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SmootSmack 04-15-2013 09:52 PM

Around the NFL-Draft News & Rumors
 
new thread time

CultBrennan59 04-16-2013 12:08 AM

Re: Around the NFL-Draft News & Rumors
 
Wonder who it is who did this..

[url=http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nfl--combine-organizer--players--trashed-hotel-room-included-partially-eaten-food-left-on-bed-215753040.html]Y! SPORTS[/url]

CultBrennan59 04-16-2013 03:59 AM

Re: Around the NFL-Draft News & Rumors
 
Well we're almost a week away (finally) from the draft. Heres my mock draft.
1. KC [B]Luke Joeckel[/B]-Makes the most sense
2. Jax [B]Tavon Austin[/B]- Shocker? Yeah, Jax supposedly has it narrowed down to two players. My thinking is that whether Gabbert is or isn't the answer (he isn't) they can get a big play WR for him or whomever they get next year. The pass rushers in this draft are deep. Plus next year they'll be more than likely picking in the top 5 again, where they'll have a chance to get a great QB (Teddy Bridgewater, David Fales) or a great pass rusher (Jadevon Clowney) plus they have a very high 2nd round pick in this draft should they go after a Mike Glennon or Matt Barkley.
3. Oakland [B]Shariff Floyd[/B]- they need a pass rusher, and a DT, he's both.
4. Philly [B]Dion Jordan[/B]- Chip Kelly will probably get someone he is familiar with and they're changing to a 3-4 which is where I think Dion should play. I really contemplated Eric Fisher here.
5. Detroit [B]Eric Fisher[/B]- They lost Backus and Riley Reiff is more of a RT. Protecting stafford is most important.
6. Cleveland [B]Dee Milliner[/B]- him with Haden is a great tandem that'll be hard for the rest of the AFCN to throw on.
7. Arizona [B]Lane Johnson[/B]- They're OL sucked all year. Makes the most sense to get the best OLineman available.
8. Buffalo [B]Ziggy Ansah[/B]- Again, they need a lot.
9. New York [B]Jarvis Jones[/B]- His spine is good enough for Rex
10. Tennessee [B]Johnathan Cooper[/B]- they need a guard that can go against JJ 2 times a year, I like Warmack more than Cooper, but they like Cooper supposedly.
11. San Diego [B]Chance Warmack[/B]-they need OL help
12. Miami [B]Sheldon Richardson[/B]- I was between him and Lotulelei, Sheldon doesn't have the heart red flag and is more battle tested in the SEC.
13. [B]TRADE[/B] Jets [B]Geno Smith[/B]- Jets trade Revis to the Bucs and get their QB.
14. Carolina [B]Star Lotulelei[/B]- They need a good DT here he is.
15. New Orleans[B] Brakevious Mingo[/B]- They're changing to a 3-4 heres an OLB from their backyard. Plus Rob Ryan likes CBs and gets what he wants (heard that on NFLN tonight).
16. St. Louis [B]Kenny Vaccaro[/B]- they cut Mikell, so heres their new FS.
17. Pittsburgh [B]Cordarrelle Patterson[/B]- they need a lot, BPA of need is a WR who is physical and can make plays.
18. Dallas [B]Johnathan Cyprien[/B]- They need a safety, he can play both positions. Jerry supposedly loves him; another surprise.
19. New York Giants [B]Bjorn Werner[/B]- they know that Osi is gone and Tuck is going down hill. They want someone opposite JPP.
20. Chicago [B]Arthur Brown[/B]- they need an MLB to replace Urlacher. I was between Te'o, brown and Ogletree. Browns the least controversial of the 3.
21. Cincinnati [B]Alec Ogletree[/B]- athletic MLB to replace Maualuga or can play OLB should Burfict move there.
22. St. Louis [B]DeAndre Hopkins[/B]- They need a WR, he's a big play WR
23. Minnesota [B]Manti Te'o[/B]- they need a MLB. Te'o fits well in that locker room and division.
24. Indy [B]Jesse Williams[/B]- he can play DE and NT, I think they choose him over Datone Jones a DE
25. Minnesota [B]Xavier Rhodes[/B]- they need a CB to replace Winfield
26. Green Bay [B]Datone Jones[/B]- a pass rushing DE to create pressure opposite Matthews.
27. Houston [B]Keenan Allen[/B]- its between him and Minter; offense is getting old and one demensional.
28. Denver [B]Slyvester Williams[/B]- they need a MLB, DT, DE, CB, S. Heres the BPA of need.
29. New England [B]Desmond Trufant[/B]- they to need a DT, DE, CB and S. Trufant his nfl bloodlines, so maybe Belichick finally hits on this one.
30. Atlanta [B]Tyler Eifert[/B]- Heres Tony Gonzalezs replacement
31. San Francisco [B]Zach Ertz[/B]- Jim Harbaugh supposedly loves Ertz and they lost Delanie Walker. I was torn between him and John Jenkins. I think they pick the other (jenkins in this case) with the Chiefs 2nd rounder they acquired.
32. Baltimore [B]Kevin Minter[/B]- amazing how all these great players of need falls to Baltimore. Lose Ray Lewis and Dannell Ellerbe; get McClain and Minter. (Could easily see a trade occuring here though for a QB needy team that wants to pay guaranteed money and years to a QB)

