Brees and Rivers and the Market for Ramsey

amorentz · 01-03-2006, 02:44 PM

Does anyone else think that the Brees injury could increase the market for Ramsey a bit? Now I think there is no way SD can get rid of either guy (Brees coming off major surgery is now (a) bad trade value and (b) too risky to go an entire season with after trading Rivers)...they are going to have to franchise Brees again and see how he heals. I really feel for the guy, to be honest...

At the same time, this takes arguably the hottest QB off the market. Now Ramsey seems like the best young guy on the trade market.

Chris Mortensen said he thought the Skins could get a 3rd or possibly 2nd rounder for Ramsey a couple weeks ago, so Im hoping that Brees/Rivers coming off the market pushes that 3rd/2nd to a solid 2nd round pick.

Thoughts?

dmek25 · 01-03-2006, 02:49 PM

i dont know enough about john abrahams to want him on our team.that seems to be the talk.the jets contact talks with him are nill right now.if he can play ,this would seem a better trade than an unproven second rounder

firstdown · 01-03-2006, 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by amorentz

Does anyone else think that the Brees injury could increase the market for Ramsey a bit? Now I think there is no way SD can get rid of either guy (Brees coming off major surgery is now (a) bad trade value and (b) too risky to go an entire season with after trading Rivers)...they are going to have to franchise Brees again and see how he heals. I really feel for the guy, to be honest...

At the same time, this takes arguably the hottest QB off the market. Now Ramsey seems like the best young guy on the trade market.

Chris Mortensen said he thought the Skins could get a 3rd or possibly 2nd rounder for Ramsey a couple weeks ago, so Im hoping that Brees/Rivers coming off the market pushes that 3rd/2nd to a solid 2nd round pick.

Thoughts?

That was a nasty looking play where Brees got injured. Don't be so fast to think Ramsey will be gone next year. His cap hit is not to bad and Gibbs likes two QB's with exp. and I think Ramsey is learning alot watching Brunell.

hooskins · 01-03-2006, 02:50 PM

I do not know if Ramsey would be a good starter at SD, I guess that is because I am not a huge Ramsey fan, but we will see.

amorentz · 01-03-2006, 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by hooskins

I do not know if Ramsey would be a good starter at SD, I guess that is because I am not a huge Ramsey fan, but we will see.

No, I wasnt suggesting that he be the starter there, just that the market for him might pick up a bit because none of the SD QBs are going to be on the market.

Mattyk · 01-03-2006, 03:39 PM

Word is the Chargers weren't going to part with Rivers even before Brees' injury unless they were to receive a killer offer.

This could help the market for Ramsey, but I don't think it will change things much.

Who knows, as firstdown said Ramsey could be back next year. We'll have to wait and see.

Hog1 · 01-03-2006, 03:49 PM

Look at the Pool of available QB's?????????? it's like the pool of PROVEN, GOOD, available head coach's. It doesn't exist. It is a SELLERS market. All demand, and very little supply. It can't get much better for us if we choose to deal him.

CrazyCanuck · 01-03-2006, 03:50 PM

Ramsey could be back next year. A lot will depend on Campbell's readiness and the market for PR. There's no way I see us simply giving Ramsey away. Gibbs already has QB paranoia so I don't see Ramsey moving unless we can find a really good deal.

12thMan · 01-03-2006, 04:15 PM

I've thought every since the Giants game that Gibbs would be very, very reluctant to let Ramsey go. It would have to be a really sweet deal.

Paintrain · 01-03-2006, 04:26 PM

Well I think the Saints getting the #2 pick hurts us because that was a perfect sutuation to send Ramsey to for a 2nd round pick but looking around the league I only see a few teams in need of a starting QB..

Arizona, though they will probably go after Culpepper in a trade
Detroit, Harrington is probably done
KC as a succesor to Trent Green
Minnesota if they deal Culpepper

memphisskin · 01-03-2006, 04:31 PM

Campbell is going to play at some point, might as well get what we can from Ramsey in a trade. Abraham seems too good to be true, adding a 10+ sack guy to our defensive line rotation makes put our defense over the top. Ramsey is not the guy here, so we may as well get something of value in return from him. I agree that he's as immobile as Bledsoe.

celts32 · 01-03-2006, 05:01 PM

Once the season ends Ramsey will make public his desire to move on. He will not be happy being #2 again next year and as Gibbs proved with LC last year when a player makes noise they will be sent packing. Ramsey was a good soldier this year when he could have rocked the boat...he deserves his chance to move on ad try and start elsewhere. Some team needs to come up with some trade offeres though...he will not just be given away.

diehardskin2982 · 01-03-2006, 05:16 PM

with the Saints in the #2 spot they will either take Lienarht or Young. If they hire Mike Martz they will get Leinarht. I wanted to trade for Darren Howard. But if the Abraham for Ramsey trade goes through, I'd take it in a heart beat. My question is what will they do with Arrington?

skinsttw · 01-03-2006, 10:41 PM

Maybe trade LA for a decent cornerback?

Redskins8588 · 01-04-2006, 06:32 AM

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Originally Posted by offiss

Question to everyone who thinks Ramsey is going to be traded, who's going to backup Brunell? [not Campbell] Do we need another QB to come in and spend a year learning Gibbs offense? Who will then have to play if Brunell goes down. Ramsey is very reasonable I do not trade him for less than a #1. and even then I believe his value to us is worth more than what a #1 might bring back.

I have to agree with you, and if I remember right, Joe Gibbs has said in the past that the most important position is the starting QB, the second most important position is the backup QB. So that makes me think that we just keep Ramsey atleast for 1 more year.

