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Sheriff Gonna Getcha 03-07-2005 02:11 PM

MMQ: King Criticizes 'Skins' Offseason Moves
 
From Peter King's MMQ:

[I]Didn't like: Washington, even with a smart guy like Joe Gibbs running the show, still seems like a team lurching from one cap mess to the next. Other than Peyton Manning, no NFL player will make as much cash in 2004. Two years ago, Laveranues Coles was the cat's meow. Now he's just another $9.3 million cap mess to clean up. I noticed the Redskins seemed to be congratulating themselves on having Santana Moss and David Patten starting at receiver in 2005. Why? Moss was a perennial disappointment with the Jets; how will 'Skins fans react the first time he runs out of bounds away from contact instead of trying to make four more yards? Patten was the fourth receiver on a Patriots' team with no receiving star. Lord help Patrick Ramsey. [/I]

Is he right? I think he makes some good points and am sorry to say that I think he is correct. Fortunately, we have the draft to address the WR corps.

skinsguy 03-07-2005 02:15 PM

Re: MMQ: King Criticizes 'Skins' Offseason Moves
 
I won't say he's right until I watch those receivers play in '05. From fans of both teams, they seemed to have an overall very positive outlook on these receivers. Like I said before, I don't mind Moss running out of bounce to avoid contact (Lord knows I have seen Rice over his career do the same thing), as long as he makes the first down before he runs out. Sometimes being too greedy gets ya nowhere!

Redskins_P 03-07-2005 02:18 PM

Re: MMQ: King Criticizes 'Skins' Offseason Moves
 
Regardless of what the Skins do, Peter King will always criticize them. We're talking about the guy who think Art Monk doesn't deserve to be in the HOF.

I could careless about what he thinks. Fat bastard.

FRPLG 03-07-2005 02:19 PM

Re: MMQ: King Criticizes 'Skins' Offseason Moves
 
I don't see the Skins congratulating themsleves on anything. Nor does it appear that Patten will necessarily be starter. There is something to be said for having depth which apparently escapes that turd sandwhich King.

cpayne5 03-07-2005 02:20 PM

Re: MMQ: King Criticizes 'Skins' Offseason Moves
 
Hmm, sounds like Peter King has something against Washington receivers. He's the one that is behind the whole 'keep Monk out of the Hall' bandwagon.

That being said, I think that Patten, Moss, Jacobs, & Thrash can be successful if we can get them the ball.

SmootSmack 03-07-2005 02:24 PM

Re: MMQ: King Criticizes 'Skins' Offseason Moves
 
Patten was second on the Pats in receptions, led the team in YPC, and led the team in TD receptions...how does that make him the fourth receiver? Maybe on paper on the depth chart he was, but production wise he certainly wasn't

JWsleep 03-07-2005 02:24 PM

Re: MMQ: King Criticizes 'Skins' Offseason Moves
 
Coles wanted out; they moved him and got something in return. Not an optimal situation, obviously--in the best case, Coles WANTS to be here--but given Coles wanted out and Gibbs wants dedicated skins, it's the best we could do. The cap hit hurts right now, but it hits all at once, so we're done with it (or so I believe).

As for Moss, yeah, I think Coles--a happy and healthy Coles, that is--is better. But Moss isn't chopped liver and Coles wasn't healthy or happy. Patten is cheap and tough, and he's by all accounts a hard working guy. We didn't overpay for a questionable talent like Burress, and our good friend Peter King thinks we blew it? You know damn well that if we'd spent the big bucks, he'd be writng about Snyder and Deion, etc, etc. F*** him and that fat POS Pastabelly.

jdlea 03-07-2005 02:25 PM

Re: MMQ: King Criticizes 'Skins' Offseason Moves
 
Man, I hate Peter King. It's like a religion. I've devoted my life to hating Peter King.

Redskins_P 03-07-2005 02:26 PM

Re: MMQ: King Criticizes 'Skins' Offseason Moves
 
Offiss, lets not forget about another WR that tends to "run away from contact". Uhh Marvin Harrison anyone?

SkinsRock 03-07-2005 02:28 PM

Re: MMQ: King Criticizes 'Skins' Offseason Moves
 
Like anybody expected King to praise the Skins??? Yeah right...
We'll see what happens on the field, then make judgement. Maybe Gibbs is using the Patriots as a model, with no true #1 receiver. Not a bad team to imitate...

Hey, at least we aren't "winning" the offseason for a change!

JoeRedskin 03-07-2005 02:30 PM

Re: MMQ: King Criticizes 'Skins' Offseason Moves
 
No matter what off-season moves we make - whether we let someone go, bring someone in, low-ball, over-pay, or do nothing - all of it will be questioned and dumped on by the talking heads UNTIL we win games. Few complimented us on the signing of Washington or Griffin or, after the season, stated what good pick-ups they were.

As Curmudgeon has pointed out, Snyder & Co. have screwed up more than a few times (effectively bidding against themselves for Samuels comes to mind). Unless and until the Skins put more games in the win column on a regular basis, expect us to be the talking heads whipping boy. And while I disagree with King, if he is shown to be wrong, he has, in the past, been man enough to admit it.

Let's not get started on Dr. Z....

SmootSmack 03-07-2005 02:39 PM

Re: MMQ: King Criticizes 'Skins' Offseason Moves
 
[QUOTE=JoeRedskin]And while I disagree with King, if he is shown to be wrong, he has, in the past, been man enough to admit it.

Let's not get started on Dr. Z....[/QUOTE]

True, I think most of us recall the firestorm that King's comments about Sean Taylor being unhappy that he was on the Redskins caused here at the Warpath last summer...only to have him retract his statement the following week

terps and skins 03-07-2005 02:42 PM

Re: MMQ: King Criticizes 'Skins' Offseason Moves
 
i dont know what happend with Dr.Z, but i wont even ask....lol

Mattyk 03-07-2005 02:45 PM

Re: MMQ: King Criticizes 'Skins' Offseason Moves
 
I'd be interested in seeing what his opinion is on teams like the Raiders and Titans, two teams who are biting the bullet big-time cap-wise this offseason.

Are the Skins the only team that takes cap hits? Are the Skins the only team that restructures contracts?

I'm not saying his opinion isn't valid, he's just choosing to spin things in a negative way, which isn't much of a surprise I guess.

Same old ho-hum let's bash the Skins no matter what they do.


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