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JWsleep 04-29-2005 05:11 PM

It's Rosenhaus
 
Rosenhaus is Taylor and Moss's agent. He's obviously telling them to stay away from redskins park. He's doing the same thing with some of his GB packer clients.

This is clearly the new trend. Given the salary cap, players, even those under contract, can squeeze more cash out of tems by refusing to play. This threatens to kill a team's cap--you can't just release a malcontent; you take a big cap hit. Knowing this, agents advise their clients to stay away until they get what they want. TO, Portis, and others all cashed in on this. Ugh.

[URL=http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2049905]Sherman: 'I'm very disappointed'[/URL]

joecrisp 04-29-2005 05:17 PM

Re: It's Rosenhaus
 
I hope the team respond with a new trend of telling these players: "tough noogies, baby, you're under contract." Otherwise, the floodgates have flung wide open for good.

jbcjr14 04-29-2005 05:20 PM

Re: It's Rosenhaus
 
The league must put a stop to this immediately or there is going to be big trouble in river city!

Hog1 04-29-2005 05:26 PM

Re: It's Rosenhaus
 
You are correct as this appears to be the latest manifesto of the "New breed of NFL superstar". Contracts mean nothing. Apparently, that "cancer", Drew is leading the pack. Just when you thought the NFL couldn't get any more tawdry or depraved! It's a Damn shame things are evolving like this. It makes me wonder what the hell could be next? I must say Andy Reid handled is the ONLY way possible "If they're here, ok, if not we move on!! Joe will take the same stance!

mooby 04-29-2005 05:31 PM

Re: It's Rosenhaus
 
i defenitly hope so. drew rosenhaus is behind all this. he tells every unhappy client of his to holdout if they don't like their contract. you know what, there are other guys who would jump at the chance to play for a team. i hope the skins will just get some replacement players instead.

joethiesmanfan 04-29-2005 05:47 PM

Re: It's Rosenhaus
 
Don't hate the player hate the game. Tell them players tough noogies and then when Taylor's contract is up he's gone. They need to get rid of the cap. It gives freedom it brings back free market principles to the situation. You cant have it both ways. people always want it both ways. They have found a loophole in the cap now deal with it.. change the system or it will be exploited .. Cant have it both ways I say if you cant sign a player tough noogies then Danny boy will. lol

skinsguy 04-29-2005 06:08 PM

Re: It's Rosenhaus
 
2007 is an uncapped year from what I have heard, so does this mean that after that year, there is no more salary cap or does this mean that the salary cap will resume in 2008? I agree....this thing has gotten way out of control! The teams, in my opinion, appear to be getting handicapped from the salary cap AND the agents of these players. I guess signing a contract means zip nowadays!

skinsguy 04-29-2005 06:11 PM

Re: It's Rosenhaus
 
[QUOTE=offiss]As if he wouldn't leave anyway for an extra buck!

What's the cap have to do with it? If anything getting rid of the cap could make matters worse, a player doesn't show up when he's under contract and knows the team has cap constraint's, what will they do if there's no constraint's? They will sit out even longer and more often because they know the fund's are unlimited.

I hope Snyder send's everyone who is under contract and deciedes to sit out a nice big plasma TV, let's see how far a genious like Taylor get's with 1 year's salary and a signing bonus, he probably already burned through most of it, I say you meet force with force it's the only thing these guy's understand![/QUOTE]

Good point! It's time for the teams to start taking control of the situation and not the agents. Greed appears to be the name of the game....football is just secondary.

Hijinx 04-29-2005 08:36 PM

Re: It's Rosenhaus
 
Man I would love to see the teams stand up to Rosenhaus and just not sign or draft his players for a while. This weasel and the ones like him(ie the Postons) have way too much control over the game. I think part of the reason is that the teams think the fans won't understand why they lost a star player. Personally I say let some other team over pay for some over-hyped player. The Skins have been doing it for far too long.

saden1 04-29-2005 09:05 PM

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[QUOTE=joecrisp]I hope the team respond with a new trend of telling these players: "tough noogies, baby, you're under contract." Otherwise, the floodgates have flung wide open for good.[/QUOTE]

Sort of like the Eagles? I much as I hate them I have to give props to the Eagles organization for the way they handle player and their contract demands.

jdlea 04-30-2005 09:13 AM

Re: It's Rosenhaus
 
I'm not a big fan of player hold outs, however, I was just listening to a lot of the people he is holding out. The Roster:

T.O.
Santana Moss
Sean Taylor
Edge
Shaun Alexander
Rueben Droughns
Javon Walker
Anquan Boldin

Of them Santana Moss is awaiting a new deal. I could understand that. T.O. doesn't think that making 750k in the third year of his deal is fair...it isn't. Sean Taylor has no leg to stand on, in my book. Edge wants a long term deal or wants to be traded...that's kinda pushing it. Shaun Alexander wants the same. Rueben had one year with the Broncos, the other 4 years of his career he never even broke 100 yards. One year, from out of nowhere doesn't warrant a new deal. He's gonna make 950k this year, if he does it again, then I could understand it. Now, Javon Walker and Anquan Boldin each have a legitimate beef. Boldin has been one of the better wide outs in the league in his first two years and showed a lot of heart last year. He deserves more than 350k this season. Walker is only slated to make 550k next year, 500k this year. He went for 1400 yards last year. He deserves more, too.

Consider the fact that if Javon Walker plays like one of the best WRs in the league the next 2 season and his career is ended and he never renegotiates he'll make slightly more than 1.5 million dollars for his efforts. That's unreal. They should re-do his deal. They should tweak T.O.'s deal, not rip it up and start all over. Boldin deserves a new deal, too.

Nothing is guaranteed to the players in the NFL. It should be able to go both ways. I can see where the players are coming from on this one.

monk81 04-30-2005 10:32 AM

Re: It's Rosenhaus
 
This agent is bad news for the NFL................

skinsguy 04-30-2005 01:07 PM

Re: It's Rosenhaus
 
[QUOTE=jdlea]I'm not a big fan of player hold outs, however, I was just listening to a lot of the people he is holding out. The Roster:

T.O.
Santana Moss
Sean Taylor
[B]Edge[/B]
Shaun Alexander
Rueben Droughns
Javon Walker
Anquan Boldin
[/QUOTE]

Wow....now the WWE wrestlers are starting to hold out for bigger contracts...or either the guitarist of U2! What's the world coming to? j/k :smashfrea

Hijinx 04-30-2005 02:44 PM

Re: It's Rosenhaus
 
The thing about T.O. is that he wasn't really a free agent. He had to deal with Philly becuase Baltimore had the rights to him. His agent at that time was a screw up. However he got a BIG signing bonus and it is the contract he signed.
If I was Philly I would say fine let him hold out. Let him sit for a bit losing money and not getting the attention he craves. After that if he doesn't cave in then shop him for a trade, although any smart team wouldn't want him. He causes problems wherever he goes and badmouths his teammates in the media.


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