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NC_Skins 09-27-2011 09:01 AM

WP: Redskins’ Hall takes shots at ref and own coaches after 18-16 loss to Cowboys
 
[url=http://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/redskins/redskins-hall-takes-shots-at-ref-and-own-coaches-after-18-16-loss-to-cowboys/2011/09/27/gIQA0Fuv0K_story.html]Redskins’ Hall takes shots at ref and own coaches after 18-16 loss to Cowboys - The Washington Post[/url]


[quote]The drive was extended when Romo avoided a rush on a third-and-21 play and hit Dez Bryant for a 30-yard completion. Bryant was dragged down by Hall, who was flagged for a facemask penalty that tacked another 15 yards on the play.

“I told the ref after that call, that might have been his worst call of the game,” Hall said during an expletive-filled rant. “He’s going to get demerit points for that call. Because that wasn’t no facemask.”[/quote]


[quote]On the play the Redskins had eight men on the line — another thing that irked Hall.

“Sooner or later, someone’s going to (expletive) figure it out,” Hall said. “You don’t have to be a rocket scientist. ... The end result was a first down.”[/quote]

**** this guy. I can't wait till this asshole is off this team. The nerve of this jackass to blame anybody but himself for those plays. He did grab the face mask and he did blow the coverage.

Chico23231 09-27-2011 09:04 AM

Re: WP: Redskins’ Hall takes shots at ref and own coaches after 18-16 loss to Cowboys
 
Cant blame the refs...much like the Vicks comments after a loss, im letting it go

Longtimefan 09-27-2011 09:15 AM

Re: WP: Redskins’ Hall takes shots at ref and own coaches after 18-16 loss to Cowboys
 
I've got the perfect antidote for D. Hall....It's called a muzzle!!!

tryfuhl 09-27-2011 09:17 AM

Re: WP: Redskins’ Hall takes shots at ref and own coaches after 18-16 loss to Cowboys
 
Saying what we all feel... but we are fans... def shouldn't have called out coach Haslett

SirClintonPortis 09-27-2011 09:21 AM

Re: WP: Redskins’ Hall takes shots at ref and own coaches after 18-16 loss to Cowboys
 
Speaks the truth, but maybe he should man up and start trying to be an elite man cover corner....oh wait, this guy is closer to 30 than 20.

irish 09-27-2011 09:23 AM

Re: WP: Redskins’ Hall takes shots at ref and own coaches after 18-16 loss to Cowboys
 
Hall is a loudmouth bum who never seems to back up his talk. He seems to have assumed Portis' role as head fault finder.

Slingin Sammy 33 09-27-2011 09:36 AM

Re: WP: Redskins’ Hall takes shots at ref and own coaches after 18-16 loss to Cowboys
 
As soon as we have a better option at corner and it makes sense contractually, Hall will be gone.

Sometimes it's better to just STFU. When a mic is stuck in your face after a loss like this it's OK to say, "No Comment".

NC_Skins 09-27-2011 09:37 AM

Re: WP: Redskins’ Hall takes shots at ref and own coaches after 18-16 loss to Cowboys
 
[quote=Slingin Sammy 33;841400]Sometimes it's better to just STFU. When a mic is stuck in your face after a loss like this it's OK to say, "No Comment".[/quote]


Takes me back to this quote.


"Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt."

hail_2_da_skins 09-27-2011 09:52 AM

Re: WP: Redskins’ Hall takes shots at ref and own coaches after 18-16 loss to Cowboys
 
Hall should have kept his mouth shut earlier in the week when he said Romo ribs were going to be a target. He seems to always tell the press the obvious. He could have kept that statement to himself. The all out blitz on 3rd and 21 was a bad call. As a player, keep your criticism to yourself or you have a one on one with the coaches.

sportscurmudgeon 09-27-2011 09:52 AM

Re: WP: Redskins’ Hall takes shots at ref and own coaches after 18-16 loss to Cowboys
 
[quote=NC_Skins;841401]Takes me back to this quote.


"Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt."[/quote]


Very true.

In addition, this is very probably the FIRST time that Abraham Lincoln has been quoted on The Warpath.

Lotus 09-27-2011 09:56 AM

Re: WP: Redskins’ Hall takes shots at ref and own coaches after 18-16 loss to Cowboys
 
Hall has an argument on the facemask. Since they changed the rules a facemask is supposed to be more egregious than that.

But you don't call out the refs or Haslett in that forum. Not the right place, not the right time.

