Who's afraid of a slow start by our passing game?

gortiz · 01-04-2006, 01:23 PM

I'm sure if our passing game comes out like they did against Philly, we are done. Not sure why, but when the skins/Brunell start off slow, we stay slow and out of sync FOR THE ENTIRE GAME. It seems we never dig our selves out of sluggish starts by the passing game. As important as the running game is, I really think the skins need to come out throwing and establsh the passing game ...

I don't think Brunell was that hurt either, I just think that when he is off, he stays off ... I hope we come out slinging...

FirstandTen · 01-04-2006, 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by gortiz

I'm sure if our passing game comes out like they did against Philly, we are done. Not sure why, but when the skins/Brunell start off slow, we stay slow and out of sync FOR THE ENTIRE GAME. It seems we never dig our selves out of sluggish starts by the passing game. As important as the running game is, I really think the skins need to come out throwing and establsh the passing game ...

I don't think Brunell was that hurt either, I just think that when he is off, he stays off ... I hope we come out slinging...

I think well coming our running the ball. Last time we played them Portis had almost 100 yards in the first half.

irish · 01-04-2006, 01:43 PM

The skins dont need to get off to a rip-roaring start like WVU did vs UGA (although it would be nice) but they better get going faster than they did vs Philthy.

Schneed10 · 01-04-2006, 01:50 PM

The problem against Philly was Brunell's inaccuracy. Our D had to dig us out of that hole by coming up with 6 turnovers. We definitely need more accuracy from Brunell this time, bad knee or not.

dmek25 · 01-04-2006, 01:52 PM

i agree that he needs to be more accurate but one thing mark brunell has done this year as compared to last is when he misses,its always in a good spot meaning that if a redskin player doesnt catch it no one does.it seemed like last year every other pass was borderline being intercepted

gortiz · 01-04-2006, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by dmek25

i agree that he needs to be more accurate but one thing mark brunell has done this year as compared to last is when he misses,its always in a good spot meaning that if a redskin player doesnt catch it no one does.it seemed like last year every other pass was borderline being intercepted

Yeah, I agree, throwing 10 picks in 16 games is damn good ...

Beemnseven · 01-04-2006, 02:16 PM

Philly did a good job of blanketing Chris Cooley and Robert Royal through the whole game. Those play-action roll-outs just didn't fool anyone. It seemed like the Eagles coaches came in with the attitude that, if they lost, it wasn't going to be because of Chris Cooley.

I still think that if the Skins had another viable wideout threat other than Santana Moss, this offense would be unstoppable. Unfortunately, neither Thrash and especially Taylor Jacobs offer that kind of complimentary role.

Those six forced turnovers were what saved us against Philly.

In Tampa on Saturday, they must run the ball effectively, and with authority -- meaning 25 to 30 carries for Portis and 12-15 for Betts. If that kind of rushing attack is established, Brunell will be much more productive.

Mattyk · 01-04-2006, 02:18 PM

With how inaccurate Brunell was, I think his knee was hurting more than he let on. You could see he wasn't stepping in to his throws.

Hopefully he's closer to 100% this week or else we're in trouble.

Schneed10 · 01-04-2006, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk72

With how inaccurate Brunell was, I think his knee was hurting more than he let on. You could see he wasn't stepping in to his throws.

Hopefully he's closer to 100% this week or else we're in trouble.

On that note, I'd hope Gibbs is prepared to plug Ramsey in there if Brunell looks troubled again. Brunell had a horrible season last year, and the reason given by Gibbs was the hamstring injury. Last week his knee was bothering him, couldn't step into throws, and went 9 for 25.

I hope to the good Lord that Brunell is 100%, because he's better than Ramsey by a mile. But a hurt Brunell is not good, as shown by recent history. If Brunell is still hobbled, we're better off with Ramsey, because a Brunell with a bad leg is a Brunell with a very low completion %.

In the playoffs, you gotta be prepared to win or go home. I hope Joe keeps a close eye on Brunell as the game begins.

hooskins · 01-04-2006, 02:57 PM

You can look at it two ways, either run alot to open up the pass, or pass to open up the run. We usually run to open the pass.

Daseal · 01-04-2006, 02:58 PM

I think we need to come out slinging. Listening to Ronde Barber talk on Sirrius last night he didn't once mention stopping Santana Moss. Both Tiki and Ronde said Portis is an amazing player and even said first time Giants played they knocked him out of the game and were able to run away.

I really think we need to attack through the air early to get their gameplan back on it's heels. I'm not saying keep that up, but give them a quick dose.

skinsguy · 01-04-2006, 03:10 PM

We need to keep doing what has brought us here. Run the football down their throats! That's why guys like Moss and Cooley have been so successful...especially the last few weeks.

FRPLG · 01-04-2006, 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by gortiz

I don't think Brunell was that hurt either, I just think that when he is off, he stays off ... I hope we come out slinging...

He was limping the entire game. I think he was hurt enough that it affected his accuracy. Hopefully he'll be better this week.

HTTR · 01-04-2006, 03:23 PM

I do get nervous when Brunell and his receivers start out of rhythm . . . they tend to stay that way for the whole game (or, in the case of last year, the whole season). HOWEVER, look at Dallas #1 and you realize that if our D keeps the game close, anything can happen.

