Daron Payne
 

Hopefully this comes to fruition:

Ron Rivera on keeping Daron Payne: ‘We know it’s going to be hard but we’re going to do it’.

[url]https://www.yahoo.com/sports/ron-rivera-keeping-daron-payne-122933891.html[/url]

Re: Daron Payne
 

We definitely gotta find a way to extend him.

Re: Daron Payne
 

I wanted him traded for a 1st and keep Settle, this is his best year, glad they kept him. Let’s hope he keeps it up after he gets paid.

Re: Daron Payne
 

[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1330101]Ron Rivera on keeping Daron Payne: ‘We know it’s going to be hard but we’re going to do it’.[/quote]

Translation:

"We're gonna franchise tag him."

Re: Daron Payne
 

[QUOTE=CrazyCanuck;1330113]Translation:

"We're gonna franchise tag him."[/QUOTE]


Yes


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Re: Daron Payne
 

Payne and Allen are freaks on the DL. Honestly I’d rather keep Payne over CY. Payne is reliable and consistent. Young hasn’t played in a year.


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Re: Daron Payne
 

Are we paying him or applying a franchise of over 18 million next year?

I’d have a hard time franchising him at that number even though I love mf’er. I think you got to try to sign him

Re: Daron Payne
 

If it comes to a decision between paying D Payne 18 million or significantly upgrading the offensive line, I hope they let him walk.

Re: Daron Payne
 

DL is a tipping point kind of thing. If you just have 1 good guy, he gets doubled every play and no big deal. 2 good players, they can double both, but that puts the offense in a slightly worse position. 3 good players... they can't double up without allowing a huge advantage to the secondary. 4 good players... good luck.

It's possible he's benefitting from the other players around him a bit (increasing his perceived value), but a lot of winning came off of having a great DL, so I'd rather not mess with it. I'd take Payne over Wentz, and that leaves the team +7mill.

I don't think he's worth 18m a year (so get a team-friendlier deal done), but unless there's a better way to spend that money (like a superstar QB)... I assume the OT will be drafted and every year you see $1-2m OGs playing good ball, we just don't have them right now (so Payne shouldn't obstruct fixing the OL).

Also, still think too many people are jumping off the Chase Young train too early.

Re: Daron Payne
 

[quote=skinsfaninok;1330124]Payne and Allen are freaks on the DL. Honestly I’d rather keep Payne over CY. Payne is reliable and consistent. Young hasn’t played in a year.


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Payne always suits up. He's been the most consistent guy on the team from an injury standpoint.

Re: Daron Payne
 

Can we have him? That guy is a stud with 8.5 sacks and 51 total tackles. We need somebody on our defense like that.

Re: Daron Payne
 

[quote=Packfan10;1331982]Can we have him? That guy is a stud with 8.5 sacks and 51 total tackles. We need somebody on our defense like that.[/quote]

You may not.

Re: Daron Payne
 

[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1331983]You may not.[/quote]

We will trade you Christian Watson for him lol.

Re: Daron Payne
 

[quote=Packfan10;1331984]We will trade you Christian Watson for him lol.[/quote]

Even though our offense mostly stinks, our WRs are our 2nd strongest position group. Don't necessarily need Watson. But Watson has more team control. I'd actually do that trade if we couldn't come to a long term contract with Payne. Watson for 3 more years > Payne for 1 more year, assuming we had to franchise tag him. That would actually be a fairly fair trade, assuming we couldn't extend Payne and you guys could.

Ideally we keep the Bama Bro's together with a long term contract with Payne.

Re: Daron Payne
 

I am a bit back and forth on retaining Payne. The logic that you pay him more than JA and then need to pay MS and CY doesn't fit for me. JA seems to be routinely double teamed and even sometimes triple teamed so you would expect those playing next to him to have better results statistically, so I am a little cautious about attributing so much of DPs stats purely to his talent level. Paying all 4 DL when there are so many other holes to fill, not to mention up coming contracts for KC and others, doesn't seem like a good use of resources. I still can't get on board with the idea of trading Sweat or Young so the logical move would be to franchise Payne as a precursor to trading him. All of the talk about getting a deal done might just be setting the table about wanting to keep him to elevate his value in a trade. They were talking about trading him through last offseason up to the trade deadline but didn't receive the offers that made it worth it. Any return from a trade could be used to get another young DT in the draft, even if it is a 3rd compensatory pick. I think the arrival of Ridgeway may have influenced the path they take, I just cant see the value in paying him $18-20m apy .