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EARTHQUAKE2689 12-31-2013 05:33 PM

Re: 34th Overall Pick
 
[quote=TheMalcolmConnection;1052445]Also, we keep forgetting about Phillip Thomas at safety. We barely got to see him and he was highly regarded coming out of college.[/quote]


Richard Crawford also missed the entire season and I had a feeling he was going to be one of our starters as well.

EARTHQUAKE2689 12-31-2013 05:35 PM

Re: 34th Overall Pick
 
[quote=TheMalcolmConnection;1052463][B]I'm thinking about the last time we had a REALLY great line. Chris Samuels, John Jansen pre-injuries[/B], and that was kind of it. I know you can't have Pro Bowlers at every position, but I feel like year-to-year, we always have at least ONE goat on both sides of the ball. Wilson on D and Polumbus on O (Chester a close second). Remember the Warrick Holdman days? Maybe the worst linebacker who started for us in the past 10+ years.[/quote]


2005 was the last time I can say that our line was very good.

Samuels, Dockery, Rabach (before he sucked), Thomas (before he broke his leg against Dallas), and Jansen

TheMalcolmConnection 12-31-2013 05:49 PM

Re: 34th Overall Pick
 
[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;1052574]2005 was the last time I can say that our line was very good.

Samuels, Dockery, Rabach (before he sucked), Thomas (before he broke his leg against Dallas), and Jansen[/quote]

Ah! Nice memory. I remembered Rabach came in after we had some of the worst starting center play for years. Who was it? Raymer?

EARTHQUAKE2689 12-31-2013 05:52 PM

Re: 34th Overall Pick
 
[quote=TheMalcolmConnection;1052577]Ah! Nice memory. I remembered Rabach came in after we had some of the worst starting center play for years. Who was it? Raymer?[/quote]


Yeah Cory Raymer, what a joke he was, I kinda hope we try and sign Alex Mack.

Defensewins 12-31-2013 05:52 PM

Re: 34th Overall Pick
 
The draft will be something to look forward to, but I am more looking forward to free agency and the cap space we get back. That is where we will really be able to fill the holes with some quality players if we are careful and lucky.\
Crazycanuck, so how much Cap space will we have to sign an OT, LB, CB, WR?

[url=http://nfltraderumors.co/2014-nfl-free-agents-top-50-list/]NFL Trade Rumors - 2014 NFL Free Agents: Top 50 List NFL Trade Rumors - |[/url]

SirLK26 12-31-2013 06:10 PM

Re: 34th Overall Pick
 
[quote=Defensewins;1052579]The draft will be something to look forward to, but I am more looking forward to free agency and the cap space we get back. That is where we will really be able to fill the holes with some quality players if we are careful and lucky.\
Crazycanuck, so how much Cap space will we have to sign an OT, LB, CB, WR?

[url=http://nfltraderumors.co/2014-nfl-free-agents-top-50-list/]NFL Trade Rumors - 2014 NFL Free Agents: Top 50 List NFL Trade Rumors - |[/url][/quote]

Signing Eric Decker in free agency would solve two problems right away: WR and KR. He won't be demanding big money and he's still fairly young, only 26. If we don't go to the draft to solve those problems, this is a guy we need to sign.

EARTHQUAKE2689 12-31-2013 06:16 PM

Re: 34th Overall Pick
 
[quote=SirLK26;1052583]Signing Eric Decker in free agency would solve two problems right away: WR and KR. He won't be demanding big money and he's still fairly young, only 26. If we don't go to the draft to solve those problems, this is a guy we need to sign.[/quote]


Why would we have Decker return kicks???

Skinsfanatic 12-31-2013 06:19 PM

Re: 34th Overall Pick
 
[quote=Defensewins;1052579]The draft will be something to look forward to, but I am more looking forward to free agency and the cap space we get back. That is where we will really be able to fill the holes with some quality players if we are careful and lucky.\
Crazycanuck, so how much Cap space will we have to sign an OT, LB, CB, WR?

