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SonnySamFrank 04-26-2005 08:12 AM

Skins Media Bias:Caught Red handed
Check out this article by Rich Tandler.


rickmmrr 04-26-2005 08:52 AM

Re: Skins Media Bias:Caught Red handed
Nice article. He really nailed him.

TheMalcolmConnection 04-26-2005 08:54 AM

Re: Skins Media Bias:Caught Red handed
King is such a jackass.

JoeRedskin 04-26-2005 09:05 AM

Re: Skins Media Bias:Caught Red handed
I also read the King comments both before and after the draft and felt much the same way as you SSF. BUT - Just to play devil's advocate:

King is not bashing the Skins for taking a player of Campbell's ability - He is bashing the apparent conflict created by choosing Campbell when the Skin's have:

1) A good young QB in Ramsey - who must now, yet again, fend off/deal with a new challenger for his job. In his 4 years here, Ramsey has consistently had to deal w/ 2nd guessing towards his ability to be an NFL QB and the leader of this team (remember - Spurrier wanted to trade him b4 he even got to play). Given that Gibbs' actions seem to contradict Gibbs' words concerning his confidence in Ramsey, and if the whole world is saying that Ramsey is crazy to believe Gibbs doesn't want to replace him, this move may just push him over the edge and ruin him as QB. Remember, most of the NFL scouts think Ramsey could be a solid QB - good intangibles, strong arm, smart - that, in the right system, could be a very good QB

2) Given the existence and potential of the Ramsey - why in the hell trade away next year's first if your not going to address this year's needs? Who is your goto receiver? Patten, Moss? - I don't think so. How about an end who can pressure the QB? Players who will likely start, and possibly star, in this league were available at 25. This front office just can't get it right.

So, essentially, while thinking Campbell would be a great QB, King is bashing the FO for creating unneccesary controversy at the team's most important position and for failing to address the areas perceived as real needs by the media and fans.

TheMalcolmConnection 04-26-2005 09:28 AM

Re: Skins Media Bias:Caught Red handed
I wouldn't say it's controversy right now. Gibbs made it clear that Ramsey is the guy.

But in drafting Campbell he is also getting an insurance policy for the future. That way, Ramsey knows he has the job but if he stinks it up, he's gone.

TheMalcolmConnection 04-26-2005 10:17 AM

Re: Skins Media Bias:Caught Red handed
If Williams works out for the Lions, they will have one of the best WR duos in the league.

jrocx69 04-26-2005 07:06 PM

Great article for you haters
Views of Campbell plunged when taken by Skins Skins Media Bias: Caught Red Handed
By Rich Tandler Site Editor
Date: Apr 25, 2005

Tandler's Redskins Blog Ver. 4.25.05

One who praised Jason Campbell prior to draft day is now laughing at the Skins for taking him

I'm not one to whine much about media bias against the Redskins. Yes, there is a lot of negative reporting about the Redskins. It's hard to find a Skins draft grade out there above what I got in high school physics (and there's a reason I'm not a rocket scientist). My line of reasoning has been based on the fact that until they make the playoffs again or at least post a couple of consecutive winning seasons, the critics will be out there.

Sometimes, however, the critics get caught in a biased moment. When something they said in a context that doesn't involve the Redskins suddenly does pertains to Danny Snyder's team, the positive spin becomes inoperative and turns negative, or vice versa depending on the situation.

Read the following statement and tell me who made it:
Campbell looked really good -- so good that you find yourself wondering: How can a scout watch this kid and not label his arm, athleticism and field presence all first-round gifts?
Was it Joe Gibbs or Vinny Cerrato? Auburn coach Tommy Tubberville? Some homer Redskins blogger out there?

No, it was said in this article by Peter King. Yes, the very same Peter King who annually draws the ire of Redskins fans when he leads to charge to block Art Monk's entry into the Pro Football Hall of Fame. The very same Sports Illustrated writer who hasn't had anything good to say about the Redskins since the Norv Turner era.

To say that he is ga-ga over Campbell in the article, which was published two weeks before the draft on April 11, would be an understatement. You have to click over to the third page before you find the nut of the story:
Next I watched Campbell. My first question was: Where's this guy been hiding? The simple answer: Behind Brown and a very big Cadillac. Campbell is 6-4 3/4 and 230 pounds. His pass-drop is quick and textbook perfect. He sets up well in the pocket, bouncing athletically until he finds his receivers. He never flinches against a pass rush, moving deftly this way or that to avoid traffic. He throws on the run better than Rodgers or Campbell. On one throw against Kentucky last fall, he rolled out from his 46 to his right, then flicked a sideline throw 19 yards downfield for an in-stride completion. That's the kind of throw he'll be asked to make 100 times a year in the NFL.
He concludes in regards to what quarterback the 49ers should draft among Alex Smith, Aaron Rogers and Campbell:
I hope they take another look at Campbell. I sure would if I were Mike Nolan.
But, hey, if you're Joe Gibbs, you're a fool to make the trade for the 25th pick in the draft in order to take a quarterback who is in the writer's view an equal to the #1 overall pick, according to King.

On Monday on PTI, King literally laughed at the Redskins for drafting Campbell, saying that it was obvious that the right hand didn't know what the left hand was doing. He made absolutely no mention of the fact that he thought that Campbell was Smith's equal. If he did, then that would have blown the whole media template established that the Redskins are the gang that can't shoot straight.

If you're trading a couple of mid-rounders for a shot to get an guy who's as good as the best quarterback in the draft, that's a pretty shrewd deal. That's something that, to the Peter Kings of the world, the Redskins can't make. So, just like in the Nixon White House, previous statements become inoperative. Campbell's talents are first-round gifts when another team might be looking at him. When the Redskins take him in the first, they're bumblers.

We've always suspected such things, but now we have the goods on at least one of them.

RedskinRat 04-26-2005 07:07 PM

Re: Great article for you haters
Excellent post.

SmootSmack 04-26-2005 07:12 PM

Re: Great article for you haters
Merged this with another thread that was in the Draft Central forum

GoSkins! 04-26-2005 07:23 PM

Re: Great article for you haters
Whatever it takes to try to make the Skins look like idiots.

Nice to see media bash media for once.

drew54 04-26-2005 10:11 PM

Re: Great article for you haters
[QUOTE=TAFKAS]Merged this with another thread that was in the Draft Central forum[/QUOTE]

Thank You Captin Thread Merger. :biggthump

I guess everyone is kindof antsy and not checking the current discussions before they start a new thread.

RedskinsJunkie 04-26-2005 10:19 PM

Re: Skins Media Bias:Caught Red handed
[QUOTE=TheMalcolmConnection]If Williams works out for the Lions, they will have one of the best WR duos in the league.[/QUOTE]
Duos? Could be Trios if Rogers can get and stay healthy...

Gmanc711 04-26-2005 10:30 PM

Re: Skins Media Bias:Caught Red handed
[QUOTE=BossHog]So you feel the same way about DET drafting Mike Williams? :oink:[/QUOTE]

I feel the exact same way about DET drafting Williams. I think it was a rediculous pick for them; unless they trade one of their three headed WR's. Obviously it would be Rogers, but I thought it was a stupid move for them. THey need more help on the defensive side of the football.

Daseal 04-26-2005 11:01 PM

Re: Great article for you haters
You mean, Peter King, a professional sports writer is saying the SAME THING WE ARE? Campbell is a good/great player, perhaps the best QB this year, but that the Redskins shouldn't have picked him. Let's burn an effigy of him on FedEx field.

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