Yes I only have 1 QB going in the first and yes I don't have a RB going in the first. If I were to have a RB going anywhere, it would be Lacy to the Rams at 22.

also heres a good article of undervalued prospects
[url=http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/blog/pete-prisco/22077746/the-2013-nfl-draft-better-than-team]The 2013 draft's 'Better-than' Team - CBSSports.com[/url]

budw38 04-16-2013 07:47 AM

Re: Around the NFL-Draft News & Rumors
 
Nice work Cult . I would hate to see Fisher fall to the Lions ( Oakland should take him ).

skinsfaninok 04-16-2013 07:51 AM

Good mock but rob Ryan isn't in Cleveland, he's in N.O

Chico23231 04-16-2013 10:25 AM

Re: Around the NFL-Draft News & Rumors
 
No way Geno Smith makes it out of the top 10.

skinsfaninok 04-16-2013 10:32 AM

[QUOTE=Chico23231;1003480]No way Geno Smith makes it out of the top 10.[/QUOTE]

Really? I don't think he's that good.

donofriose 04-16-2013 12:35 PM

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[quote=Chico23231;1003480]No way Geno Smith makes it out of the top 10.[/quote]

Well I hope the Eagles take him because I believe at best he will be just an average quarterback, not good enough to win you big playoff games, but not bad enough to get benched. See Matt Schaub for a prime example.

CultBrennan59 04-16-2013 12:50 PM

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1003460]Good mock but rob Ryan isn't in Cleveland, he's in N.O[/quote]

Whoops, wasn't fully thinking there. Its been changed.


As for the Geno isn't getting out of the top 10 statement; This QB class is awful. I think the main consensus in the NFL is that this is an awful QB class. People have said either the above statement; that there won't be any QB in the first; that Geno will go late to a team that trades back into the first; we could have 2-3 first round QBs. I'm sticking with one, and that he goes just out of the top ten. I figure if you're the jets, you get rid of Revis, get a pass rusher to make up for the extra coverage a guy like Revis brings you when they didn't have a pass rush, use the other pick on a QB because Geno may actually be slightly better than Sanchez and you know Rex will try to get a QB that can run the option like RG3, since it brought success like last years QBs.

Chico23231 04-16-2013 01:06 PM

Re: Around the NFL-Draft News & Rumors
 
I agree its a poor class, but people love reaching for QBs. Im thinking 3 go first round.

Mattyk 04-16-2013 01:13 PM

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[quote=Chico23231;1003500]I agree its a poor class, but people love reaching for QBs. Im thinking 3 go first round.[/quote]

I agree, the desperate need for QBs will outweigh what appears to be a weak class. If guys like Ponder and Gabbert went top 15 there's no reason why we shouldn't see a couple of first rounders in this draft too.

CultBrennan59 04-16-2013 01:32 PM

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[quote=Mattyk;1003502]I agree, the desperate need for QBs will outweigh what appears to be a weak class. If guys like Ponder and Gabbert went top 15 there's no reason why we shouldn't see a couple of first rounders in this draft too.[/quote]

True, but then people loved Ponder coming off the senior bowl and mike mayock who is highly regarded in draft circles, said that Blaine Gabbert was better than cam newton. That class on paper looks better than this class. Draft day will decide who's right about these QBs.

donofriose 04-16-2013 01:42 PM

Re: Around the NFL-Draft News & Rumors
 
[quote=Mattyk;1003502]I agree, the desperate need for QBs will outweigh what appears to be a weak class. If guys like Ponder and Gabbert went top 15 there's no reason why we shouldn't see a couple of first rounders in this draft too.[/quote]

Don't forget Mark Sanchez going in the top 5. There will probably be two quarterbacks taken in the first round, one being taken in the top 10.

NC_Skins 04-16-2013 05:03 PM

Re: Around the NFL-Draft News & Rumors
 
[quote=Mattyk;1003502]I agree, the desperate need for QBs will outweigh what appears to be a weak class. If guys like Ponder and Gabbert went top 15 there's no reason why we shouldn't see a couple of first rounders in this draft too.[/quote]

Even so, you know it's bad when the GM holding the first pick in the draft says they didn't rate a single QB in the draft with a first round grade. You have to believe him since he's holding the biggest trump card at the table. If anything, he'd be selling those QBs up so he could slide down. Not only that, but Jacksonville's GM pretty much said the same thing.

CultBrennan59 04-16-2013 05:28 PM

Re: Around the NFL-Draft News & Rumors
 
[quote=NC_Skins;1003546]Even so, you know it's bad when the GM holding the first pick in the draft says they didn't rate a single QB in the draft with a first round grade. You have to believe him since he's holding the biggest trump card at the table. If anything, he'd be selling those QBs up so he could slide down. Not only that, but Jacksonville's GM pretty much said the same thing.[/quote]

It may be bluffing, but even Bruce Arians was like "Matt Barkley isn't that great"


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