If this thread was only about Hall blowing the play the thread wouldn't have lasted this long. But it's more than that[/quote]

I will be curious to see how Shanahan handles this situation. Let's hope it is handled better than the Haynesworth circus last year. Otherwise, we are in for another circus year.

Also, there needs to be locker room leadership from someone (Fletch?) to go up to Hall and smack him around for saying stupid things like that.

Hall deserves all the criticism that goes his way, however, players like him happen in the league. I hope Shanahan can take care of this situation.

Bucket 09-28-2011 01:42 AM

Re: WP: Redskinsí Hall takes shots at ref and own coaches after 18-16 loss to Cowboys
 
Hall is Hall... He's emotional and wants to win. He wont hold back those emotions, and I think he played a good game Monday night, and hes been playing well so far this season.

Could be worse... He could be Commartie from the Jets and have like 15 PI calls

Ruhskins 09-28-2011 01:47 AM

Re: WP: Redskinsí Hall takes shots at ref and own coaches after 18-16 loss to Cowboys
 
[quote=Bucket;841809]Hall is Hall... He's emotional and wants to win. He wont hold back those emotions, and I think he played a good game Monday night, and hes been playing well so far this season.

Could be worse... He could be Commartie from the Jets and have like 15 PI calls[/quote]

But he's also a team captain and should know better. And if not, the team needs to figure out how to make him know better.

SmootSmack 09-28-2011 01:48 AM

Re: WP: Redskinsí Hall takes shots at ref and own coaches after 18-16 loss to Cowboys
 
[quote=Bucket;841809]Hall is Hall... He's emotional and wants to win. He wont hold back those emotions, and I think he played a good game Monday night, and hes been playing well so far this season.

Could be worse... He could be Commartie from the Jets and have like 15 PI calls[/quote]

Ok, did anyone else think this post was going to end with "kids" and not "PI calls"

mooby 09-28-2011 01:59 AM

Re: WP: Redskinsí Hall takes shots at ref and own coaches after 18-16 loss to Cowboys
 
[quote=SmootSmack;841811]Ok, did anyone else think this post was going to end with "kids" and not "PI calls"[/quote]

LMAO I thought the same thing. I even started thinking up a response like "what do his kids have to do with this" and I think I was like PI calls? Where did I get kids from. GC SS, GC indeed.

skinsnut 09-28-2011 02:02 AM

Re: WP: Redskinsí Hall takes shots at ref and own coaches after 18-16 loss to Cowboys
 
Hall needs to just shut the hell up and cover his receiver

GTripp0012 09-28-2011 03:32 AM

Re: WP: Redskinsí Hall takes shots at ref and own coaches after 18-16 loss to Cowboys
 
I don't know how much to trust the PFF grades, given that the grades are done from tape of the television feed variety, and they have no choice to assign grades without knowing the coverages, but Hall and Kevin Barnes are tied for 81st in their corner grades this year (95 qualified).

The no. 1 corner, per their rankings: Carlos Rogers.

I have to think that when Phillip Buchanon comes back, there will be a need for his abilities. I don't know whose going to get displaced, but PB can make us a better team.

tryfuhl 09-28-2011 07:50 AM

Re: WP: Redskinsí Hall takes shots at ref and own coaches after 18-16 loss to Cowboys
 
[quote=SmootSmack;841811]Ok, did anyone else think this post was going to end with "kids" and not "PI calls"[/quote]
Lol!

Giantone 09-28-2011 08:23 AM

Re: WP: Redskinsí Hall takes shots at ref and own coaches after 18-16 loss to Cowboys
 
[quote=SmootSmack;841811]Ok, did anyone else think this post was going to end with "kids" and not "PI calls"[/quote]


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