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DynamiteRave 03-21-2012 07:41 PM

Trayvon Martin Case
By now everyone should have heard about it. Figured I'd put it in the Debating the Enemy thread in case there are dissenting viewpoints about the case and how it is/should be handled.

[url=http://news.yahoo.com/controversial-florida-law-heart-trayvon-martin-case-162500773.html]Trayvon Martin Case: Does Florida Law Protect Shooter? - Yahoo! News[/url]

RedskinRat 03-21-2012 10:06 PM

Re: Trayvon Martin Case
Over zealous curtain-twitcher meets mouthy teenager.

Drop the race angle.

DynamiteRave 03-21-2012 10:37 PM

Re: Trayvon Martin Case
[quote=RedskinRat;902361]Over zealous curtain-twitcher meets mouthy teenager.

Drop the race angle.[/quote]

I feel like that too... Somewhat. It's obvious that the shooter was a nut to begin with. But I think random black kid in the neighborhood had to of played at least a small role, but I'm not sure of the racial make up of Sanford. But I feel like if it was any seedy looking kid of any race, this still may have still been the final outcome.

That Guy 03-22-2012 07:13 AM

Re: Trayvon Martin Case
I think it's a bad law.

mlmdub130 03-22-2012 09:46 AM

Re: Trayvon Martin Case
Terrible law, crazy this guy has not been arrested as of yet. The dispatcher he was on the phone with told him not to confront the kid. He confronted him and scuffled with him and killed him. He needs to be in jail and hopefully will be shortly. If he ends up not getting any jail time I will lose the last thread of faith I have in our court systems.

mooby 03-22-2012 09:49 AM

Re: Trayvon Martin Case
[quote=That Guy;902444]I think it's a bad law.[/quote]

I agree. I think it's like the Floridians say, it's shoot first ask questions later. I think the neighborhood watch guy deserves to be punished for this, and I don't want to start a racial conversation or anything but it sounds like this guy has a real problem with stereotyping minorities. He deserves whatever punishment he gets, I really hope the FBI/DOJ come down hard on him since the local authorities apparently won't.

RedskinRat 03-22-2012 11:49 AM

Re: Trayvon Martin Case
[i]"The major problem with stand your ground is that it exists in tandem with state laws that allow so many loaded guns to be carried around in public," says Daniel Vice, senior attorney at the Brady Center to Prevent Gun Violence in Washington. [/i]

And yet the streets are NOT running with blood and Florida hasn't turned into the Wild West.

There's no way this guy should have shot the kid, Neighborhood Watch should be just that, 'WATCH' then report not try to be an enforcer.

Anyone remember a similar case with the old dude shooting two burglars after the dispatcher said don't do anything?

NC_Skins 03-22-2012 01:24 PM

Re: Trayvon Martin Case
This is a no brainer. The guy was told not to pursue and he did, and ended up killing a person (17 year old kid) with no weapon. There is nothing that Zimmerman can claim that would justify his using lethal force. No knife, no gun, no bat, no nothing. Also, the fact he pursued and instigated the fight/scuffle is all the more reason to arrest, detain and charge Zimmerman with 2nd degree murder or Voluntary Manslaughter.

Inexcusable to say the least.

los panda 03-22-2012 02:13 PM

Re: Trayvon Martin Case
[quote=RedskinRat;902361]Over zealous curtain-twitcher meets mouthy teenager.

Drop the race angle.[/quote]after listening to zimmerman's 911 call, i feel that martin's race played a role.

los panda 03-22-2012 03:07 PM

Re: Trayvon Martin Case
[quote=firstdown;902646]You mean him calling the guy a F&^ing Cone brings race into the picture.LOL I think Zimmerman caused the problem but I don't think the other guy is the innocent little boy thay mak him out to be.[/quote]no, not even that, i'm still not sure i can hear him say that. i meant his tone, the way he describes martin, and other comments. as far as how innocent they make martin out to be, i have no idea, probably innocent enough not to be killed

mlmpetert 03-22-2012 06:40 PM

Re: Trayvon Martin Case
[quote=firstdown;902652]I agree its not 100% clear that's what he said but it goes with the tone he had with 911 and [B]I cannot think of any other word to replace coon[/B]. I'm sure the right person can clean up the tape to hear what he did say.[/quote]

What about Cone?

saden1 03-23-2012 01:45 AM

Re: Trayvon Martin Case
[quote=RedskinRat;902361]Over zealous curtain-twitcher meets mouthy teenager.

Drop the race angle.[/quote]

Race has everything to do with this and if you don't think so you're a fcking moron.

If I'm Trayvon's father I'm playing the lead role in Law Abiding Citizen.

saden1 03-23-2012 01:51 AM

Re: Trayvon Martin Case
This kid did nothing wrong and apparently you assholes think it's OK to shoot kids because they look suspicious or wear a hoddie and stand up to grown men stalking them.

Yo, close this thread before these morons say more stupid shit that makes no sense.

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