Hog1 09-27-2011 09:59 AM

Re: WP: Redskins’ Hall takes shots at ref and own coaches after 18-16 loss to Cowboys
 
Not to worry....he'll be a Patriot next season.......

skinsfaninok 09-27-2011 09:59 AM

Re: WP: Redskins’ Hall takes shots at ref and own coaches after 18-16 loss to Cowboys
 
It is what it is folks, we all know 23 by now

SFREDSKIN 09-27-2011 10:04 AM

Re: WP: Redskins’ Hall takes shots at ref and own coaches after 18-16 loss to Cowboys
 
Even Carlos would have defended the pass. Time to get rid of this clown.

skinsfaninok 09-27-2011 10:08 AM

Re: WP: Redskins’ Hall takes shots at ref and own coaches after 18-16 loss to Cowboys
 
Say what u want but he's a solid CB, yeah talks shit but we can't just cut him for Joe Blow

SmootSmack 09-27-2011 10:19 AM

Re: WP: Redskins’ Hall takes shots at ref and own coaches after 18-16 loss to Cowboys
 
[quote=sportscurmudgeon;841414]Very true.

In addition, this is very probably the FIRST time that Abraham Lincoln has been quoted on The Warpath.[/quote]

Ahem...

[url]http://www.thewarpath.net/234592-post27.html[/url]

[url]http://www.thewarpath.net/433614-post4.html[/url]

[url]http://www.thewarpath.net/685007-post143.html[/url]

...jeez I really overused that phrase it seems

MTK 09-27-2011 10:20 AM

Re: WP: Redskins’ Hall takes shots at ref and own coaches after 18-16 loss to Cowboys
 
[quote=skinsfaninok;841421]It is what it is folks, we all know 23 by now[/quote]

Yup I agree.

I honestly don't care anymore either.

SmootSmack 09-27-2011 10:20 AM

Re: WP: Redskins’ Hall takes shots at ref and own coaches after 18-16 loss to Cowboys
 
I wish Hall would keep quiet, though he does blame himself often. He's such a polarizing figure

BringBackJoeT 09-27-2011 10:22 AM

Re: WP: Redskins’ Hall takes shots at ref and own coaches after 18-16 loss to Cowboys
 
I'm not as upset about his tendency to shoot off in front of a mic as I am about his tendency to get in the face of opposing players who have just converted first downs. That happened at least twice last night, and it really p***ed me off.

44ever 09-27-2011 10:22 AM

Re: WP: Redskins’ Hall takes shots at ref and own coaches after 18-16 loss to Cowboys
 
First off Hall did not get burned on the play. The setup was flawed from the start with zero support. No corner could have covered that and Hall did make the tackle. The facemask was a 5 yarder at best but did not deserve the flag at all IMO. Hall never said he would be perfect on every play, he said he was going after Romo, coaches should have given him the chance but they didn't. OK the Hall bandwagon is a little lighter this week. Hall is still one of the best corners in the NFL.

sandtrapjack 09-27-2011 10:26 AM

[QUOTE=44ever;841436]First off Hall did not get burned on the play. The setup was flawed from the start with zero support. No corner could have covered that and Hall did make the tackle. The facemask was a 5 yarder at best but did not deserve the flag at all IMO. Hall never said he would be perfect on every play, he said he was going after Romo, coaches should have given him the chance but they didn't. OK the Hall bandwagon is a little lighter this week. Hall is still one of the best corners in the NFL.[/QUOTE]

Theres no such thing as a 5 yard face mask penalty anymore. They are all 15 yard personal fouls.
There were questionable calls and no calls on both sides of the ball the entire game.

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44ever 09-27-2011 10:29 AM

Re: WP: Redskins’ Hall takes shots at ref and own coaches after 18-16 loss to Cowboys
 
[quote=sandtrapjack;841442]Theres no such thing as a 5 yard face mask penalty anymore. They are all 15 yard personal fouls

Sent from my Xoom using Tapatalk[/quote]

Yes I know. My point was it was undeserving of a penalty. I thought you would be headhunting me this morning. I would not be so bold if I were you, Dallas looked pretty shitty last night as well.

SouperMeister 09-27-2011 10:30 AM

Re: WP: Redskins’ Hall takes shots at ref and own coaches after 18-16 loss to Cowboys
 
There isn't a corner in the league that will cover Bryant with that much space to defend when the blitz doesn't get to Romo. I understand D. Hall's frustration being put in the situation, but obviously, he needs to keep his comments behind closed doors.

