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skinsfanthru&thru 07-08-2005 04:59 PM

Hughes Leaving
thought u wizard fans would want to know.


SmootSmack 07-08-2005 06:41 PM

Re: Hughes Leaving
Guess this is why a lot of people said we should have taken a guard in the draft. Maybe it was just a career year for Hughes and true he's not the greatest shooter, but he was a great defender, did all the little things and we were starting to develop something with Hughes, Arenas and Jamison. Seems like the initial offer was too low.

Moving forward though what do the Wizards do now? Here are some possibilites:

Juan Dixon: First off there is no guarantee that he'll stay. Secondly he serves the team better as a sparkplug off the bench.

Jarvis Hayes: This is a possibility, it will give us a lot of size. That's for sure

Bobby Simmons: Solid player, would get plenty of good looks with Arenas and Jamison drawing most of the attention, but seems more suited to play small forward

Cuttino Mobley: Possible, but doesn't seem to be to willing to be a third option offensively. And his defense is rather ordinry

Joe Johnson: If we weren't going to pay for Hughes, we're not paying for JJ

Latrell Sprewell: Too expensive and too old

Michael Finley: Running on empty practically

Trade Kwame for a shooting guard, first name that comes to mind is Bonzi Wells

I'd seriously consider going after one of the young shooting guards like Maurice Evans (Kings), or DerMarr Johnson (Nuggets). Or even Keith Bogans. I wouldn't mind it if the Wizards found a diamond in the rough free agent

Lots of options, glad I don't have to be the one to make the decision

CooleyAsCanBe 07-08-2005 07:21 PM

Re: Hughes Leaving
I am disappiointed to see Larry go. Now we'll see if Grunfeld can earn his salary again like he did last year when he dumped Laettner and Stack for Jamison. I'm hoping for a sign and trade as well, but that will leave us just as weak down low. That is unless my boy John Peter Ramos, aka "the Latino Muersan" tears it up. hahaha

itvnetop 07-08-2005 11:23 PM

Re: Hughes Leaving
now that simmons is a buck, we may have to trade kwame for marquis daniels if we go that route.

or we can sign antonio daniels and move gil to the 2. bite the bullet (no pun intended) for next season and go for amare in two years.

mooby 07-09-2005 01:24 AM

Re: Hughes Leaving
i would trade for paul pierce. let him replace hughes. get rid of kwame in the trade too.

SmootSmack 07-13-2005 01:01 PM

Re: Hughes Leaving
Have you guys heard the latest rumor? Kwame for Caron, the Lakers 1st pick in 2006 (from Miami), and another player (Devean George, Vlade Divac or Chucky Atkins). That's insane. When you think about the fact that the Lakers traded Shaq for Brian Grant, Lamar Odom, Butler and the pick, and now they plan on trading Butler and the pick and they're going to release Grant to make room for Kwame?! They must see something in Kwame that others don't.

Of course, that's the bigget drawback to the deal. That there isn't much upside to the players we would get (except the draft pick) but at least you know what you're getting. With Kwame he's still such a mystery and who knows if he will ever meet his potential.

Getting George would be a waste. I don't like that idea. Vlade wouldn't play here, he's already said as much. But we could buy out his contract and have some extra cap room. I would love to get Chucky Atkins. A legit point guard who can bury the 3 on a consistent basis. Then you could have Arenas at the 2, and Chucky playing the point. Granted I still start Arenas at point but at least now you have a solid backup who can hit the open jumper. I don't think Blake's jump shot is consistent enough. Speaking of Blake, if he doesn't want to stay here then I wouldn't be opposed to including him in the Kwame for Caron deal. Blake could definitely run Phil's triangle offense.

And as for Caron, I probably wouldn't start him. I'd keep Jeffries as the starter for defensive purposes and then I'd bring Caron off the bench for insant offense. Especially if Hayes is going to start at SG, Butler could be our 6th man.

Redskins_P 07-13-2005 01:22 PM

Re: Hughes Leaving
I wonder how Phil Jackson will handle Kwame (if the deal is struck)? Maybe the change of scenary and the presence of Phil will help Kwame develop into the player he was supposed to be. He would definitely fit that triangle offense. But could he co-exist with Kobe? Can anyone co-exist with Kobe?

The west coast lifestyle could also help Kwame.....since he's so laid back (especially on the basketball court).

Redskins_P 07-13-2005 01:32 PM

Re: Hughes Leaving
As for Larry Hughes, it hurts to lose one of "core" guys but at the same time he doesn't deserve more money than Gilbert Arenas. Lets not forget that Hughes is injury-prone (ankle, wrist, thumb). He's been in the league for 7 years and has only played one full season. He averages 50-60 games a season.

I'm not trying to knock him though. He's one of my favorite players and I would've loved to keep him, but he deserved to get paid. It just wasn't happening in DC. Is the grass greener in Cleveland? Who knows? He's playing next to Lebron, and they re-signed Illgauskus (sp), so it seems like they're trying to surround Lebron with quality players.

I wish Larry nothing but the best.

And as for his replacement...........are you kidding me? We have Ernie Grunfeld....I'm sure he's on the phone right now working up a nice deal. Wow. I never thought I'd say that about any GM for the Wizards.

Big C 07-13-2005 02:00 PM

Re: Hughes Leaving
if we got caron id think hed play the 2, which he can do at 6-7. donyell marshall is interested in going to the wizards according to the washington times. would be a good pickup

SmootSmack 07-13-2005 02:05 PM

Re: Hughes Leaving
I agree about Hughes. He just isn't worth $12 million+ a year. First of all, as has been mentioned already, in seven seasons he's only played one full season. He doesn't pass on the fast break. He's a terrible outside shooter and to say he's "defensive minded" is a bit misleading. He gets a lot of steals because he gambles a lot but he's not a "shut-down defender" per se. And what happened to Hughes saying all season long he wanted to stay in Washington and would give them the first chance?

Now maybe the Wizards' first offer was too low, who knows. But more than anything the Wizards were victims of the Cavs desperation. After swinging for and missing on Ray Allen and Michael Redd the Cavs new ownership had to make a big move so they went after the biggest name out there. Does that sound like any other ownership group we know? Paging Mr. Snyder. But he's not necesarrily going to make the Cavs better. When Lebron draws the double team and kicks it out for the 3-pointer, Hughes isn't nearly as good an option as Redd or Allen...or Cuttino Mobley for that matter. The Cavs needed a shooting guard who can shoot and they didn't get him. Instead the new owners got desperate and the Wizards became the immediate victims, but long term we might actually be better off.

I'm not trying to knock Hughes, because he was an integral part of the best team in decades here. However, I think if we were to let any of the big three go Hughes is the loss that would least hurt us. We did play fairly decently, after all, while he was hurt this year. Is Hughes hitting his peak or did he just happen to have a great year last year because his contract was up...or is he a product of Eddie Jordan's system. We'll have to wait for 2006 to find out.

By the way, I heard that the Lakers have hired Kobe's dad as an assistant coach.

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