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skinsfaninok 09-12-2013 06:18 PM

Redskins "Name Change" Volume 10000000
 
Seriously though, It appears that most of the media will stop using the term "Redskins" when discussing the team. With the protest this weekend at the Green Bay game, do you think Dan will break and actually change the name? And here is a Question if we do change the name will you still be fans of the franchise? Think about it, forever we have known this team as the Washington Redskins , heck I even have the "R" tatted on my arm. So if they do change the name that would mean an obvious logo change as well right? I think that would be hard to do is root for a "new" team basically. Idk am I thinking too much into it?

DynamiteRave 09-12-2013 06:22 PM

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I don't think the name changes unless some sort of legal action is taken to force it to be changed. I think Dan has been in hot water with the fans enough and notices most of the fanbase likes the name the way it is.

I'll always be fans of the franchise, Redskins or not. It's the same team just a different name. The Wizards will always be remembered as the Bullets. Although they did start sucking really bad after the name change...... :Smoker:

SirLK26 09-12-2013 06:28 PM

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While Dan Snyder owns the team, the name isn't changing. And even if the name does change when Snyder's gone, the logo won't have to change. If the name change actually happens, though, I'll continue to root for them; and I'll continue to call them the Redskins, even if I'm the last one on Earth to do so. This is a big load of b*******.

By the way, I thought there was sort of an unspoken rule that once we had football again, no one would approach the topic of name change. Ahhhh, well; if I didn't want to read about I just had to leave the thread unopened.

Lotus 09-12-2013 07:02 PM

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[quote=DynamiteRave;1024942]I don't think the name changes unless some sort of legal action is taken to force it to be changed. I think Dan has been in hot water with the fans enough and notices most of the fanbase likes the name the way it is.

I'll always be fans of the franchise, Redskins or not. It's the same team just a different name. The Wizards will always be remembered as the Bullets. Although they did start sucking really bad after the name change...... :Smoker:[/quote]

I agree. I think that the heat has to be much hotter before Snyder changes the name.

I also will remain a loyal fan regardless of the mascot.

Lotus 09-12-2013 07:03 PM

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[quote=SirLK26;1024943]While Dan Snyder owns the team, the name isn't changing. And even if the name does change when Snyder's gone, the logo won't have to change. If the name change actually happens, though, I'll continue to root for them; and I'll continue to call them the Redskins, even if I'm the last one on Earth to do so. This is a big load of b*******.

[B]By the way, I thought there was sort of an unspoken rule that once we had football again, no one would approach the topic of name change. [/B]Ahhhh, well; if I didn't want to read about I just had to leave the thread unopened.[/quote]

Tell your unspoken rule to the Oneida Nation. They waited for the season to start to launch the most vigorous protest yet against the name. Thus it remains a topic, in-season or not.

Skinzman 09-12-2013 07:09 PM

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[quote=Lotus;1024953]Tell your unspoken rule to the Oneida Nation. They waited for the season to start to launch the most vigorous protest yet against the name. Thus it remains a topic, in-season or not.[/quote]

Oneida Nation realized a few years back that every time someone does a story on them complaining about the name, they get their casino in NY mentioned. Advertising for pennies on the dollar.

I still wish the media would address the Indian Reservations where the Indians themselves have named their High School mascot the Redskins.

GTripp0012 09-12-2013 07:14 PM

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I wouldn't be surprised if the team doesn't start to change a lot of it's branding towards "Washington Football" in the short term, while leaving the name for the time being. A lot of the same imaging and theme, but placing the emphasis back on the team name "Washington" rather than the nickname "Redskins".

The problem with the name change argument is the same as all other highly politicized arguments: one side wants you to believe that hardly anyone at all is offended, and the other wants you to believe that the people who are offended are being offended in a life-changing way. Reality of course lies in the middle, but pretty much no one is there to cover the reality.

Lotus 09-12-2013 07:19 PM

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[quote=Skinzman;1024954]Oneida Nation realized a few years back that every time someone does a story on them complaining about the name, they get their casino in NY mentioned. Advertising for pennies on the dollar.

[B]I still wish the media would address the Indian Reservations where the Indians themselves have named their High School mascot the Redskins.[/B][/quote]

That's interesting. Who did that?

ArtMonkDrillz 09-12-2013 07:26 PM

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[quote=SirLK26;1024943]And even if the name does change when Snyder's gone, [B]the logo won't have to change. [/B][/quote]I can't see them changing the name without changing the logo. It's not like the Braves and Indians don't also have protesters and people calling for them to rebrand, and if we are forced to change they will surely be next.

Skinzman 09-12-2013 07:27 PM

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[quote=Lotus;1024957]That's interesting. Who did that?[/quote]

I know of two of them.

Red Mesa High School which is on a Navajo Indian Reservation in Arizona. And Wellpinit High School which is on a Spokan Indian Reservation in Washington. Both of them chose Redskins as their mascot, and they were both named by the Indians of the Reservation.

Another thing about the name. When are people going to ask for the State of Oklahoma to change its name? It is a Choctaw Indian word that means "People with Red Skin" or some translate it as "Red People".

Giantone 09-12-2013 07:31 PM

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[quote=Skinzman;1024961]I know of two of them.

Red Mesa High School which is on a Navajo Indian Reservation in Arizona. And Wellpinit High School which is on a Spokan Indian Reservation in Washington. Both of them chose Redskins as their mascot, and they were both named by the Indians of the Reservation.

Another thing about the name. When are people going to ask for the State of Oklahoma to change its name? It is a Choctaw Indian word that means "People with Red Skin" or some translate it as "Red People".[/quote]



[url=http://www.rmusd.net/education/school/school.php?sectiondetailid=75]Red Mesa High School - Home[/url]

Lotus 09-12-2013 07:31 PM

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[quote=Skinzman;1024961]I know of two of them.

Red Mesa High School which is on a Navajo Indian Reservation in Arizona. And Wellpinit High School which is on a Spokan Indian Reservation in Washington. Both of them chose Redskins as their mascot, and they were both named by the Indians of the Reservation.

Another thing about the name. When are people going to ask for the State of Oklahoma to change its name? It is a Choctaw Indian word that means "People with Red Skin" or some translate it as "Red People".[/quote]

Good stuff. That is very interesting.

Skinzman 09-12-2013 07:33 PM

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[quote=ArtMonkDrillz;1024960]I can't see them changing the name without changing the logo. It's not like the Braves and Indians don't also have protesters and people calling for them to rebrand, and if we are forced to change they will surely be next.[/quote]

The thing is, the Indians calling for name change are targeting all of them. That goes beyond the Indians and Braves. As well as those two, They want the Chiefs, Seminoles, Blackhawks, Fighting Illini, Warriors, etc. to change.

Amanda Blackhorse was asked fairly recently why they were, as of now, calling for the Redskins to change but not the others. She said that due to others (read others as non-Indians) speaking out against the Redskins, that they want to get that first name down. But that once Redskins falls, that opens the door for them to attack all other sports names that involves something to do with Indians.

They are ultimately going after them all.

SmootSmack 09-12-2013 07:34 PM

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If a name change were to occur, I think it's years away...and would conveniently coincide with a new stadium. I also know it wouldn't make me less of a fan if they did

Giantone 09-12-2013 07:45 PM

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[quote=SmootSmack;1024967]If a name change were to occur, I think it's years away...and would conveniently coincide with a new stadium. I also know it wouldn't make me less of a fan if they did[/quote]


What would you do with the old one SS ?


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