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SkinItup 12-30-2011 07:48 PM

What is RG3 worth to us?
 
So in response to the Andrew Luck thread, What if any thing are you willing to give up to get RG3?

I like RG3 and think he could be a star at the next level, but with that said, I don't think he is worth trading away any future 1st round picks for. He is worth a high pick based on potential, not current performance.

He could prove to be better prospect thorough the draft process but as of now I wont give more than 2012 1st and 4th to trade up for him.

SkinzWin 12-30-2011 09:23 PM

Re: What is RG3 worth to us?
 
[quote=SkinItup;871254]So in response to the Andrew Luck thread, What if any thing are you willing to give up to get RG3?

I like RG3 and think he could be a star at the next level, but with that said, I don't think he is worth trading away any future 1st round picks for. He is worth a high pick based on potential, not current performance.

He could prove to be better prospect thorough the draft process but as of now I wont give more than 2012 1st and 4th to trade up for him.[/quote]

But unless the Redskins change their offense to fit his style of play, which I do not believe they will do, is it worth giving up that much for a player who may not even been the best possible choice at QB for the offensive system we run? I don't think so.

GusFrerotte 12-30-2011 10:36 PM

Re: What is RG3 worth to us?
 
Hey listen, the QB position is very, very deep this draft. If RG III is gone by the time our pick comes we have plenty of guys there to still consider. I think this stuff about focusing on one guy as our savior is a big mistake. An even bigger one is giving up draft picks for a guy who may be a bust in the NFL, and that goes for any QB prospect, including Luck. We are very lean depthwise on defense and linemen. Giving up picks to fill those needs is dumb. Luck or RG III or whomever we land is going to suck if our line isn't upgraded.

redskin29633 12-30-2011 11:19 PM

Re: What is RG3 worth to us?
 
[quote=SkinItup;871254]So in response to the Andrew Luck thread, What if any thing are you willing to give up to get RG3?

I like RG3 and think he could be a star at the next level, but with that said, I don't think he is worth trading away any future 1st round picks for. He is worth a high pick based on potential, not current performance.

He could prove to be better prospect thorough the draft process but as of now I wont give more than 2012 1st and 4th to trade up for him.[/quote]

I would give up nothing to get him. Redskins should dump Beck, notwithstanding the $1,000,000 we owe him for 2012. We should re-sign Grossman; also sign Hoyer, Quinn, Henne, or another comparable FA QB. Let Grossman and Hoyer/Quinn/Henne compete for the starting job. That strategy should result in improved play at the QB position. Then get the best QB we can when our turn comes in the draft and groom him for the future. The goal should be to make the team better, and by making the QB position better that will happen. We could all wait "forever" for the next franchise QB; there are no guarantees that RGIII, or even Luck, would be that special guy. Just get better at QB and continue improving the team is the best strategy.

Big C 12-31-2011 07:58 AM

Re: What is RG3 worth to us?
 
[quote=GusFrerotte;871270]Hey listen, the QB position is very, very deep this draft. If RG III is gone by the time our pick comes we have plenty of guys there to still consider.[/quote]

i disagree. i do not think there is much top-end talent at qb in this draft. landry jones had a very bad end to the season and may not come out this year. RG3 may not even come out. at this point, there may only be 2 1st round qbs assuming RG3 comes out. thats not depth. if we miss on luck and rg3, we will likely be waiting til round 2 to get a qb, and tannehill doesnt wow me either. foles could be an option but again not much of a wow prospect either.

Chico23231 12-31-2011 08:28 AM

Re: What is RG3 worth to us?
 
If we have the ability to jump a couple spots ahead of Cleveland to get him, by all means do it. Tremendous upside and ability. send a 3rd to Jacksonville for a couple spots and nab him

skinsfan69 12-31-2011 09:28 AM

Re: What is RG3 worth to us?
 
Real tough decision but this organization needs a player to get the fans excited again. Right now the excitment level for this team is at an all time low. Fans from opposing teams invade our stadium, a lot of the fans just don't care anymore. As an older fan, to me that's sad. If RG3 has the potential to be a great player. He's raw, like Cam Newton, but so what? Design an offense around what he can do. I say draft him, coach him up and if you have to give up a high draft pick then so be it. I think Griffin is a better passer than Newton when he was coming out.

skinsfan69 12-31-2011 09:34 AM

Re: What is RG3 worth to us?
 
[quote=redskin29633;871276]I would give up nothing to get him. Redskins should dump Beck, notwithstanding the $1,000,000 we owe him for 2012. We should re-sign Grossman; also sign Hoyer, Quinn, Henne, or another comparable FA QB.[B] Let Grossman and Hoyer/Quinn/Henne compete for the starting job. [/B]That strategy should result in improved play at the QB position. Then get the best QB we can when our turn comes in the draft and groom him for the future. The goal should be to make the team better, and by making the QB position better that will happen. We could all wait "forever" for the next franchise QB; there are no guarantees that RGIII, or even Luck, would be that special guy. Just get better at QB and continue improving the team is the best strategy.[/quote]

Are you serious? Brady Quinn? He can't even beat out Orton. Henne? Average. You want to see more of Grossman and his 2-3 turnovers a game? Hoyer is unknown. We need a baller.

diehardskin2982 12-31-2011 10:19 AM

Re: What is RG3 worth to us?
 
For this franchise to move forward we need a quality quarterback. Whether its RGIII or Luck the trigger needs to be pulled in the draft.

I think if we have to move up for RGIII the trade should be similar to the Jaguars trade for Blaine Gabbert.

skinsfan57 12-31-2011 12:32 PM

Re: What is RG3 worth to us?
 
it won't matter if RG3 stays at baylor.

EARTHQUAKE2689 12-31-2011 12:38 PM

Re: What is RG3 worth to us?
 
[quote=skinsfan57;871330]it won't matter if RG3 stays at baylor.[/quote]

What kinda unecessary ass obvious statement is this?

Carnage 12-31-2011 01:37 PM

Re: What is RG3 worth to us?
 
[quote=skinsfan69;871302]Are you serious? Brady Quinn? He can't even beat out Orton. Henne? Average. You want to see more of Grossman and his 2-3 turnovers a game? Hoyer is unknown. We need a baller.[/quote]

Brady DID beat out Orton, thats why he is currently a Bronco and Orton is not.

EARTHQUAKE2689 12-31-2011 02:10 PM

Re: What is RG3 worth to us?
 
[quote=Carnage;871335]Brady DID beat out Orton, thats why he is currently a Bronco and Orton is not.[/quote]

You sure that's why Orton isn't in Denver??

SkinItup 12-31-2011 02:31 PM

Re: What is RG3 worth to us?
 
[quote=skinsfan69;871300]Real tough decision but this organization needs a player to get the fans excited again. Right now the excitment level for this team is at an all time low. Fans from opposing teams invade our stadium, a lot of the fans just don't care anymore. As an older fan, to me that's sad. If RG3 has the potential to be a great player. He's raw, like Cam Newton, but so what? Design an offense around what he can do. I say draft him, coach him up and if you have to give up a high draft pick then so be it. I think Griffin is a better passer than Newton when he was coming out.[/quote]


I like where you are coming from. He definitely would help excite the fan base at first.

He just is such a risk to give up too much for him. He can pass the ball well but he doesn't have to read D much and rarely snaps from under the center.

As I said, he might be able to prove to be a better prospect thru the draft process. If he falls to where we pick great but otherwise no reason to give several picks to move up to get him. Better to do like last year and stock up some more early round picks.


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