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MTK 01-22-2017 01:41 PM

Redskins promote Greg Manusky to defensive coordinator
 
The Washington Redskins' search for their next defensive coordinator took more than two weeks. But in the end they didn't have to go far, giving the job to a familiar face in the organization: outside linebackers coach Greg Manusky.

[url=http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/18531259/washington-redskins-promote-greg-manusky-defensive-coordinator-job]Washington Redskins promote Greg Manusky for defensive coordinator job[/url]

DYoungJelly 01-22-2017 01:53 PM

Re: Redskins promote Greg Manusky to defensive coordinator
 
Any articles out there about Manusky's style from SF and Indy? How it contrasts with Barry's?

FlyerSkin 01-22-2017 02:04 PM

Re: Redskins promote Greg Manusky to defensive coordinator
 
Why we hired a guy that was below average in defensive output at his previous stints as DC is beyond me. I assume this probably means sticking to the 3-4, an LB focused defense. I am more than willing to give the guy a chance, but when you had better candidates, why not go for one of them. Wouldn't you want to go with a proven winner, with a proven scheme?

CRedskinsRule 01-22-2017 02:04 PM

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Terrible

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FlyerSkin 01-22-2017 02:07 PM

Re: Redskins promote Greg Manusky to defensive coordinator
 
[quote=CRedskinsRule;1163631]Terrible

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Not necessarily terrible, but just bewildering. Is Dan doing a 180 on us and going on the cheap?

ethat001 01-22-2017 02:08 PM

Re: Redskins promote Greg Manusky to defensive coordinator
 
[quote][url=http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1295186-san-diego-chargers-defense-liberated-from-former-coordinator-greg-manusky]San Diego Chargers' Defense Liberated from Former Coordinator Greg Manusky | Bleacher Report[/url]

Under Manusky, the Chargers could not get off the field on third down. A year after leading the league with opponents only converting 34 percent of their third down attempts, the Chargers put up the worst effort in the last 15 years. They allowed opponents to convert an amazing 49 percent of their attempts.

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[quote][url=http://www.colts.com/news/article-1/Colts-Part-Ways-With-Defensive-Coordinator-Greg-Manusky-Five-Other-Assistant-Coaches/12960131-7179-419d-8f9f-3dbf8d3c23b3]Colts Part Ways With
Defensive Coordinator Greg Manusky, Five Other Assistant Coaches[/url]

In Manusky’s tenure, the Colts run defense ranked consistently near the bottom of the NFL. The Colts were 29th in run defense during that time span.

Other stats of note for the Colts defense under Manusky: 25th in total defense, 20th in points per game and 15th in sacks per passing play.
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First link above from Bangee7 in the other thread. Both links describe in detail how bad his defenses were and why he was fired from his past two gigs.

Horrible move. It explains our worst fears -- we got the equivalent of Joe Barry - just a guy with a horrible track record of bad defenses. As has been said, it's certainly possible the good D candidates said no because of job security (ie. too much risk of Gruden getting fired in 2 years & having only 1-2 years in the role). But it's ludicrous to believe Manusky makes our D competitive. Best case scenario is Scott McC drafts well / gets good FA players, which automatically improve the defensive play despite Manusky / not because of him.

diehardskin2982 01-22-2017 02:10 PM

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This shows 2 things... It was a Gruden driven decision and if it doesn't work Gruden's head is on the chopping block.

CRedskinsRule 01-22-2017 02:12 PM

Re: Redskins promote Greg Manusky to defensive coordinator
 
[QUOTE=diehardskin2982;1163635]This shows 2 things... It was a Gruden driven decision and if it doesn't work Gruden's head is on the chopping block.[/QUOTE]
I guess franchise KC and plan for a full rebuild in 2018.

Seriously deflating move.

