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REDSKINS4ever 12-09-2015 08:49 PM

Adam Carriker accuses Redskins of trying to drive Alfred Morris FA price down
 
[url=http://washington.cbslocal.com/2015/10/16/redskins-purposely-driving-price-down-on-alfred-morris/]Ex-Teammate: Redskins Driving Price Down on Alfred Morris « CBS DC[/url]

NoCalHail 12-09-2015 08:52 PM

Re: Adam Carriker accuses Redskins of trying to drive Alfred Morris FA price down
 
Oh yeah, I suppose our awful run blocking has zero to do with limiting a RB who has no speed? STFU Carriker.

REDSKINS4ever 12-09-2015 09:00 PM

Re: Adam Carriker accuses Redskins of trying to drive Alfred Morris FA price down
 
[quote=NoCalHail;1132093]Oh yeah, I suppose our awful run blocking has zero to do with limiting a RB who has no speed? STFU Carriker.[/quote]

I don't know if they are limiting Morris by design or not. It does seem like they are limiting his touches...Morris is in a contract year and he deserves to paid like an elite running back given what he's done overall since his rookie season.

Alvin Walton 12-09-2015 09:24 PM

Re: Adam Carriker accuses Redskins of trying to drive Alfred Morris FA price down
 
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SmootSmack 12-09-2015 09:56 PM

Re: Adam Carriker accuses Redskins of trying to drive Alfred Morris FA price down
 
So the argument is what? Redskins want to get Morris back cheap so they want him to be of no value across the league?

Hog1 12-09-2015 10:18 PM

Re: Adam Carriker accuses Redskins of trying to drive Alfred Morris FA price down
 
I believe it to be more of a...mathematical issue.
1.6<4.5

Ruhskins 12-10-2015 12:31 AM

Re: Adam Carriker accuses Redskins of trying to drive Alfred Morris FA price down
 
While I think this is bogus, the only thing that gives me a slight pause is how the game after Morris had 121 yds, it seems that the team went out of its way to limit his touches in the game against St. Louis.

Either there is someone really good on the team management that saw a possible decline in his production or the whole plan was to phase him out. I don't have a problem if they wanted to phase him out, but I feel like maybe they could have traded him to another team for something.

Regardless, I doubt he'll be back next year. I hope the team lets him walk so he can compete for the starting job on another team.

Honestly I'm not sold on Matt Jones; to me outside of some good screen passes, he has been just slightly better than Morris. I can see his explosiveness...but the fumbles are a concern. But who knows with a better line, then again you could say the same for Morris.

Skinsfanatic 12-10-2015 01:57 AM

Re: Adam Carriker accuses Redskins of trying to drive Alfred Morris FA price down
 
You know what is going to be funny in a not funny way. When RG3 and Morris both end up on the same team and they play together like they did in 2012 (and they do it for the next 10 years).

irish 12-10-2015 08:14 AM

Re: Adam Carriker accuses Redskins of trying to drive Alfred Morris FA price down
 
It seems to me that whenever I see Morris get the ball he looks slow. I think a plodding back who is not really a pass receiving threat works well in this offense. I dont think he will be a Redskin next year.

Redskins247 12-10-2015 08:45 AM

Re: Adam Carriker accuses Redskins of trying to drive Alfred Morris FA price down
 
Well I'll state the obvious and say it will really suck if he leaves and goes to dallass and rips it up. They have a great O-line that's getting wasted right now.

Schneed10 12-10-2015 09:17 AM

Re: Adam Carriker accuses Redskins of trying to drive Alfred Morris FA price down
 
This is completely asinine. Anybody who buys into this doesn't understand football and doesn't watch the team closely. Morris does not have speed. He does hit holes hard, and if he gets through the point of attack without getting hit, then he builds up a nice head of steam and is a bull after contact.

But when the line fails to block in the interior (Long & LeRib) then Morris deals with penetration and gets met at the line before he has a chance to build up that head of steam that he needs.

He did well with Griffin in 2012 because the read option gave him the opportunity to get two yards past the line of scrimmage without contact. He did well in the Rams game this year because Steiger and Lauvao were healthy and blocking the interior while Scherff got to the 2nd level. So again, he didn't get contact until two yards past the line of scrimmage.

Jones is getting the carries because he reaches top speed more quickly and can take better advantage of smaller holes. It's a matter of circumstance. Morris is still a good back if you can keep guys off of him.

It's not about the RB, it's about the blocking. Whether it's Morris or Jones, either way, we're good to go if the blocking paves the way.

Ruhskins 12-10-2015 09:41 AM

Re: Adam Carriker accuses Redskins of trying to drive Alfred Morris FA price down
 
[quote=irish;1132111]It seems to me that whenever I see Morris get the ball he looks slow. I think a plodding back who is not really a pass receiving threat works well in this offense. I dont think he will be a Redskin next year.[/quote]

Morris has never been a speedster; to me it just seems that he takes two or three students and falls.

30gut 12-10-2015 10:12 AM

Re: Adam Carriker accuses Redskins of trying to drive Alfred Morris FA price down
 
I think without a doubt that NFL teams, and in this case the Redskins, phase players out.

I don't think the phasing out of Alfred is the cause of the running games problems. I think the run game as whole stinks. From gameplan, to playcalling to execution and it effects both RBs.

But it was clear (to me at least) from the outset of the season the organization planned to phase Alfred out for Matt Jones. Hence a perennial 1,000 back and 2 x probowler shares carries with a rookie w/ fumblitis. Starts the season off with 25 carries at a 4.8 ypc clip for 121 yards. Yet over the course of the season never again has 25 carries. And oh by the way, w/ 28 career TDs (mostly in the goalline) cedes the goalline carries.

I don't know why its a big deal to admit *shrugs*.... wasn't there a thread on this earlier?

Defensewins 12-10-2015 10:16 AM

Re: Adam Carriker accuses Redskins of trying to drive Alfred Morris FA price down
 
Clearly Carriker has not been watching the games. He looks at the stat sheet, sees a few highlights and make a baseless accusation. The O-line has had injuries all season and cannot open running lanes consistently. That is why we are running less.

Chico23231 12-10-2015 10:19 AM

Re: Adam Carriker accuses Redskins of trying to drive Alfred Morris FA price down
 
This premise is so dumb of driving down the price, clearly the team is phasing him out.

In regards to the running game, Alfmo isn't the reason its failing...more of a small piece of it. Scheme, commitment, blocking, fumbling, and overall production all issues.


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