01-03-2006, 02:50 PM	#4
hooskins Most Interesting Man in the World Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Chantilly, VA Age: 25 Posts: 8,557	Re: Brees and Rivers and the Market for Ramsey I do not know if Ramsey would be a good starter at SD, I guess that is because I am not a huge Ramsey fan, but we will see. __________________ Vacancy

01-03-2006, 03:39 PM	#6
Mattyk ‎\m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 40 Posts: 72,693	Re: Brees and Rivers and the Market for Ramsey Word is the Chargers weren't going to part with Rivers even before Brees' injury unless they were to receive a killer offer. This could help the market for Ramsey, but I don't think it will change things much. Who knows, as firstdown said Ramsey could be back next year. We'll have to wait and see. __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

01-03-2006, 03:49 PM	#7
Hog1 Quietly Dominating the East Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Naples, Florida Posts: 8,376	Re: Brees and Rivers and the Market for Ramsey Look at the Pool of available QB's?????????? it's like the pool of PROVEN, GOOD, available head coach's. It doesn't exist. It is a SELLERS market. All demand, and very little supply. It can't get much better for us if we choose to deal him. __________________ Goodbye Sean..........Vaya Con Dios thankyou Joe....... Win! Always win! By fair means or foul, by soft words and hard deeds... by treachery, by cunning, by malpractice... but always win--Edward Teach

01-03-2006, 03:50 PM	#8
CrazyCanuck NFC East Champs Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 1,792	Re: Brees and Rivers and the Market for Ramsey Ramsey could be back next year. A lot will depend on Campbell's readiness and the market for PR. There's no way I see us simply giving Ramsey away. Gibbs already has QB paranoia so I don't see Ramsey moving unless we can find a really good deal.

01-03-2006, 04:15 PM	#9
12thMan MVP Join Date: May 2005 Location: washington, D.C. Posts: 11,363	Re: Brees and Rivers and the Market for Ramsey I've thought every since the Giants game that Gibbs would be very, very reluctant to let Ramsey go. It would have to be a really sweet deal.

01-03-2006, 02:44 PM	#1
amorentz Special Teams Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Washington, DC Age: 33 Posts: 368	Brees and Rivers and the Market for Ramsey Does anyone else think that the Brees injury could increase the market for Ramsey a bit? Now I think there is no way SD can get rid of either guy (Brees coming off major surgery is now (a) bad trade value and (b) too risky to go an entire season with after trading Rivers)...they are going to have to franchise Brees again and see how he heals. I really feel for the guy, to be honest... At the same time, this takes arguably the hottest QB off the market. Now Ramsey seems like the best young guy on the trade market. Chris Mortensen said he thought the Skins could get a 3rd or possibly 2nd rounder for Ramsey a couple weeks ago, so Im hoping that Brees/Rivers coming off the market pushes that 3rd/2nd to a solid 2nd round pick. Thoughts?

01-03-2006, 02:49 PM	#2
dmek25 MVP Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: lancaster,pa Age: 51 Posts: 10,440	Re: Brees and Rivers and the Market for Ramsey i dont know enough about john abrahams to want him on our team.that seems to be the talk.the jets contact talks with him are nill right now.if he can play ,this would seem a better trade than an unproven second rounder

01-03-2006, 04:26 PM	#10
Paintrain Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Ft. Lauderdale, FL Age: 42 Posts: 4,529	Re: Brees and Rivers and the Market for Ramsey Well I think the Saints getting the #2 pick hurts us because that was a perfect sutuation to send Ramsey to for a 2nd round pick but looking around the league I only see a few teams in need of a starting QB.. Arizona, though they will probably go after Culpepper in a trade Detroit, Harrington is probably done KC as a succesor to Trent Green Minnesota if they deal Culpepper __________________ No Pressure-No Diamonds! Go Catch Your Dreams!

01-03-2006, 04:31 PM	#11
memphisskin Impact Rookie Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 41 Posts: 958	Re: Brees and Rivers and the Market for Ramsey Campbell is going to play at some point, might as well get what we can from Ramsey in a trade. Abraham seems too good to be true, adding a 10+ sack guy to our defensive line rotation makes put our defense over the top. Ramsey is not the guy here, so we may as well get something of value in return from him. I agree that he's as immobile as Bledsoe.

01-03-2006, 05:01 PM	#12
celts32 Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Hackettstown NJ Age: 41 Posts: 2,643	Re: Brees and Rivers and the Market for Ramsey Once the season ends Ramsey will make public his desire to move on. He will not be happy being #2 again next year and as Gibbs proved with LC last year when a player makes noise they will be sent packing. Ramsey was a good soldier this year when he could have rocked the boat...he deserves his chance to move on ad try and start elsewhere. Some team needs to come up with some trade offeres though...he will not just be given away. __________________ Section 115 Row 23 “Goal line, goal line. I-left, tight wing, 70 chip on white.” http://victorybeer.com/

01-03-2006, 05:16 PM	#13
diehardskin2982 What will Shanny do this offseason? Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 2,924	Re: Brees and Rivers and the Market for Ramsey with the Saints in the #2 spot they will either take Lienarht or Young. If they hire Mike Martz they will get Leinarht. I wanted to trade for Darren Howard. But if the Abraham for Ramsey trade goes through, I'd take it in a heart beat. My question is what will they do with Arrington? __________________ Let's win games now...PLEASE

01-03-2006, 10:41 PM	#14
skinsttw Special Teams Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Richmond, VA Posts: 174	Re: Brees and Rivers and the Market for Ramsey Maybe trade LA for a decent cornerback? __________________ Go skins!

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