The everything Gruden thread
 

I've seen enough. He's not pro HC material and you can't tell me there won't be legit HC candidates available at seasons end. Things that tell me Gruden is a loser:
History. He had elite talent at many positions in Cincy and still ALWAYS lost the big game.
Leadership. He doesn't have any. You look for a well prepared and focused team, and hasn't mustered that in a single game this season.
More on leadership, he's completely failed handling the QB situation. You don't shit on the only QB to lead a team to the playoffs in almost 10 years, especially when the rest of your group is playing like garbage.
Individual player concerns. Trent Williams is a good example. He's fat slow and undisciplined under Gruden. That tells me he's not buying in, he went from a pro bowl LT to subpar in less than a season.
Playcalling and game decisions. Need I say more after today? It's worse than Zorn. Enough said.

Personally I'd like a really tough defense minded coach to come in as HC. It's time for a clean sweep of the coaching staff. I hope Snyder has already started the search.

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The blame lays at Gruden's feet cause he's the HC, but these players are just terrible.

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I don't want him to be one and done. I want to see what he can do when he has legit weapons and depth at most positions.

Although if we could get a proven winner and a coach who KNOWS what type of atmosphere they're entering into once they set foot in Redskins Park and what they're working with, I would not be opposed to ousting him.

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[quote=DynamiteRave;1096989]I don't want him to be one and done. I want to see what he can do when he has legit weapons and depth at most positions.

Although if we could get a proven winner and a coach who KNOWS what type of atmosphere they're entering into once they set foot in Redskins Park and what they're working with, I would not be opposed to ousting him.[/quote]

Can we fire him and hire his brother and argue that is what we meant to do in the first place?

j/k :-)

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The only way I'd be in favor of a change is if Snyder hires a real GM to run the football ops. Otherwise gotta give Gruden a real shot, meaning at least another year.

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[quote=Mattyk;1096993]The only way I'd be in favor of a change is if Snyder hires a real GM to run the football ops. Otherwise gotta give Gruden a real shot, meaning at least another year.[/quote]

But who would be a legitimate GM choice at this point?

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Washington will probably fire him because this organization is that idiotic. This team will take years to fix. There are plenty of coaches that walked into similar situations and sucked their first year... then turned it around.

This isn't San Fran/Detroit/Kansas City or even Cleveland who already had some talent. This team has terrible players that would be back-ups or role players on most teams. I believe Allen/Gruden are in the process of blowing it all up, similar to what Seattle did and these are just the growing pains.

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Breathe in....Breathe out....

I really think Gruden is part of the solution. I'm sure he's still learning the ropes of being the Head Coach.

It's obvious the o-line needs re-vamped and the secondary needs better players.

His failing is probably not being more vocal for o-line upgrades, but can anyone imagine how much his head was spinning during the off-season just trying to watch film, evaluate players he doesn't see every day, etc.?

He deserves at least another year in my opinion before we "blow it all up" AGAIN.

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[quote=Mattyk;1096993]The only way I'd be in favor of a change is if Snyder hires a real GM to run the football ops. Otherwise gotta give Gruden a real shot, meaning at least another year.[/quote]

I agree with this. We desperately need a really GM.

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[quote=Mattyk;1096993]The only way I'd be in favor of a change is if Snyder hires a real GM to run the football ops. Otherwise gotta give Gruden a real shot, meaning at least another year.[/quote]

This. Def got to get a new defensive coordinator. Rg3 is too connected to mcvay, so I think he should most likely go as well

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Fire the coach after one year??? You want to know why the Redskins are a perpetual cluster fuck? It's because Dan Snyder is just like some of you guys. In a way, you both deserve each other.

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[quote=DynamiteRave;1096989]I don't want him to be one and done. I want to see what he can do when he has legit weapons and depth at most positions.

Although if we could get a proven winner and a coach who KNOWS what type of atmosphere they're entering into once they set foot in Redskins Park and what they're working with, I would not be opposed to ousting him.[/quote]

I always like your posts and generally agree with everything you say - But - we had Mike Shanahan, who was a proven winner, and who also knew what was going on in Redskins park. Shanahan said the same things about RG that Gruden is saying now. If Gruden is fired and RG3 survives, by next year, we will have seen that 3 Head Coaches benched RG3, has something like that ever happened before??

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Revis just got beat like a rag doll by Jordy nelsen

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As it is, no one who is qualified should want this job, and now you guys want to fire the 8th coach in 15 years. That does not make any sense.

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Lauvao, Chester and Compton suck, a blocking TE is needed. Replacing this players on O will help. On D, Haslett, Meriweather, Clark, Riley, Jenkins, Golston, Bowen, Biggers, Porter have to go. Need some athletic LB's like Robinson and DL help.