[url=http://nfltraderumors.co/2014-nfl-free-agents-top-50-list/]NFL Trade Rumors - 2014 NFL Free Agents: Top 50 List NFL Trade Rumors - |[/url][/quote]

From that list, I want us to look at:


5. Alterraun Verner TEN CB 25
6. Jairus Byrd BUF S 27
8. Brian Orakpo WAS OLB 28
10. Jared Veldheer OAK OT 27
11. Aqib Talib NE CB 28
16. Eugene Monroe BAL OT 27
18. Brandon Spikes NE ILB 26
22. Alex Mack CLE C 28
23. Captain Munnerlyn CAR CB 26
24. Eric Decker DEB WR 27
26. Sam Shields GB CB 26
28. Hakeem Nicks NYG WR 26
31. Brent Grimes MIA CB 31
35. Vontae Davis IND CB 26
37. Jon Asamoah KC OG 26
46. Austin Howard NYJ OT 27

SirLK26 12-31-2013 06:23 PM

Re: 34th Overall Pick
 
[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;1052586]Why would we have Decker return kicks???[/quote]

Would you rather have Niles Paul, or Josh Morgan? Chris Thompson?

In Decker's rookie year, he returned 22 kickoffs for 556 yards, an average of 25.3. He would be better than anything we have right now.

TheMalcolmConnection 12-31-2013 06:44 PM

Re: 34th Overall Pick
 
I really don't mind Paul returning kicks. He's like Rock Cartwright, never going to break one, but runs north-south.

Damn, really bringing up some old school names today!

WillH 12-31-2013 06:44 PM

Re: 34th Overall Pick
 
[quote=Skinsfanatic;1052588]From that list, I want us to look at:


[B]5. Alterraun Verner TEN CB 25[/B]
6. Jairus Byrd BUF S 27
8. Brian Orakpo WAS OLB 28
10. Jared Veldheer OAK OT 27
11. Aqib Talib NE CB 28
16. Eugene Monroe BAL OT 27
18. Brandon Spikes NE ILB 26
22. Alex Mack CLE C 28
23. Captain Munnerlyn CAR CB 26
24. Eric Decker DEB WR 27
26. Sam Shields GB CB 26
28. Hakeem Nicks NYG WR 26
31. Brent Grimes MIA CB 31
35. Vontae Davis IND CB 26
37. Jon Asamoah KC OG 26
46. Austin Howard NYJ OT 27[/quote]

He says he is DEFINITELY going to test the FA market, and I like this:

According to Pro Football Focus, quarterbacks have a 54.7 passer rating while throwing at Verner. Only Richard Sherman has a better mark.

TheMalcolmConnection 12-31-2013 06:46 PM

Re: 34th Overall Pick
 
[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;1052572]Richard Crawford also missed the entire season and I had a feeling he was going to be one of our starters as well.[/quote]

True. I also forget he was a pretty nasty PR.

TheMalcolmConnection 12-31-2013 06:48 PM

Re: 34th Overall Pick
 
[quote=WillH;1052592]He says he is DEFINITELY going to test the FA market, and I like this:

According to Pro Football Focus, quarterbacks have a 54.7 passer rating while throwing at Verner. Only Richard Sherman has a better mark.[/quote]

Interesting. I had thought about Talib, but since I haven't really heard Verner's name, I assume he's WAY less of a head case.

WillH 12-31-2013 06:54 PM

Re: 34th Overall Pick
 
[quote=TheMalcolmConnection;1052594]Interesting. I had thought about Talib, but since I haven't really heard Verner's name, I assume he's WAY less of a head case.[/quote]

My thoughts exactly, also he is younger.

Sam Shields has similar number to Verner, and wants to get paid after the GB snubbed him last year with a 1 yr RFA contract.

There are certainly a few options out there at corner, and we have some room to play with, and they aren't ancient like Deion was, and I really hate how we haven't had a shutdown corner in years, and. . .

KI Skins Fan 12-31-2013 06:59 PM

Re: 34th Overall Pick
 
[quote=Skinsfanatic;1052446]We need to take the BPA. Or, with the second pick in the second round, make a trade back to pick up picks in the inevitable scramble to the front of round 2.[/quote]

Not the dreaded trade back! How many times have we screwed that up?

FA first. Then assess the remaining positions of need. Then draft the BPA at a position not addressed in FA. But what do I know?


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