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NC_Skins 03-12-2012 03:21 PM

NFL taking away Redskins cap space
 
[QUOTE]Adam Schefter ‏ @AdamSchefter

NFL is taking away millions of dolllar of salary-cap space from Cowboys and Redskins for how they front-loaded deals during uncapped year.[/QUOTE]



[QUOTE]Adam Schefter ‏ @AdamSchefter

Cowboys lose $10 million in cap space, Redskins lose $36 million in space. Can split it over 2012 and 2013 any way they want. More at ESPN.[/QUOTE]


What the hell?

CultBrennan59 03-12-2012 03:22 PM

Re: NFL taking away Redskins cap space
 
What???? It was legal what we did..So now how much money do we have to spend?

MTK 03-12-2012 03:24 PM

Re: NFL taking away Redskins cap space
 
They had to have seen this coming.

Monkeydad 03-12-2012 03:24 PM

Re: NFL taking away Redskins cap space
 
[quote=NC_Skins;896102]What the hell?[/quote]

Yeah...THIS!

MTK 03-12-2012 03:25 PM

Re: NFL taking away Redskins cap space
 
[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/03/12/uncapped-year-could-be-coming-back-to-haunt-some-teams/]Uncapped year could be coming back to haunt some teams | ProFootballTalk[/url]

Ruhskins 03-12-2012 03:26 PM

Re: NFL taking away Redskins cap space
 
If PFT is correct about us having $31 mil of cap space and they take away half of the $36 mil, that leaves us with $13 mil of space.

The Cowgirls were $4.7 mil under the cap...so they better make some room just to absorb that $5 mil. Yikes.

NC_Skins 03-12-2012 03:27 PM

Re: NFL taking away Redskins cap space
 
[quote=Mattyk;896105]They had to have seen this coming.[/quote]

Not sure how. The NFL has to approve of the contracts right? So not sure how they could punish them for something they approved?

Jontrem 03-12-2012 03:27 PM

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I cant imagine that they are taking 36 million from our cap space. We might have violated the spirit of the rule, but not the rule. If this is true this is going to hurt us pretty badly.

Player_HTTR 03-12-2012 03:28 PM

Re: NFL taking away Redskins cap space
 
[quote=Ruhskins;896110]If PFT is correct about us having $31 mil of cap space and they take away half of the $36 mil, that leaves us with $13 mil of space.

The Cowgirls were $4.7 mil under the cap...so they better make some room just to absorb that $5 mil. Yikes.[/quote]

As crappy as it is it is over the next two years.

Ruhskins 03-12-2012 03:28 PM

Re: NFL taking away Redskins cap space
 
We will still have roughly $13 mil in cap space....but now I am sure players will need to be cut. Unless the team feels they can appeal this.

MTK 03-12-2012 03:28 PM

Re: NFL taking away Redskins cap space
 
[quote=NC_Skins;896111]Not sure how. The NFL has to approve of the contracts right? So not sure how they could punish them for something they approved?[/quote]

[quote]But while most teams opted not to break the bank in a season without a banker, the NFL instructed teams not to use the uncapped years as a way to dump money in order to ensure that cap numbers in years with a salary cap would be lower.[/quote]

[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/03/12/uncapped-year-could-be-coming-back-to-haunt-some-teams/]Uncapped year could be coming back to haunt some teams | ProFootballTalk[/url]

Alvin Walton 03-12-2012 03:29 PM

Re: NFL taking away Redskins cap space
 
WTF?
Who blew this?
Allen?

MTK 03-12-2012 03:29 PM

Re: NFL taking away Redskins cap space
 
[quote=Ruhskins;896116]We will still have roughly $13 mil in cap space....but now I am sure players will need to be cut. Unless the team feels they can appeal this.[/quote]

They can spread some of that to next year too

NC_Skins 03-12-2012 03:31 PM

Re: NFL taking away Redskins cap space
 
Hate to break the bad news to Fletcher, but he isn't getting that 8-9mil/year contract now. Also probably can say goodbye to D-hall and his figure.



Now, those cheap draft picks are coming back to bite us in the ass.

NYCskinfan82 03-12-2012 03:32 PM

Re: NFL taking away Redskins cap space
 
If we can I'm sure we will appeal.

Monkeydad 03-12-2012 03:32 PM

Re: NFL taking away Redskins cap space
 
This will screw the Cowboys worse than us if it stands. They were already right on the salary cap, we had a ton of room to spare, but maybe not now.

Hopefully we can still get a WR and spread some of the damage to next season.


Are we and Dallas really the only offenders? Tough to believe, if we really violated anything.

Chico23231 03-12-2012 03:33 PM

Re: NFL taking away Redskins cap space
 
I understand the NFL thinking and still think smart thing to do, but is there any appeal process?

Player_HTTR 03-12-2012 03:36 PM

Re: NFL taking away Redskins cap space
 
Atogwe first casualty since he counts as $0 dead cap and was owed. 3.4 mil. Could belong in another thread as well but...

Ruhskins 03-12-2012 03:36 PM

Re: NFL taking away Redskins cap space
 
[quote=Mattyk;896119]They can spread some of that to next year too[/quote]

The 13 mil cap room comes with us absorbing half of the 36 mil this year.

skinsfaninok 03-12-2012 03:37 PM

Well there goes VJax

redskins5044 03-12-2012 03:37 PM

Re: NFL taking away Redskins cap space
 
this sucks, but they had to see this coming. it might also be a blessing, now we are going to have to spend wisely and not break the bank on the big names.

skinsfan69 03-12-2012 03:38 PM

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So how are they going to improve the team the next couple of years? ....with no cap space or high draft picks?? They better be dead on with the mid rounders. Sorry but this is piss poor management. How did they not know this was going to happen??

