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Old 01-04-2006, 03:11 PM   #1
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Takeaway/Giveaway ratio

Remember at one point this year we were something like -11?

We ended up being +1 for the season, I was amazed when I saw that considering how deep in the hole we started off in.
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Old 01-04-2006, 03:13 PM   #2
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And how we ended up winning 5 games in a row shows you how important that turnover ratio really is.
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Old 01-04-2006, 03:15 PM   #3
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Matty, The Skins turnovers did end up coming in bunches at the end of the year. I just hope they come in bunches for the next several weeks!
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Old 01-04-2006, 03:21 PM   #4
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Re: Takeaway/Giveaway ratio

I had no idea we'd closed that gap. That's unbelievable.

We were -13 after week 11 (the Oakland game). We ended at +1, making up the difference in six games.
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Old 01-04-2006, 03:36 PM   #5
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That's the impact of a healthy defensive line with Salave'a and Griffin. Those DTs attract a lot more attention, and Daniels has had an easier run to the QB because of it. Wynn has also stepped up his play. We're getting to the QB with 4 guys, keeping more LBs back in coverage. No wonder we're coming down with those tipped balls at the line of scrimmage, and intercepting the hurried throws by the QBs. There are actually LBs sitting in some zones now.

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Old 01-04-2006, 03:36 PM   #6
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D Line needs to come up big again against the mediocre Tampa O-Line!
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Old 01-04-2006, 03:38 PM   #7
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while im not sold on our defensive ends(although daniels is really coming on)i love both of our d tackles.both very good against the run and c griff if a very good pass rusher with good push up the middle
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That was one of my biggest concerns a few weeks ago. Like Schneed said, it's great to get the QB with 4-guys! It's 8 million well spent
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Old 01-04-2006, 03:39 PM   #9
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+14 in six games. Wish we'd done that all year. We'd have been +37. That'd been nice. Maybe 14-2?
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Old 01-04-2006, 03:45 PM   #10
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Re: Takeaway/Giveaway ratio

Been discussing this on the Skins newsgroup. Fumbles tend to balance out as they are more of a random factor (how the ball bounces as it were).

INT's on the other hand are a product of good coverage and QB pressure. That has made a difference in the last few weeks, although the fumbles bouncing our way may also have an emotional/awareness element to them.
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Old 01-04-2006, 03:55 PM   #11
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Been discussing this on the Skins newsgroup. Fumbles tend to balance out as they are more of a random factor (how the ball bounces as it were).

INT's on the other hand are a product of good coverage and QB pressure. That has made a difference in the last few weeks, although the fumbles bouncing our way may also have an emotional/awareness element to them.
I have to disagree with your statement that fumbles tend to balance out. I do agree that you have no controll of which way the ball will go. If you have players attacking the ball and playing out the play your average will go up with more guys in position to make the play. Our D has done a good job in the second half of the season of getting the ball lose and then haven players in position to fall on it.
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Old 01-04-2006, 04:12 PM   #12
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Been discussing this on the Skins newsgroup. Fumbles tend to balance out as they are more of a random factor (how the ball bounces as it were).

INT's on the other hand are a product of good coverage and QB pressure. That has made a difference in the last few weeks, although the fumbles bouncing our way may also have an emotional/awareness element to them.
I would also disagree about fumbles. Being that when a player has the ball defensive players should be in general swarming towards while the other offensive players not I believe the more fumbles you cause the more the defense will end up recovering. The defense has the player advantage usually in fumble situations so it stands to reason that over the long haul defenses recover more fumbles than offenses. This year was a particularly bad year for us as it seemed early on we weren't swarming the ball carrier like we needed to and therefore we weren't gaining our player advantage and lessened our opportunities to recover the fumbles. Our swarming ahs increased and our recovered fumbles has gotten better. I don't fumbles even out when a defense is playign as it is suppose to.
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Old 01-04-2006, 04:30 PM   #13
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I had no idea we'd closed that gap. That's unbelievable.

We were -13 after week 11 (the Oakland game). We ended at +1, making up the difference in six games.
Driving to the Oakland game, I said to my buddy - "We are currently -11 in the turnover ratio, if we win the turnover battle today and end up even for the year, we will win the division." I was pretty damn close!
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I would also disagree about fumbles. Being that when a player has the ball defensive players should be in general swarming towards while the other offensive players not I believe the more fumbles you cause the more the defense will end up recovering. The defense has the player advantage usually in fumble situations so it stands to reason that over the long haul defenses recover more fumbles than offenses. This year was a particularly bad year for us as it seemed early on we weren't swarming the ball carrier like we needed to and therefore we weren't gaining our player advantage and lessened our opportunities to recover the fumbles. Our swarming ahs increased and our recovered fumbles has gotten better. I don't fumbles even out when a defense is playign as it is suppose to.
The only problem that I realy noticed at the beginning of the year is that our player where there they just were not looking for the turnovers. It seemed that the ball was on the groung and before one of our players noticed it the offense already was making a play for it. Now it seems we are looking for the ball to come out and when it does we are going after it.
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Old 01-04-2006, 05:03 PM   #15
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I really felt and have seen other people her note it here as well as some experts saying they simply weren't able to swarm as much because of a weaker secondary and some inexperience in the LBs. When those things traightened out and our line started getting healthy the swarming commenced. Go back and compare if you have a chance and I think you'll agree.
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