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Luxorreb 02-27-2005 04:19 AM

Another Glorious Miracle???
 
If for some horrible reason Smoot chooses 4 more million and plays elsewhere is there any chance we'll see the return of Darrell Green???
I know it sounds ludicrous, but that's what you guys told me when I suggested Gibbs as the coach several years ago. I know some of the newbie skins fans are calling for mutiny, but they have become as fickle as warm sushi. Gibbs and Williams will make winners in DC with whoever that gotta play. Brings me back to Geris White #45 Safety for the Skins in 82; contract holdout, never saw him again. Gibbs went on to the SB the next season (lost), but no player is as valuable as the team is. Don't say its impossible that Green would come back for another season, even though it might be... Call me crazy but Skins PR needs something real positive right now and if it's not resigning Smoot than it will be hiring Darrell outta retirement. Clarrett's 40 proved that Green can still compete if he wants. And Skins PR needs something right now...

saden1 02-27-2005 04:31 AM

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[QUOTE=Luxorreb]..is there any chance we'll see the return of Darrell Green???[/QUOTE]


It's late at night on the east coast isn't it? Go to sleep man cause it seems like your suffering from mental fatigue.

Schneed10 02-27-2005 08:06 AM

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Seriously, this is just retarded. Green was beaten out by a rookie Smoot for the 2nd CB job, what makes you think he'd be any good now???

That Guy 02-27-2005 09:45 AM

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cause some undrafted guy runs a 4.8, the redskins surely need a 45 year old that couldn't keep up with nearly any #1 WRs...

Paintrain 02-27-2005 09:49 AM

Re: Another Glorious Miracle???
 
Posts like this are why I try to avoid the Warpath.net in the offseason.. See you at the draft and then when camp starts..

Mattyk 02-27-2005 10:16 AM

Re: Another Glorious Miracle???
 
With how crazy things have been so far I wouldn't rule out anything, but Green returning seems very unlikely.

Daseal 02-27-2005 11:47 AM

Re: Another Glorious Miracle???
 
Green's too old and too slow. I don't think he'd be a good coach since a lot of his talent came from speed and instincts -- two things you can't teach. The same reason why Michael Jordan would be a horrible coach.

No one's calling for mutiny - some of us "young skins fans" who obviously are ready to jump ship any day, because god knows we're not used to losing, who think that a lot of the offensive woes fall directly on Joe Gibbs. Doesn't make us wrong -- but we don't give him a free pass like everyone else. He has a total of three years to improve the team to the playoffs before I call for a new coach.

Mattyk 02-27-2005 11:57 AM

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I'm still wondering who's giving him a free pass. Gibbs himself has repeatedly said the offensive problems start with him, and I think even the biggest Gibbs fanboy will admit the same.

There's a difference between a "free pass", and giving a Hall of Fame coach the benefit of the doubt after his first season back in the league after an 11 year layoff.

Daseal 02-27-2005 12:53 PM

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Matty - remember how no one wanted to blame Gibbs for playcalling? They said it was all on the players, because they didn't play hard enough! Benefit of the doubt only goes so far. He's had his chance to re-adjust to the game, I want to see how he handles next year. I haven't seen any of the great adaptations that he made back in his hayday. Gibbs didn't make one game-winning adjustment at half time all year. Besides going ultra-conservative and losing games.

SmootSmack 02-27-2005 01:06 PM

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I wouldn't say no one wanted to blame it on playcalling

[url]http://www.thewarpath.net/showthread.php?t=4127&highlight=playcalling+execution[/url]

Mattyk 02-27-2005 01:10 PM

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I never said it was [u]all[/u] on the players and not on Gibbs, and I don't think anybody said that. I think most agreed both were to blame. Playcalling and execution were both an issue.

jdlea 02-27-2005 01:19 PM

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I'm pretty much on board with Daseal most of the time. I love Gibbs and it's hard for me not to pull punches on him, but I think he did a pretty poor job last year. Not switching QBs earlier killed the entire season. I don't care what you all think of Ramsey. The O started to click at the end of the season and that happened after Brunell got the hell out.

Gmanc711 02-27-2005 01:20 PM

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[QUOTE=jdlea]I'm pretty much on board with Daseal most of the time. I love Gibbs and it's hard for me not to pull punches on him, but I think he did a pretty poor job last year. Not switching QBs earlier killed the entire season. I don't care what you all think of Ramsey. The O started to click at the end of the season and that happened after Brunell got the hell out.[/QUOTE]

I'm in the same boat, being one of the "young guys", but I still think no matter who the coach is, that I'll give it another year before I start to heavily critisize. Alot of times you have to establish a stytem and everything, and its hard to win your first year. I'll see where we are after the next season.

jdlea 02-27-2005 01:26 PM

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Yeah, I pretty much agree and I think Joe will turn it around. The only problem with criticizing him after next season is that we're going to high turnover in the offseason again. If we could have kept the team together I think they could have threatened the Eagles for the East crown, now I'm not so sure. You lose Coles, Gardner, possibly Smoot, Pierce and maybe even Samuels (who I actually like) that's no good for any team. I think they'll struggle again next year and every year they don't look up the term continuity.

Mattyk 02-27-2005 01:42 PM

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Everybody has turnover and I don't think we should use that as an excuse for next season.

No matter who we lose, I'm sure we'll find enough talent to be able to fill the holes well enough.

If we struggle again it will likely be due to not enough effective changes to the offensive schemes and playcalling.

Wow I can't believe I'm saying this, I must be turning to the darkside! Imagine a Gibbs supporter saying something critical! I don't think this has ever been done before! LOL ;)


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