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RedskinRat 02-16-2012 01:50 PM

Falklands - Malvinas
 
[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]I find this to be a fascinating subject (but I'm exceedingly dull) and would like to hear other opinions on the topic.[/FONT][/COLOR]
[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]Given the proximity to Argentina you'd think this would be an Argentine governed island, however the British populated it during their (our) colonial shenanigans and it's remained so ever since.[/FONT][/COLOR]
[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]Now the islanders are vociferous in their claim to UK allegiance and I don't see how this would be resolved for them should they be forced to take on Argentine nationality.[/FONT][/COLOR]
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[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]Why is the demonstrably anti-colonial U.S. Administration siding with the Argies?[/FONT][/COLOR]
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[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]Anyone here find this interesting and have anything to add?[/FONT][/COLOR]
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[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]Bloody offseason.....[/FONT][/COLOR]


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Alvin Walton 02-16-2012 02:09 PM

Re: Falklands - Malvinas
 
The USA is siding with Argentina?
Do you have any links stating that?
I find it quite odd since we helped the Brits quite a bit during the last conflict.

Ruhskins 02-16-2012 02:17 PM

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As far as I know, Argentinians have never lived in the Falkland Islands. The only reason there was a war during the 1980s, was because the ruling military government in Argentina wanted to distract the country from the economic catastrophe that they were going through. I feel that this is a ridiculous claim by Argentina and they should really move on from it.

Ruhskins 02-16-2012 02:23 PM

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A good article on the POV from people living in the Falkland Islands.

[url=http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/world_now/2012/02/britain-argentina-spar-falklands.html]What a Falklander thinks about the Falkland Islands dispute - latimes.com[/url]

I don't know why anyone calls this a case of colonialism. There are and have never been a native population in the Falklands. As the article points out, if the islands were transferred to Argentine, it would be Argentina that would colonize the island.

RedskinRat 02-16-2012 02:48 PM

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[quote=Alvin Walton;886113]The USA is siding with Argentina?
Do you have any links stating that?
I find it quite odd since we helped the Brits quite a bit during the last conflict.[/quote]

Depends on what you think 'quite a bit' is.


[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif][SIZE=2][COLOR=#111111][I][URL="http://eightiesclub.tripod.com/id319.htm"]The U.S. government [/URL]disappointed the British by initially attempting to remain neutral. Though aware of Argentina's poor human rights record, there were some in the Reagan administration, most prominently UN Ambassador Jeanne Kirkpatrick, who viewed the anticommunist Argentine government as a potential ally in the struggle to resist the spread of Marxism in Latin America. London did not fail to note that Kirkpatrick was guest of honor at a dinner held by Argentine's ambassador to Washington on the very day that 2,500 Argentine troops stormed Port Stanley on East Falkland Island. While the European Common Market's ten nations banned Argentine imports in a show of support for Britain, the tepid U.S. response threatened the stability of the NATO alliance.[/I][/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT]
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[FONT=Arial][COLOR=#111111]No link, sorry, just what I've heard from unnamed reliable sources. Once it becomes common knowledge and I get a press release I'll bung it up here.[/COLOR][/FONT]

firstdown 02-16-2012 02:57 PM

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Thats falked up.

RedskinRat 02-16-2012 03:43 PM

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[quote=firstdown;886132]Thats falked up.[/quote]

Well played, sir!

Alvin Walton 02-16-2012 04:27 PM

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I'd say we did a fair amount the first time around.

[COLOR="DarkOrange"]Caspar Weinberger ****** He provided the United Kingdom with all the equipment she required during the war. Ranging from submarine detectors to the latest missiles. All this was done very discreetly.***********[/COLOR]

[url=http://britainandamerica.typepad.com/britain_and_america/2007/04/americas_role_d.html]Britain and America: America’s role during the Falklands[/url]

Same thing is mentioned in the wiki for it.

I'm pretty sure I remember hearing we were doing some "coincidental" aerial recon for them too.

RedskinRat 02-16-2012 04:48 PM

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And I'd call it 'useful live-fire practice' with no strings, but I'm a cynic.

firstdown 02-16-2012 05:31 PM

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[quote=RedskinRat;886128]Depends on what you think 'quite a bit' is.


[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif][SIZE=2][COLOR=#111111][I][URL="http://eightiesclub.tripod.com/id319.htm"]The U.S. government [/URL]disappointed the British by initially attempting to remain neutral. Though aware of Argentina's poor human rights record, there were some in the Reagan administration, most prominently UN Ambassador Jeanne Kirkpatrick, who viewed the anticommunist Argentine government as a potential ally in the struggle to resist the spread of Marxism in Latin America. London did not fail to note that Kirkpatrick was guest of honor at a dinner held by Argentine's ambassador to Washington on the very day that 2,500 Argentine troops stormed Port Stanley on East Falkland Island. While the European Common Market's ten nations banned Argentine imports in a show of support for Britain, the tepid U.S. response threatened the stability of the NATO alliance.[/I][/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT]

[FONT=Arial][COLOR=#111111]No link, sorry, just what I've heard from unnamed reliable sources. Once it becomes common knowledge and I get a press release I'll bung it up here.[/COLOR][/FONT][/quote]

That clip goes back to Reagan. Is this that falking old?

RedskinRat 02-16-2012 05:36 PM

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[quote=firstdown;886245]That clip goes back to Reagan. Is this that falking old?[/quote]

Yes, sir, it is.

HailGreen28 06-03-2012 04:49 PM

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[quote=firstdown;886132]Thats falked up.[/quote]I'm not allowed to post links yet, but search for "COMEDIAN STEVE RIZZO ON BROOKLYN PEOPLE" on Youtube. The video is :v=ZMt7OWLR72Y

A History class in Brooklyn:

"Yo, Professor! What falkland islands you talkin about? There's falkland islands all over the place! There's the Hawaiian falkand islands.. Carribean falkland islands... Gilligan's falkland island...."

:cheeky-sm

HailGreen28 06-03-2012 04:55 PM

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[quote=Alvin Walton;886113]The USA is siding with Argentina?
Do you have any links stating that?
I find it quite odd since we helped the Brits quite a bit during the last conflict.[/quote]Obama's said we're neutral on that issue. (darnit not allowed to post link yet)

The Brits aren't happy about that. But I'd be surprised if we didn't help the British at least as much now as we did last time. If Argentina invades or blockades the Falklands, say tomorrow.


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