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BrudLee 03-08-2005 03:17 PM

To those who want Brunell to restructure:
 
In another thread, several posters wondered why Brunell hasn't restructured his deal to lower his cap number. There's a very good reason.

If he was to restructure without taking a paycut, we would be basically turning a portion of his 2005 earnings into signing bonus. While that would lower his cost for this year, it would also increase the cap hit when he is finally cut - and rest assured, he will be cut. Brunell signed a seven-year deal with an $8.6 million bonus. His base salary this year is only $1.5 million, which means that only about 700k could be converted into bonus - but it means that (hypothetically) the cap hit for cutting him next year goes from $5.75 million to $6.4 million, which we will then scream bloody murder about.

Now, if you are talking about a [B]pay cut[/B], then I'm all for it. Now get Brunell to agree.

Daseal 03-08-2005 03:45 PM

Re: To those who want Brunell to restructure:
 
Yes - paycut I think people want. No sense in pushing off the money we owe him - just means longer to cut him!

steveo395 03-08-2005 03:48 PM

Re: To those who want Brunell to restructure:
 
i hate brunell

RedskinRat 03-08-2005 03:48 PM

Re: To those who want Brunell to restructure:
 
I'd be happier with job cut, at his expense. We don't need him, draft a low round prospect and let the new guy ride the pine for a few years.

FRPLG 03-08-2005 03:50 PM

Re: To those who want Brunell to restructure:
 
they can rework his deal pretty easy.

current deal
$2,005.00 $2,006.00 $2,007.00 $2,008.00 $2,009.00
sal $4,000.00 $5,200.00 $6,400.00 $7,600.00 $8,800.00
sb $1,433.33 $1,433.33 $1,433.33 $1,433.33 $1,433.33
ob $500.00

cap hit $5,933.33 $6,633.33 $7,833.33 $9,033.33 $10,233.33
release fee $7,666.67 $5,733.33 $4,300.00 $2,866.67 $1,433.33

new deal
sal $540.00 $5,200.00 $6,400.00 $7,600.00 $8,800.00
newb $692.00 $692.00 $692.00 $692.00 $692.00
sb $1,433.33 $1,433.33 $1,433.33 $1,433.33 $1,433.33
ob $500.00 $0.00 $0.00 $0.00 $0.00

cap hit $3,165.33 $7,325.33 $8,525.33 $9,725.33 $10,925.33
release fee $11,126.67 $8,501.33 $6,376.00 $4,250.67 $2,125.33

saves almost 2.8 this year...except i think the deadline is passed for making such a deal.

FRPLG 03-08-2005 03:52 PM

Re: To those who want Brunell to restructure:
 
of course if we cut him post june 1 he'd cost us 1.433 mil this year and 5.733 next year. thats not too bad.

SkinsRock 03-08-2005 03:53 PM

Re: To those who want Brunell to restructure:
 
If they need a little breathing room to sign draft picks or other players closer to the season, sure, push a little bit till next year.
Of course the best scenario would be for him to take a pay cut, but I seriously doubt he would do it.

FRPLG 03-08-2005 03:59 PM

Re: To those who want Brunell to restructure:
 
he's not going to do that. if he is that good of a person i would feel bad taking money from him honestly.

PSUskinsfan11 03-08-2005 03:59 PM

Re: To those who want Brunell to restructure:
 
Signing Brunell was the worst FA move ever. He even cost us a draft pick!!!

celts32 03-08-2005 04:05 PM

Re: To those who want Brunell to restructure:
 
Restructuring Brunel would be stupid. It only makes sense to restructure people who you see on the team long term. That would just make a bad cap deal worse.

firstdown 03-08-2005 04:07 PM

Re: To those who want Brunell to restructure:
 
[QUOTE=steveo395]i hate brunell[/QUOTE]Its our front office we should hate. Can't blame a guy for taking money offered to him and we would have thought he was crazy if he did.

CrazyCanuck 03-08-2005 04:34 PM

Re: To those who want Brunell to restructure:
 
[QUOTE=FRPLG]they can rework his deal pretty easy.

current deal
$2,005.00 $2,006.00 $2,007.00 $2,008.00 $2,009.00
sal $4,000.00 $5,200.00 $6,400.00 $7,600.00 $8,800.00
sb $1,433.33 $1,433.33 $1,433.33 $1,433.33 $1,433.33
ob $500.00

cap hit $5,933.33 $6,633.33 $7,833.33 $9,033.33 $10,233.33
release fee $7,666.67 $5,733.33 $4,300.00 $2,866.67 $1,433.33

new deal
sal $540.00 $5,200.00 $6,400.00 $7,600.00 $8,800.00
newb $692.00 $692.00 $692.00 $692.00 $692.00
sb $1,433.33 $1,433.33 $1,433.33 $1,433.33 $1,433.33
ob $500.00 $0.00 $0.00 $0.00 $0.00

cap hit $3,165.33 $7,325.33 $8,525.33 $9,725.33 $10,925.33
release fee $11,126.67 $8,501.33 $6,376.00 $4,250.67 $2,125.33

saves almost 2.8 this year...except i think the deadline is passed for making such a deal.[/QUOTE]

Seems you skipped over 2005 in your numbers. Brunell's 2005 cap hit is only $3.433M.

FRPLG 03-08-2005 04:59 PM

Re: To those who want Brunell to restructure:
 
yeah disregard those numbers i had snafu with my excel. i suck.

FRPLG 03-08-2005 05:03 PM

Re: To those who want Brunell to restructure:
 
2005 2006 2007 2008 2009 2010
sal $1,500 $4,000 $5,200 $6,400 $7,600 $8,800
sb $1,433.33 $1,433.33 $1,433.33 $1,433.33 $1,433.33
ob $500.00

cap hit $3,433.33 $5,433.33 $6,633.33 $7,833.33 $9,033.33 $8,800.00
release fee $7,666.67 $5,733.33 $4,300.00 $2,866.67 $1,433.33 $0.00

nsal $540.00 $4,000.00 $5,200.00 $6,400.00 $7,600.00 $8,800.00
nb $192.00 $192.00 $192.00 $192.00 $192.00 $192.00
sb $1,433.33 $1,433.33 $1,433.33 $1,433.33 $1,433.33 $0.00
ob $500.00 $0.00 $0.00 $0.00 $0.00 $0.00

cap hit $2,665.33 $5,625.33 $6,825.33 $8,025.33 $9,225.33 $8,992.00
release fee $8,626.67 $6,693.33 $5,068.00 $3,442.67 $1,817.33 $192.00


these are better numbers and show that restructuring Brunell now does little for us

John Hasbrouck 03-08-2005 05:21 PM

Re: To those who want Brunell to restructure:
 
Brunell considers himself a starter and is not about to accept a pay cut. This is a situation we will have to live with. Be great if we could trade him.


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