GMScud 09-27-2011 10:31 AM

Re: WP: Redskins’ Hall takes shots at ref and own coaches after 18-16 loss to Cowboys
 
[quote=SmootSmack;841433]I wish Hall would keep quiet, though he does blame himself often. He's such a polarizing figure[/quote]

I think he's a bit of an ass. He can't have it both ways. He's been outspoken about the fact that he wants to cover the opponent's best WR all the time, and then when he gets the chance he wets the bed (L Fitz last week, Dez last night). Then he's gonna cry that he didn't have any help and call out Haslett?

Sorry, D-Hall. You're not elite. I'm glad you've started taking lessons in tackling this year, but when you get what you ask for and don't deliver, keep your mouth shut or take the blame. Crybaby.

tc2deuce 09-27-2011 10:37 AM

Re: WP: Redskins’ Hall takes shots at ref and own coaches after 18-16 loss to Cowboys
 
I hope London slaps the ^#% out of him! DHall will win you games and he will cost you games.

skinsfan69 09-27-2011 10:44 AM

Re: WP: Redskins’ Hall takes shots at ref and own coaches after 18-16 loss to Cowboys
 
The facemask call was bad but they got one too. We got a break on the personal foul when Santana got hit in the chest yet the ref said it was a head shot. Maybe the worst call of the year. Last night the refs were pure garbage.

Alvin Walton 09-27-2011 10:51 AM

Re: WP: Redskins’ Hall takes shots at ref and own coaches after 18-16 loss to Cowboys
 
I agree about the bad officiating. We also got away with at least two false starts that were quite obvious.

Longtimefan 09-27-2011 10:52 AM

Re: WP: Redskins’ Hall takes shots at ref and own coaches after 18-16 loss to Cowboys
 
I agree with the coach....Coach Mike Shanahan defended Haslett’s decision, saying “You could go back and second-guess everything. At the end of the day, we had a chance to have the sack there, and he did a good job scrambling, made a play, and hey, it happens. That’s the nature of this game. … Hey, it didn’t work, and Romo made a play.”

Had we gotten the sack there, second guessing would not have been an option. The tally would have been what a great job the defense did..... S**t happens.

#56fanatic 09-27-2011 10:56 AM

Re: WP: Redskins’ Hall takes shots at ref and own coaches after 18-16 loss to Cowboys
 
Hall needs to watch the replay. his hand was on his facemask, right in front of the ref, they are going to call that everytime. He wants to call his own # on blitzes and cover this guy and that guy when he wants (remember last years comments) then his # gets called and he doesn't deliver. I think its bushleague to blame the coaching staff and the refs. He missed the play, it happens. Accept blame and move on. Had he made the int or knocked the ball down he'd be "coach had confidence in my shut down ability and left me alone, thats what I want everygame. I can handle anyone 1 on 1!)

skinsfan69 09-27-2011 10:57 AM

Re: WP: Redskins’ Hall takes shots at ref and own coaches after 18-16 loss to Cowboys
 
[quote=Longtimefan;841464]I agree with the coach....Coach Mike Shanahan defended Haslett’s decision, saying “You could go back and second-guess everything. At the end of the day, we had a chance to have the sack there, and he did a good job scrambling, made a play, and hey, it happens. That’s the nature of this game. … Hey, it didn’t work, and Romo made a play.”

Had we gotten the sack there, second guessing would not have been an option. The tally would have been what a great job the defense did..... S**t happens.[/quote]

Yeah but when the game's on the line you can't leave Hall exposed on a 3rd a 21. If it were in the 1st or 2nd q then fine.

44ever 09-27-2011 10:59 AM

Re: WP: Redskins’ Hall takes shots at ref and own coaches after 18-16 loss to Cowboys
 
[quote=skinsfan69;841466]Yeah but when the game's on the line [B]you can't leave Hall exposed on a 3rd a 21[/B]. If it were in the 1st or 2nd q then fine.[/quote]

^^^^^ The playcall was wrong plain and simple...

sandtrapjack 09-27-2011 11:00 AM

Re: WP: Redskins’ Hall takes shots at ref and own coaches after 18-16 loss to Cowboys
 
[quote=44ever;841443]Yes I know. My point was it was undeserving of a penalty. I thought you would be headhunting me this morning. I would not be so bold if I were you, Dallas looked pretty shitty last night as well.[/quote]
LoL, shitty is an understatement. But that was expected considering the injuries and the practice time the week leading up to the game.

For the week leading up to last night, I never expected or predicted that outcome, I thought the Redskins were coming out 3-0.