NC_Skins 03-12-2012 03:39 PM

Re: NFL taking away Redskins cap space
 
Without a doubt D-hall and OJ are gone. Hall will account for 6.2 mil and OJ for 3.4 mil. LATERZ!!

BigHairedAristocrat 03-12-2012 03:40 PM

Re: NFL taking away Redskins cap space
 
one issue i have with this that i havent seen mentioned yet is the short notice. why wait almost 2 years from the alleged "wrongdoing" and spring something on teams 24 hours away from free agency?

mooby 03-12-2012 03:40 PM

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That's bs. If the NFL approved the contracts during the uncapped year, how can they turn around and do this?

All the same though I'm sure this FO knew what it was doing when it was doing it. If this stands they'll just have to adjust.

Ruhskins 03-12-2012 03:40 PM

Re: NFL taking away Redskins cap space
 
[quote=skinsfan69;896134]So how are they going to improve the team the next couple of years? ....with no cap space or high draft picks?? They better be dead on with the mid rounders. Sorry but this is piss poor management. How did they not know this was going to happen??[/quote]

I think this is piss poor management by the NFL. They could have at least warned the teams in advance. A lot of people were praising the Cowboys and Redskins for using the uncapped year. Although, as bad as this looks, the Cowboys are in worst shape...they have to make cuts to absorb even half of this money.

BigHairedAristocrat 03-12-2012 03:40 PM

Re: NFL taking away Redskins cap space
 
[quote=NC_Skins;896136]Without a doubt D-hall and OJ are gone. Hall will account for 6.2 mil and OJ for 3.4 mil. LATERZ!![/quote]

how much in dead cap will hall count?

NYCskinfan82 03-12-2012 03:41 PM

Re: NFL taking away Redskins cap space
 
[quote=redskins5044;896132]this sucks, but they had to see this coming. it might also be a blessing, now we are going to have to spend wisely and not break the bank on the big names.[/quote]

Yeah we will show the league trying to hand cuff us.

Swarley 03-12-2012 03:41 PM

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[quote=Monkeydad;896124]
Are we and Dallas really the only offenders? Tough to believe, if we really violated anything.[/quote]

Word is that the Saints and Raiders are also violators but their punishment is that they wont get any of the cap space from us and the Cowboys.

skinster 03-12-2012 03:41 PM

Re: NFL taking away Redskins cap space
 
Wow, the NFL could not have gotten us at a worse time. 1 day before free agency. I know the league office is judge, jurry, and executioner; but in a case where we broke no rules yet are severely punnished Is there a higher power we can appeal to? Like a court?

Swarley 03-12-2012 03:42 PM

Re: NFL taking away Redskins cap space
 
[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;896138]one issue i have with this that i havent seen mentioned yet is the short notice. why wait almost 2 years from the alleged "wrongdoing" and spring something on teams 24 hours away from free agency?[/quote]

because they're assholes?

Lotus 03-12-2012 03:42 PM

Re: NFL taking away Redskins cap space
 
[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;896138]one issue i have with this that i havent seen mentioned yet is the short notice. why wait almost 2 years from the alleged "wrongdoing" and spring something on teams 24 hours away from free agency?[/quote]

Yeah, I agree. The timing could hardly be worse and could have been avoided.

skinsfaninok 03-12-2012 03:43 PM

U guys keep saying bye to hall and OJA but who are we gonna replace them with?? Remember LL is gone too.

MTK 03-12-2012 03:44 PM

Re: NFL taking away Redskins cap space
 
[quote=Ruhskins;896130]The 13 mil cap room comes with us absorbing half of the 36 mil this year.[/quote]

ah ok

I'm sure with some moves we can free up a good deal more

Alvin Walton 03-12-2012 03:45 PM

Re: NFL taking away Redskins cap space
 
Ok, everybody whip out your contracts and take a bite of this shit sandwich we all have to share.

Chico23231 03-12-2012 03:45 PM

Re: NFL taking away Redskins cap space
 
[quote=skinsfaninok;896131]Well there goes VJax[/quote]

There goes Brandon Carr to the cowboys

Player_HTTR 03-12-2012 03:46 PM

Re: NFL taking away Redskins cap space
 
Wow nm again. Got this in the wrong thread completely. Darn you interents!

NYCskinfan82 03-12-2012 03:46 PM

Re: NFL taking away Redskins cap space
 
We will probably take it to court and get a reduced amount.

mlmpetert 03-12-2012 03:48 PM

Re: NFL taking away Redskins cap space
 
[quote=skinster;896145]Wow, the NFL could not have gotten us at a worse time. 1 day before free agency. I know the league office is judge, jurry, and executioner; but in a case where we broke no rules yet are severely punnished Is there a higher power we can appeal to? Like a court?[/quote]

Even if we can appeal i think players and agents would be very worry of signing deals with us until the outcome is finalized, as they may become future cap causalities. Just a lot of uncertanity.

I do feel like this has saved us from ourselves to some extent. No VJax in my eyes is a good thing.

CultBrennan59 03-12-2012 03:49 PM

Re: NFL taking away Redskins cap space
 
So whats worse, all this money goes away, the nfl approves this than disapproves it, or the fact we have josh wilson returning to start in our secondary next year..


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