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SFREDSKIN 01-22-2017 02:12 PM

Re: Redskins promote Greg Manusky to defensive coordinator
 
[quote=DYoungJelly;1163628]Any articles out there about Manusky's style from SF and Indy? How it contrasts with Barry's?[/quote]

Aggressive, attacking D. I saw 4 years of him here in SF and don't give a shit what any says about him. Did a decent job in Indy despite lack of defensive talent.

[url=http://www.colts.com/team/coaches/Greg-Manusky/6dd78169-300c-4a8f-a414-6e50fdf67126?qwr=fullsite_temporary]Indianapolis Colts: Greg Manusky[/url]

MTK 01-22-2017 02:17 PM

Re: Redskins promote Greg Manusky to defensive coordinator
 
It's ludicrous to think anybody would instantly make this D better with the current roster.

FlyerSkin 01-22-2017 02:18 PM

Re: Redskins promote Greg Manusky to defensive coordinator
 
[quote=diehardskin2982;1163635]This shows 2 things... It was a Gruden driven decision and if it doesn't work Gruden's head is on the chopping block.[/quote]

I think some of the comments on this issue on NFL.com and ESPN might have hit the head on the nail. With the uncertainty of Gruden/Cousins the gig might very well be only for one year, thus none of the big names were really that interested. Job security is the name of the game anywhere. Gruden and Kirk should have been extended for continuity's sake. I think Snyder just trapped the franchise into hiring second hand coaches. Once Gruden is gone it is back to square one. Nobody wants to work here. What we did to Shanny was terrible in hindsight.

Giantone 01-22-2017 02:19 PM

Re: Redskins promote Greg Manusky to defensive coordinator
 
[quote=CRedskinsRule;1163636]I guess franchise KC and plan for a full rebuild in 2018.

Seriously deflating move.

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I was spot on. Being a former Redskin had something to do with it.

FlyerSkin 01-22-2017 02:23 PM

Re: Redskins promote Greg Manusky to defensive coordinator
 
[quote=MTK;1163639]It's ludicrous to think anybody would instantly make this D better with the current roster.[/quote]

Nobody thinks that. The big question is why didn't we get a proven winner. My previous post is what I am all about. My first post on the subject said I am more than willing to give the guy a shot. It will take 2 years minimum to get a top D created. The concern should be why we can't draw top talent or lose that talent. The uncertainty that seems to always hang over the head of our HC might be scaring folks off. By hedging our bets we might have screwed ourselves just as badly or actually worse off than if we pulled the trigger and extended Kirk and Gruden beforehand.

MTK 01-22-2017 02:24 PM

Re: Redskins promote Greg Manusky to defensive coordinator
 
[quote=FlyerSkin;1163641]I think some of the comments on this issue on NFL.com and ESPN might have hit the head on the nail. With the uncertainty of Gruden/Cousins the gig might very well be only for one year, thus none of the big names were really that interested. Job security is the name of the game anywhere. Gruden and Kirk should have been extended for continuity's sake. I think Snyder just trapped the franchise into hiring second hand coaches. Once Gruden is gone it is back to square one. Nobody wants to work here. What we did to Shanny was terrible in hindsight.[/quote]

Nah, I think Bradley was the top target with Manusky being the fallback option all along. I honestly don't think it's about it not being a desirable job. Outside of a few teams in the league there's no such thing as job security beyond 2-3 years.

CRedskinsRule 01-22-2017 02:28 PM

Re: Redskins promote Greg Manusky to defensive coordinator
 
[QUOTE=FlyerSkin;1163641]I think some of the comments on this issue on NFL.com and ESPN might have hit the head on the nail. With the uncertainty of Gruden/Cousins the gig might very well be only for one year, thus none of the big names were really that interested. Job security is the name of the game anywhere. Gruden and Kirk should have been extended for continuity's sake. I think Snyder just trapped the franchise into hiring second hand coaches. Once Gruden is gone it is back to square one. Nobody wants to work here. What we did to Shanny was terrible in hindsight.[/QUOTE]
Its not on Snyder. Its on Gruden for hiring Barry in the first place when good DCs were available

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