But I suppose teams have to learn to "win ugly" as well as win convincingly, if that makes any sense.

over the mountain 09-27-2011 11:08 AM

Re: WP: Redskins’ Hall takes shots at ref and own coaches after 18-16 loss to Cowboys
 
[quote=SouperMeister;841445]There isn't a corner in the league that will cover Bryant with that much space to defend when the blitz doesn't get to Romo. I understand D. Hall's frustration being put in the situation, but obviously, he needs to keep his comments behind closed doors.[/quote]

yeah, im not a big fan of d hall, i dont hate the man either but i dont blame him for the dez catch.

it was basically him and dez alone on that entire half of the field (the side of the field romo would roll to since hes right handed and not have to throw across his body), alone for 5 plus seconds with dez ... most WR could get separation in that situation.

im surprised so many call in fans are blaming hall. oh well . . .should have never put 7-8 down lineman in that situation imo . . . basically told romo what you were going to do and he knew he had to roll back and to his right, buy time until dez got some room on hall . . .

44ever 09-27-2011 11:10 AM

Re: WP: Redskins’ Hall takes shots at ref and own coaches after 18-16 loss to Cowboys
 
[quote=sandtrapjack;841470]LoL, shitty is an understatement. But that was expected considering the injuries and the practice time the week leading up to the game.

For the week leading up to last night, I never expected or predicted that outcome, I thought the Redskins were coming out 3-0.

But I suppose teams have to learn to "win ugly" as well as win convincingly, if that makes any sense.[/quote]

Cowboys got it done. I cant argue with the facts.

skinsfaninok 09-27-2011 11:11 AM

Re: WP: Redskins’ Hall takes shots at ref and own coaches after 18-16 loss to Cowboys
 
Can't hate on Dallas for our shitty mistakes

Ruhskins 09-27-2011 11:18 AM

Re: WP: Redskins’ Hall takes shots at ref and own coaches after 18-16 loss to Cowboys
 
D. Hall should keep his mouth shut. However, until I hear it (or see it) from Mike Shanahan that Hall is a troublemaker, I'm not going to act like this guy is a Haynesworth-like problem. The Redskins got bigger problems than D. Hall in my opinion, and they are not going to win consistently until they fix them.

sdskinsfan2001 09-27-2011 11:19 AM

Re: WP: Redskins’ Hall takes shots at ref and own coaches after 18-16 loss to Cowboys
 
[quote=NC_Skins;841401]Takes me back to this quote.


"Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt."[/quote]

That has been the first time that I have got close to laughing. I woke up just as depressed as I was when I went to sleep. I dont blame Hall for giving up that completion. Dez Bryant is a hard guy to cover with literally 50 yards of field all to himself. And it was a shitty call by Haslett, but yeah you still cant call him out. Real leaders take the blame for losses/bad plays even when it not their fault.

Longtimefan 09-27-2011 11:23 AM

Re: WP: Redskins’ Hall takes shots at ref and own coaches after 18-16 loss to Cowboys
 
[quote=skinsfan69;841466]Yeah but when the game's on the line you can't leave Hall exposed on a 3rd a 21. If it were in the 1st or 2nd q then fine.[/quote]

There's an old saying...the same thing that makes you laugh will make you cry.

Last week we won a game on the other teams mistake, last night we lost a game on our own mistake. Time to move on to the next one.

dgack 09-27-2011 11:24 AM

Re: WP: Redskins’ Hall takes shots at ref and own coaches after 18-16 loss to Cowboys
 
[quote=skinsfaninok;841478]Can't hate on Dallas for our shitty mistakes[/quote]

While this is true, I can still hate on Dallas, for the simple fact that the media love-fest for Romo is (once again) covering up for the fact that their team was really, really bad last night. (Anyone want odds that this wasn't a fluke?)

DeAngelo Hall has always been a mediocre player who makes a couple of highlight reel plays a year and gets burned just as frequently, if not more. The problem is all the yapping. We expunged guys like Haynesworth and Portis for similar attitudes. The main difference between those guys and Hall seems to be that Hall practices hard.

Maybe Fletcher and 30 will tell him to shut the hell up and let his play do the talking for the rest of the year. Haslett should bench his ass for calling out the coaches, though. Right or not, you just don't do that.

skinsguy 09-27-2011 11:31 AM

Re: WP: Redskins’ Hall takes shots at ref and own coaches after 18-16 loss to Cowboys
 
I always say, good teams find a way to overcome poor officiating.


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