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SmootSmack 03-29-2004 01:58 AM

BJ and the Bears
 
Washington Times is saying Bryan Johnson to the Bears, possibly for a 6th rounder

[url]http://washtimes.com/sports/20040329-010733-8669r.htm[/url]

BleedBurgundy 03-29-2004 06:45 AM

I'm just glad to see we're getting something for him, even if it's just a 6th rounder...

Mattyk 03-29-2004 08:16 AM

Yeah at least it's something.

Gmanc711 03-29-2004 08:36 AM

I agree, who knows what we can get in the 6th round. It could be a August Casuality, but who knows, it could be a star. At least we have the chance of getting a good player if the deal goes through.

JWsleep 03-29-2004 11:55 AM

What an interesting way to play the RFA game. I just didn't think of it. If he's signed, we lose him for nothing; if we trade him for anything (asuming we don't have to give money), it's better. The risk: no one bites, and we have to pay him big or cut him to save cash. I get the feeling Danny boy just loves this part of the game.

Or maybe they just like BJ... Too bad he couldn't participate in the minicamp so we could evaluate him.

beg8878 03-29-2004 02:22 PM

its official now....

[url]http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/columns/story?columnist=pasquarelli_len&id=1771061[/url]

JWsleep 03-29-2004 02:25 PM

So instead of nothing, we get a 6th rounder. That's pretty nifty, if you ask me. Must be pissing the saints off.

Mattyk 03-29-2004 02:29 PM

Some nifty wheelin' and dealin' by Snyder!

Rather than letting him slip away to the Saints for nothing, we pick up a 6th rounder, and the best part is there's no cap hit and no dead money.

cpayne5 03-29-2004 02:31 PM

Kudos, FO. A little Gibbs smarts involved with this deal, anyone?

beg8878 03-29-2004 02:32 PM

I guess Synder handled this Restricted FA thing alot better than the Jets GM was able to last year....lol

JWsleep 03-29-2004 02:42 PM

This sure feels like Danny and Vinny. They're the kings of RFA! Still, it's Gibbs lifting the level of everyone: even Vinny and Danny are feeling that Gibbs intensity!

Now if we can just get some more LB/DL help....Oh, and an H-back. If junior picks the right agent, he may well be wearing the burgundy and gold. (And NOT #81. Sorry, Kid. That's been taken, for all time. I don't care WHERE you went to college.)

SKINSnCANES 03-29-2004 03:11 PM

We still dont get him for nothing. From what I understood he is due 1.1 million or somethign like that today as a roster bonus, which is why he counted for 2.2 millino in the first year. So unless they traded him last night he still counts a million against our camp this year.

JWsleep 03-29-2004 03:39 PM

No, he counts nothing, as far as I can tell. Here's a quote from Mark Maske at the Post:

Redskins Avoid Cap Hit, Get Pick in Johnson Deal

The Redskins continue to use the restricted free agent market better than any other team, with today's trade of fullback Bryan Johnson to Chicago for a sixth-round pick in next month's draft.

The Redskins had until Friday to match an offer sheet that Johnson, a restricted free agent, signed with New Orleans. The Saints tried to dissuade the Redskins from matching the offer by making it salary cap-unfriendly. The deal contained an $800,000 roster bonus due Tuesday that, unlike a signing bonus, could not be prorated over the life of the four-year contract for salary-cap accounting purposes. It also included a temporary no-trade clause that expired Sunday. Because Johnson entered the NFL as an undrafted free agent, the Redskins would have received no draft-choice compensation for allowing him to go to New Orleans.

So the Redskins matched the offer sheet but then, between the period when the no-trade clause expired and the roster bonus became due, traded Johnson to the Bears to get something in return. Because the Saints' offer sheet contained no signing bonus, there was no salary cap hit for the Redskins to absorb in trading him. And they were left with three selections instead of two in the draft. . . . :biggthump

BrudLee 03-29-2004 04:16 PM

[QUOTE=JWsleep]No, he counts nothing, as far as I can tell. Here's a quote from Mark Maske at the Post:

Redskins Avoid Cap Hit, Get Pick in Johnson Deal

The Redskins continue to use the restricted free agent market better than any other team, with today's trade of fullback Bryan Johnson to Chicago for a sixth-round pick in next month's draft.

The Redskins had until Friday to match an offer sheet that Johnson, a restricted free agent, signed with New Orleans. The Saints tried to dissuade the Redskins from matching the offer by making it salary cap-unfriendly. The deal contained an $800,000 roster bonus due Tuesday that, unlike a signing bonus, could not be prorated over the life of the four-year contract for salary-cap accounting purposes. It also included a temporary no-trade clause that expired Sunday. Because Johnson entered the NFL as an undrafted free agent, the Redskins would have received no draft-choice compensation for allowing him to go to New Orleans.

So the Redskins matched the offer sheet but then, between the period when the no-trade clause expired and the roster bonus became due, traded Johnson to the Bears to get something in return. Because the Saints' offer sheet contained no signing bonus, there was no salary cap hit for the Redskins to absorb in trading him. And they were left with three selections instead of two in the draft. . . . :biggthump[/QUOTE]
This whole deal sounds like something I'd work up in Madden 2004 ;)


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