My question is, can Gibbs expand the playbook now that we're in the playoffs? The Eagles pretty much shut down our bread-and-butter plays (or tried, in the case of Portis pounding), and we had nothing new to show them. Will this be the case in Tampa?

dmek25 · 01-04-2006, 03:36 PM

hey hess,welcome!whats up with the small print?

01-04-2006, 01:43 PM	#3
irish Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 3,328	Re: who's afraid of a slow start by our passing game? The skins dont need to get off to a rip-roaring start like WVU did vs UGA (although it would be nice) but they better get going faster than they did vs Philthy.

01-04-2006, 01:50 PM	#4
Schneed10 RG Glee Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Newtown Square, PA Age: 33 Posts: 7,892	Re: who's afraid of a slow start by our passing game? The problem against Philly was Brunell's inaccuracy. Our D had to dig us out of that hole by coming up with 6 turnovers. We definitely need more accuracy from Brunell this time, bad knee or not.

01-04-2006, 01:52 PM	#5
dmek25 MVP Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: lancaster,pa Age: 51 Posts: 10,438	Re: who's afraid of a slow start by our passing game? i agree that he needs to be more accurate but one thing mark brunell has done this year as compared to last is when he misses,its always in a good spot meaning that if a redskin player doesnt catch it no one does.it seemed like last year every other pass was borderline being intercepted

01-04-2006, 02:16 PM	#7
Beemnseven Fighting off The Crazies Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Virginia Beach Age: 39 Posts: 5,280	Re: who's afraid of a slow start by our passing game? Philly did a good job of blanketing Chris Cooley and Robert Royal through the whole game. Those play-action roll-outs just didn't fool anyone. It seemed like the Eagles coaches came in with the attitude that, if they lost, it wasn't going to be because of Chris Cooley. I still think that if the Skins had another viable wideout threat other than Santana Moss, this offense would be unstoppable. Unfortunately, neither Thrash and especially Taylor Jacobs offer that kind of complimentary role. Those six forced turnovers were what saved us against Philly. In Tampa on Saturday, they must run the ball effectively, and with authority -- meaning 25 to 30 carries for Portis and 12-15 for Betts. If that kind of rushing attack is established, Brunell will be much more productive.

01-04-2006, 02:18 PM	#8
Mattyk ‎\m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 40 Posts: 72,652	Re: who's afraid of a slow start by our passing game? With how inaccurate Brunell was, I think his knee was hurting more than he let on. You could see he wasn't stepping in to his throws. Hopefully he's closer to 100% this week or else we're in trouble. __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

01-04-2006, 01:23 PM	#1
gortiz Special Teams Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 498	Who's afraid of a slow start by our passing game? I'm sure if our passing game comes out like they did against Philly, we are done. Not sure why, but when the skins/Brunell start off slow, we stay slow and out of sync FOR THE ENTIRE GAME. It seems we never dig our selves out of sluggish starts by the passing game. As important as the running game is, I really think the skins need to come out throwing and establsh the passing game ... I don't think Brunell was that hurt either, I just think that when he is off, he stays off ... I hope we come out slinging... __________________ "If people are underestimating us," Jansen said, "there will be a rude awakening this year."

01-04-2006, 02:57 PM	#10
hooskins Most Interesting Man in the World Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Chantilly, VA Age: 25 Posts: 8,557	Re: who's afraid of a slow start by our passing game? You can look at it two ways, either run alot to open up the pass, or pass to open up the run. We usually run to open the pass. __________________ Vacancy

01-04-2006, 02:58 PM	#11
Daseal Puppy Kicker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arlington, Virginia Age: 30 Posts: 8,055	Re: who's afraid of a slow start by our passing game? I think we need to come out slinging. Listening to Ronde Barber talk on Sirrius last night he didn't once mention stopping Santana Moss. Both Tiki and Ronde said Portis is an amazing player and even said first time Giants played they knocked him out of the game and were able to run away. I really think we need to attack through the air early to get their gameplan back on it's heels. I'm not saying keep that up, but give them a quick dose. __________________ Best. Player. Available.

01-04-2006, 03:10 PM	#12
skinsguy Pro Bowl Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Greensboro, North Carolina Posts: 5,998	Re: who's afraid of a slow start by our passing game? We need to keep doing what has brought us here. Run the football down their throats! That's why guys like Moss and Cooley have been so successful...especially the last few weeks. __________________ Not the same Skinsguy that posts on ES.

01-04-2006, 03:23 PM	#14
HTTR Camp Scrub Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 52	Re: who's afraid of a slow start by our passing game? I do get nervous when Brunell and his receivers start out of rhythm . . . they tend to stay that way for the whole game (or, in the case of last year, the whole season). HOWEVER, look at Dallas #1 and you realize that if our D keeps the game close, anything can happen. My question is, can Gibbs expand the playbook now that we're in the playoffs? The Eagles pretty much shut down our bread-and-butter plays (or tried, in the case of Portis pounding), and we had nothing new to show them. Will this be the case in Tampa? __________________ ____________________________________________ I have spoken to many, many Indian chiefs who say they have no objection whatsoever to the nickname. . . The name of the Redskins will remain the Redskins. — Jack Kent Cooke, March 1994.

01-04-2006, 03:36 PM	#15
dmek25 MVP Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: lancaster,pa Age: 51 Posts: 10,438	Re: who's afraid of a slow start by our passing game? hey hess,welcome!whats up with the small print?

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