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jrocx69 03-15-2005 02:34 AM

Pete Prisco's mock (cbs's main NFL reporter)
 
wow, he has mike williams going 15th! troy williamson going 7th and derrick johnson going 14th!


Pete Prisco
Prisco likes QB Alex Smith from Utah with the top overall pick. Like Judge, Prisco feels Auburn's Ronnie Brown is a no-brainer with the second overall pick. going to Arizona with the No. 8 overall pick
1 SF Alex Smith, QB
2 MIA Ronnie Brown, RB
3 CLE Aaron Rodgers, QB
4 CHI Braylon Edwards
5 TB Carnell Williams, RB
6 TEN Antrel Rolle, CB
7 MIN Troy Williamson, WR
8 ARI Cedric Benson, RB
9 WAS Adam Jones, CB
10 DET Dan Cody, DE
11 DAL Shawne Merriman, DE
12 SD Roddy White, WR
13 HOU Alex Barron, T
14 CAR Derrick Johnson, LB
15 KC Mike Williams, WR
16 NO Jammal Brown, OT
17 CIN Travis Johnson, DT
18 MIN Erasmus James, DE
19 STL Carlos Rogers, CB
20 DAL Mark Clayton, WR
21 JAC Khalif Barnes, OT
22 BAL Marcus Spears, DE
23 SEA Shaun Cody, DT, USC
24 GB David Baas, G-C
25 DEN Reggie Brown, WR
26 NYJ Fabian Washington, CB
27 ATL Channing Crowder, LB
28 SD Thomas Davis, S
29 IND Mike Patterson, DT
30 PIT Heath Miller, TE
31 PHI Daryl Blackstock, LB
32 NE David Pollack, DE

e16bball 03-15-2005 02:47 AM

Re: Pete Prisco's mock (cbs's main NFL reporter)
 
This is pretty interesting. Normally I would say that someone having Mike Williams going number 15 and getting past TB, Min, Was, Dal, SD, and Car is crazy and doesnt know shit. But his other player placements are pretty accurate. Reggie Brown and Mike Patterson probably won't sniff the first round, but other than that, he is pretty much spot on. I don't know though, I definitely don't buy that Mike Williams is the number [b]four[/b] WR. It's good to see that some people think he isn't a top 5 lock though. It gives me a little optimism in this somewhat downer of an offseason.

skinsfaninok 03-15-2005 03:29 AM

Re: Pete Prisco's mock (cbs's main NFL reporter)
 
I cant see us passing up Mike Williams at #9 there is no way, unless we sign Plaxico Burress. I do like Adam "Pac Man" Jones though.

FRPLG 03-15-2005 09:23 AM

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hmmm...well this is either genius or crap. Every mock I have seen since the combine has Williams going top 10 and mostly before 9. I have not seen one mock EVER saying Williams would go after White. I hope he has some inside info and Williams can go that low. Trade down and pick him there. I like Jones wel enough but he is not going to make a big difference for us this coming year. I like Williams a lot more.

FRPLG 03-15-2005 09:38 AM

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cbs's other nfl reporter has a completely different take...
1 SF Aaron Rodgers, QB
2 MIA Ronnie Brown, RB
3 CLE Braylon Edwards, WR
4 CHI Cedric Benson, RB
5 TB Cadillac Williams, RB
6 TEN Antrel Rolle, CB
7 MIN Derrick Johnson, LB
8 ARI Alex Smith, QB
9 WAS Adam Jones, CB
10 DET Marcus Spears, DE
11 DAL Shawne Merriman, DE
12 SD Mike Williams, WR
13 HOU Alex Barron, T
14 CAR Heath Miller, TE
15 KC Carlos Rogers, CB
16 NO Thomas Davis, S
17 CIN Travis Johnson, DT
18 MIN Troy Williamson, WR
19 STL Jammal Brown, T
20 DAL Marcus Johnson, OT
21 JAC Erasmus James, DE
22 BAL Mark Clayton, WR
23 SEA Dan Cody, DE
24 GB Channing Crowder, LB
25 DEN David Pollack, DE
26 NYJ Anttaj Hawthorne, DT
27 ATL Khalif Barnes, OT
28 SD Matt Roth, DE
29 IND Barrett Ruud, LB
30 PIT Shaun Cody, DT
31 PHI Demarcus Ware, LB/DE
32 NE Kevin Burnett, LB

BrudLee 03-15-2005 10:22 AM

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With all due respect to Prisco, the only way Williams makes it past #12 is if San Diego trades out of the pick. Williams is the prototype receiver for a Schottenheimer team - a big target with great hands. He is also trying to either increase the trade value of Brees and give Rivers the tools needed to succeed, or solidify Brees as a force in his division. Williams will absolutely not get past him, if he makes it there at all.

FRPLG 03-15-2005 10:44 AM

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i tend to agree BL

BrudLee 03-15-2005 10:45 AM

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[QUOTE=FRPLG]i tend to agree BL[/QUOTE]
Of course you do. I'm a friggin' genius.

dirtbag2112 03-15-2005 10:48 AM

Re: Pete Prisco's mock (cbs's main NFL reporter)
 
Damn now I don't know who I'd take if pac man and Williams were still on the board.

FRPLG 03-15-2005 10:52 AM

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Williams is a better football player straight up. That should be the deciding factor. Take the better player. There are knocks against Pacman's instincts and positioning. Apparently he gets turned around some. This is all correctable but I imagine he's gonna get torched as a rookie some. The only knock on WIlliams is speed. Speed is the knock on just about every WR coming out. There are only like 3 legitimate speedsters who will end up being siginificant players in any given year and this year is no different. Year in and year out WRs get knocked for speed and it doesn't end up mattering much. Williams is a beast. Pacman is a nice player but he is not the Williams level. He is over valued simply because he plays CB.

heybigstar 03-15-2005 11:02 AM

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Agreed,

Sometimes, people rely on workout stats two heavily. A big wide receiver with great instincts is worth it. Does anyone know what TO ran in the 40?

BrudLee 03-15-2005 11:08 AM

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Here's how you should gauge Williams:

Write down the top 5 receivers in the league. Take into account anything you want - statistics, impact on their team, leadership - whatever.

How many of the people on your list are known primarily for their speed? I've got Randy Moss, Terrell Owens, Marvin Harrison, Torry Holt, and Muhsin Muhammad. You could have any of a dozen other receivers, but that's my list (in no order). Though they are all fast, their speed isn't the defining characteristic of their play. They run great routes. They provide big secure targets. They don't drop balls. They get in the end zone. They force defenses to adjust to their presence.

The difference between 4.4 and 4.5 seconds isn't nearly as big as the difference between a catch and a bobble. Mike Williams doesn't bobble.

Mattyk 03-15-2005 11:08 AM

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I'd be shocked if Williams lasted that long.

FRPLG 03-15-2005 11:17 AM

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Exactly BL and heybigstar. Williams is a beast by all accounts. I have not heard one person say he is overrated. He dominated in college and barring health issues he should be a force in the NFL. I just hope we don't over think this one and go a different direction. If he is available to us he will certainly be the most talented player availabale. It's not like we don't have a need for a WR like him. He would fit in nicely. I am worried he won't make it to us anyways so then maybe all this talk is worthless.

AndySkinUK 03-15-2005 11:29 AM

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Id be amazed if Williams lasts beyond the top 10.


Every mock i see at the minute has us taking Pac Man Jones


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